Coach Fages and the coaching group

[T Rick]

Set shot goal kicking is a skill and so is tackling. I see almost unlimited upside on both fronts and very negligible downside.

A very shrewd business decision by Dew to hold off till midseason.

Why?

 

[Grasshopper17]

Why?

Because any improvement can be attributed to him while there's virtually no risk of us regressing further.

(Surely...)

 

[Section 5]

Because any improvement can be attributed to him while there's virtually no risk of us regressing further.

(Surely...)

I am not sure the bolded would be correct.
We only have to get back to 2023 form to have a big improvement on this year.
Unless he is a fixer of minds and effort it really is up to the players to get back on track.

I am not saying a different voice at training won't help but that is still yet to play out.
He is only at training 1 day a week from what i read.

 

[Gadzorks]

Because any improvement can be attributed to him while there's virtually no risk of us regressing further.

(Surely...)

Yeah, but if that was a shrewd decision it meant he knew we were going to struggle.

The expectation was we were going to start strong which meant waiting till mid season would have been a poor decision cause we could regress.

 

[BuntonRules]

Succession plan or not, Stewie Dew in the box next year will be a blessing. As Paul Kelly wrote, "from little things, big things grow ".

 

[Maboo]

Succession plan or not, Stewie Dew in the box next year will be a blessing. As Paul Kelly wrote, "from little things, big things grow ".

I think Stewie has already climbed that mountain

 

[martinson]

I'm not privy to what actually goes on so this is just my impression but Fages spent all those years next to Clarko in the box and it seemed to work well.

If Stewie or someone of that ilk was there next to Fages you'd think that would help.

Maybe Fages needs help but just won't admit it or is trying to save money. The game's become more complex than it's ever been , it's easy to miss what's staring you in the face if you don't have someone to bounce things off.

 

[BuntonRules]

I think Stewie has already climbed that mountain

That is why I said plan or not. Stewie doing a Leppa would be the bomb.

 

[Nuggo]

Before going to the Suns Stewie was very highly rated.

 

[dlanod]

Before going to the Suns Stewie was very highly rated.

Highest paid assistant coach at the Swans because they didn't want him poached. He even knocked back a few head coaching interviews because he didn't think it was the right/good situation.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Highest paid assistant coach at the Swans because they didn't want him poached. He even knocked back a few head coaching interviews because he didn't think it was the right/good situation.

Including us IIRC or he pulled out of the process

 

[Macca180]

Something has to give.

 

[Happy_Neale]

Including us IIRC or he pulled out of the process

Wasn’t there a few that withdrew because they could sense it was definitely Fagans role?

 

[Elixuh]

You wonder what’s going on at this club and then you see the coaches are getting the boys to practice the wrong sport. Makes me sick what’s happening right now.

 

[Nathan Barley]

You wonder what’s going on at this club and then you see the coaches are getting the boys to practice the wrong sport. Makes me sick what’s happening right now.

I think that's tackling practice

 

[JasRulz63]

You wonder what’s going on at this club and then you see the coaches are getting the boys to practice the wrong sport. Makes me sick what’s happening right now.

Evidently preparing ourselves to play the Bulldogs and their "quick hands". One of the best, Libba, is back this week too.

 

[Dalions]

You wonder what’s going on at this club and then you see the coaches are getting the boys to practice the wrong sport. Makes me sick what’s happening right now.

Whatever you do boys.
DO NOT HAVE ANY FUN!

 

[Viceregal]

Every failed head coach who wasn't a retread was a fantastic assistant coach which is why they got a chance in the big chair in the first place.

Some people just make great assist coaches and the ones who stepped higher and came back down at least aren't overly focused on how to get promoted!

 

[Nunez]

Every failed head coach who wasn't a retread was a fantastic assistant coach which is why they got a chance in the big chair in the first place.

Some people just make great assist coaches and the ones who stepped higher and came back down at least aren't overly focused on how to get promoted!

Dew did a fairly good job at the Suns though and is a big part of the reason they retained players, got an identity and aren't a basket case. Only lost his job because of Dimma being keen.

 

[BRAB]

Must admit, I was gobsmacked when I read this:



I’ve deadset thought our last two games where we failed to get the full eight points were must-win so comments like this automatically give the players an out who let’s be honest, regularly look for outs and excuses.

