billzadogga
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whos better out of lance franklin and gary ablett
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G.ablett VS L.franklin
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G Ablett is ABSOLUTELY unstoppable
L Franklin is ALMOST unstoppable
I guess most of that comes down to the positions they play... Its easier to be an unstoppable mid than an unstoppable key forward.
Ablett for me at this stage... and will win the brownlow in a canter from Cooney
L Franklin is ALMOST unstoppable
I guess most of that comes down to the positions they play... Its easier to be an unstoppable mid than an unstoppable key forward.
Ablett for me at this stage... and will win the brownlow in a canter from Cooney
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i would say ablett fair easily
but if u can get a star forward any coach would go for that
but if u can get a star forward any coach would go for that
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hawks are always a chance as long as they have buddy . . . he can kick 6 goals in two quarters of football and win you a game. Whereas Gazza can have a massive game and still his team can lose or at least come close to 
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buddy not by much
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"Statistically" Ablett is better (save goals and marks) and more disciplined the Franklin. But either way it's hard to compare them both because they have different roles in the team. Ablett always kills the opposition in the midfield and Franklin in the forward line. They both have had one bad game. I'll probably have to go with ablett, mainly because ablett is good at every venue, where as Franklin has played some stinkers away.
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=10&pid1=230&tid2=11&pid2=1488
http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=10&pid1=230&tid2=11&pid2=1488
Ablett influences a game more than Buddy, when it's a 50-50 game and a ball winner needs to stand up, Ablett always does. But If Hawthorn are struggling then it's the midfield that's gonna have to turn the game, or the ball isn't gonna be delivered into the 50 for Franklin to kick a bag, is it?hawks are always a chance as long as they have buddy . . . he can kick 6 goals in two quarters of football and win you a game. Whereas Gazza can have a massive game and still his team can lose or at least come close to
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buddy destroys your team on the wing
Bock had him beat most of the night. Why do you think Franklin had to play a different role in the last quater.
Bock had him beat most of the night. Why do you think Franklin had to play a different role in the last quater.
Quick trade Bock for Buddy!
Gazza easily. Players with his size, height, speed and skill are much harder to find.
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hahaha yes i agree
Both the best hands down.
in terms of talent for what they do, i would have them equal.
In terms of pure value to a side, IE who will be a bigger match winner, you cant choose Gaz over Buddy. Gaz as brilliant as he is can take a game by the scruff of the neck but when Buddy is on his direct influence ends up on the scoreboard. Plus Buddy is usually playing on 2-3 opponents and this allows his teammates an easier ride as well. Gaz is great but i would always choose the good big man over the good small man.
in terms of talent for what they do, i would have them equal.
In terms of pure value to a side, IE who will be a bigger match winner, you cant choose Gaz over Buddy. Gaz as brilliant as he is can take a game by the scruff of the neck but when Buddy is on his direct influence ends up on the scoreboard. Plus Buddy is usually playing on 2-3 opponents and this allows his teammates an easier ride as well. Gaz is great but i would always choose the good big man over the good small man.
Ablett's a better player, but buddy's more valuable. if that makes any sense
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Watch Rd 10 Hawks V Bulldogs.
Franklin will never be a RICHO.
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i have them about even, if buddy improved his kicking and was kicking 5.1 instead of 1.5 then it would be buddy
Then youre not one-eyed - youre blind!
Abletts skills are far more rare - Ablett wins easily.
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We can only hope.
As reported in the age today, Buddy has the highest number of Clangers and is averaging almost one Clanger per Goal. Ablett's ball use and creativity are unparalleled at the moment and as was also reported in one of the papers he is more similar to Leigh Matthews (#1 player of all time) then anybody previous. Ricchiuto, Harvey have been similar players in their core strength, but they have simply not got the polish of Ablett. I would say that Gaz Jnr will be around for a very length career (like Matthews, Roo and Harvey) and we might even see him play an increasing role at Full Forward as he fills out a bit more.
Ablett is tough (19 contested possesions on w/e), creative, got a great contested mark grab (be interested to see the contested mark figures of Ablett), multi-dimensional, fast becoming an inspired leader and equally as productive off either side. He is able to drift forward and produce match winning goals (although admittedly he should have a few more this year).
Buddy is phenomenal, a great athlete, a prodigious left foot kick and the go to man for the Hawkers (did you see the inside 50 targets against the Bombers - Franklin something like 25, Roughead 3!!!). Buddy is also 2 and half years younger than Ablett, so lets see how his next 2 seasons go - you would expect him to become better.
At this stage though....i would take Gaz Jnr as i reckon he has more involvement in winning a game of football (with goal assists, releasing other players, defensive pressure, tackling not to mention his own goal tally) then Franklin (who is no doubt a match winner, but is still reliant on constant feed coming into the forward half)
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I wonder exactly what a clanger is . . . i find it hard to believe he can make as many as 7 in a game unless a clanger is giving away a free kick or 50 metres. He doesn't get enough possessions to make that many clangers . . . unless kicking a behind is also a clanger . . . who knows.
Roughead played outside 50 for most of the game against the Bombers to give Buddy space . . .that would explains why he wasn't much of an inside50 target . . . did you look up that stat about the I50 targets by yourself or was it in an article? Well it's misleading anyway... there are a lot of myths about buddy, another one which you mentioned is that buddy relies on a constant feed and getting the ball lace out, but if you check out a game in Round 10 where our midfield was smashed, you'll see he still kicked 5 goals out of our 12.
Buddy was leading the contested marks going into the game against the Bombers, he may still be ahead, not sure, but he's certainly up there.
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Apart from my obvious bias i picked franklin cos he's on track to do what many experts thought was impossible in the modern game, to kick 100 in a Home and Away Season . . . and he's doing it as a CHF.
Why would it be impossible when the rules today are designed to favour the forwards.
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