Perhaps Fagan has conceded the season is over from a finals perspective which hasn’t been openly communicated to the fans because I honestly fail to see how if we lose this one that our season is still alive. If I’m being really honest, I don’t see how we make it from here and really did need the full eight points from those games but if this week wasn’t must-win then I don’t know what is; you tell me Fages.

Brisbane Lions confident addition of Stuart Dew to coaching staff will help the club’s younger players

‘He can help’: Lions poach former Gold Coast head coach

www.foxsports.com.au

Did Fagan actually say it wasn’t a must win? I feel like the journo was doing a bit of paraphrasing there right? It never really comes up in the longer quotes in the article.

“If you focus on the result, you play with too much fear inside you,” Fagan said.

“You’ve got to focus on the process, think the process is fearless, think about what you’ve got to do in every second of the game – that’s the best way to go.

“Yes, we are in a precarious position. We know that, but thinking about that’s not going to help. It’s just focusing in on what we need to do.”

Bit bizarre as surely they quote him fully if he insisted that it wasn’t a must win.

 

[braddsey]

Did Fagan actually say it wasn’t a must win? I feel like the journo was doing a bit of paraphrasing there right? It never really comes up in the longer quotes in the article.





Bit bizarre as surely they quote him fully if he insisted that it wasn’t a must win.

As head coach, what’s to gain from saying it’s a must win? I think that kind of thing is something for pundits, media, fans etc.
For the coach to say it, nothing to gain other than more pressure for the team, and failure if we lose.

 

[BuntonRules]

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/te...s/news-story/88f3add17ac5450e7411d062e3554a8d

“He reached out a few weeks ago. He’s keen to get back into the coaching thing, and we think he can help our younger players with their skill development and game knowledge,” Fagan said.

Best bit of the original article on Dew was that he was still living in Queensland with his family. Captive audience.

If Stewie is not on our coaching panel next year, I will eat my shorts.

 

[Nathan Barley]

Must admit, I was gobsmacked when I read this:



I’ve deadset thought our last two games where we failed to get the full eight points were must-win so comments like this automatically give the players an out who let’s be honest, regularly look for outs and excuses.

Perhaps Fagan has conceded the season is over from a finals perspective which hasn’t been openly communicated to the fans because I honestly fail to see how if we lose this one that our season is still alive. If I’m being really honest, I don’t see how we make it from here and really did need the full eight points from those games but if this week wasn’t must-win then I don’t know what is; you tell me Fages.

Brisbane Lions confident addition of Stuart Dew to coaching staff will help the club’s younger players

‘He can help’: Lions poach former Gold Coast head coach

www.foxsports.com.au

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[DERRINALPHIL]

Of course he will.

There’s obviously no one in the reserves that could replace him and the other chestnut that what would it serve him playing in the reserves.

I can’t recall a player in more recent times that has been mis managed more as player than Rayner and whilst a lot is on him personally, Fagan has got to take a lot of blame too. I have no doubt that once he moves to another team in another system that he’ll thrive and become the player that all here have wanted him to become because it ain’t happening here.

He will not be any better anywhere else as he is only a handy player. Not a ball level terrier but occasionally takes a pack mark. What is missed the myriad of missed pack marks. I cannot understand how posters still wait for the champion Ray-less to emerge

He dominated the juniors for a reason which did not translate to the seniors.

Brennan may turn out to be a better use of a pick!!!

it will depend what we can get for Cam.

 

[martinson]

He will not be any better anywhere else as he is only a handy player. Not a ball level terrier but occasionally takes a pack mark. What is missed the myriad of missed pack marks. I cannot understand how posters still wait for the champion Ray-less to emerge

He dominated the juniors for a reason which did not translate to the seniors.

Brennan may turn out to be a better use of a pick!!!

it will depend what we can get for Cam.

It's interesting that a lot of people still seem to have the same expectations that everyone had when we drafted him despite zero development in his skills or his tank.

In fact he was a bit better back then. But still dropping chest marks , struggling to pick it up and getting over nervous when the pressure's on.

Whether it's too late for the tough love I dunno.

Usually you throw someone in the middle when they're able to dominate somewhere else so to think someone like him would transition is fantasy land stuff to me , but this is where people's thinking is with him.