Geelong and Sydney - can anyone stop them?

[Mr Meow]

No risk of that. I mean Sydney have never had a very poor Grand Final performance in modern history.

Past performance is not a guarantee of future results.

Geelong choked in finals 2016-2022 right until they didn't. Richmond couldn't win a final 2013-2015, then there was a dynasty. Port 2001-2003 were hung up by Williams tie...until they weren't.

You're definitely not a simpleton, but it is only simpletons who would look on a series of previous grand final results to mean anything whatsoever about the current premiership chase.

 

[bloodsbigot]

...unless they have a serious grand final blunder.

We all know we're capable of that unfortunately.

That and corrupt umpiring.

 

[RUNVS]

We all know we're capable of that unfortunately.

That and corrupt umpiring.

Only one of the Grand Finals were corrupt umpiring, the other two we were just crap.

 

[Mr Meow]

We all know we're capable of that unfortunately.

That and corrupt umpiring.

See my above post. It's not a factor. Sure, failure can occur in any game but the only grand final you could argue is relevant to this group is 2022. They're a young group that has gotten better and upgraded parts of the team, as well as shedding used parts.

And it's just as likely 2022 remains the big motivation, much like the 2005 SF was still used for Geelong in 2007 (after a tricky year in between) and 2012 was used for Hawthorn.

So yeah, I just don't buy that stuff. It's only used as supporter superstition to protect against potential disappointment. RUNVS pulls off that style of posting immaculately, but I know they don't actually buy it.

 

[bloodsbigot]

Only one of the Grand Finals were corrupt umpiring, the other two we were just crap.

Agree. Cats, North and Hawks won fair and square.

 

[bloodsbigot]

See my above post. It's not a factor. Sure, failure can occur in any game but the only grand final you could argue is relevant to this group is 2022. They're a young group that has gotten better and upgraded parts of the team, as well as shedding used parts.

And it's just as likely 2022 remains the big motivation, much like the 2005 SF was still used for Geelong in 2007 (after a tricky year in between) and 2012 was used for Hawthorn.

So yeah, I just don't buy that stuff. It's only used as supporter superstition to protect against potential disappointment. RUNVS pulls off that style of posting immaculately, but I know they don't actually buy it.

Superstition and being overly emotional is what makes being a supporter fun, no?

Well for the sake of my own sanity I hope your right. I can't take another unexpected thrashing or robbery.

 

[Mr Meow]

Superstition and being overly emotional is what makes being a supporter fun, no?

Well for the sake of my own sanity I hope your right. I can't take another unexpected thrashing or robbery.

I would actually argue otherwise on superstition as it is a step away from reality and is a way to manage your emotions. I mean everyone does it to some degree, but actually believing in a grand final curse and you know you're in lala land.

On being fully emotionally invested, yes that is fun. And I think if you genuinely believe your side is the best in the comp you can quietly get excited (no screaming at oppo supporters), then accept the pain if there's a let down finish. Which in a knockout format, can happen. Luck always plays a part. The MCG grand finals are what they are.

Sydney are easily the best side in it right now. It's just a matter of getting the landing right in finals. Easier said than done!

 

[Cleansweep17]

Well Richmond beat Sydney and Richmond-lite beat Geelong.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

No one is stopping Sydney. Clearly the standout team this year.
Probably deserve another flag for being up for so long. Good luck to them.

And yes, Geelong should be removed from the thread title. Pretenders this year. Will probably play finals but will be eliminated week 1.

 

[Heeney2Franklin]

OP needs to change thread title to remove Geelong, because I do think Sydney are a walk-in for the flag unless they have a serious grand final blunder.

2014,2016,2022 ring a bell ! add in a few more Elmination/Semi final horror defeats inbetween.

Consistency and luck around player availability is a huge huge factor determining how well a team is going.

 

[Handsuper47]

Well, I'm pretty stoked to still be sitting where we are.
No one expected us to be inside top four at this stage of the season.

Meanwhile, your pitiful club is going to finish bottom two

Lol you get called out for talking nonsense and this is your response. Looks like that grand final loss must still sting, hey?

 

[BigVic]

Time to bring this up again. Looks like they'll be in the GF this year

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Time to bring this up again. Looks like they'll be in the GF this year

On the one hand we should never have lost to Richmond and St Kilda.

On the other hand, our total losing margin this season is eight points.

I think we’re the real deal.

 

[Cyber_punk]

No one is getting by Sydney this year.

3 losses, all by a total of 8 points combined.

Would require a huge bradbury for them not to win it

 

[Gordon Farkas]

Another season with Geelong and Sydney in the top 4 and are likely to meet in a finals match and possibly grand final. Will anyone be able to stop them?

Cats beat Pies and won the previous two. Not quite hype-worthy.

 

[Taper]

Well Richmond beat Sydney and Richmond-lite beat Geelong.

Who is Richmond lite?

 

[Jimmy Yamazaki]

A lot of people sleeping on the Lions, they haven't lost in like 10 weeks or so.

They win today and will be 4th.

 

[SM]

A lot of people sleeping on the Lions, they haven't lost in like 10 weeks or so.

They win today and will be 4th.

We have them next week, let's see how it goes.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

On the one hand we should never have lost to Richmond and St Kilda.

On the other hand, our total losing margin this season is eight points.

I think we’re the real deal.

Youre the real deal in terms of getting to the GF for sure. But i can see you struggling on GF day itself on the MCG-a lot of the players in 2022 really struggled with that. If you get a weakish side as a GF opponent like freo/ess/port etc it probably wont matter as you will be too good. But if you get us or carlton it probably will matter.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

A lot of people sleeping on the Lions, they haven't lost in like 10 weeks or so.

They win today and will be 4th.

Since the start of may they have only beaten 2 top 8 teams and those 2 are on fumes (port and melb). Brisbane are playing better but they havent beaten much (its a weak year). The sydney game next week will give a better idea of where they are at.

 

[CharlieMortdecai]

Since the start of may they have only beaten 2 top 8 teams and those 2 are on fumes (port and melb). Brisbane are playing better but they havent beaten much (its a weak year). The sydney game next week will give a better idea of where they are at.

If they win, Port are no longer a top 8 team.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Youre the real deal in terms of getting to the GF for sure. But i can see you struggling on GF day itself on the MCG-a lot of the players in 2022 really struggled with that. If you get a weakish side as a GF opponent like freo/ess/port etc it probably wont matter as you will be too good. But if you get us or carlton it probably will matter.

If we indeed make the GF and I say If would take Geelong all day long before Carlton or Essendon or Collingwood although Pies unlikely now. Having said that we make it, actually turn up and play near our best brand of footy we are capable of this year and it won’t matter who we play. A lot of water to go under the bridge however.

 

[Cleansweep17]

Who is Richmond lite?

GC and Pies. In the scenario you quoted I believe it was referring to GC as they beat you earlier in the season.

 

[Taper]

A lot of people sleeping on the Lions, they haven't lost in like 10 weeks or so.

They win today and will be 4th.

I would be happy to face Brisbane in a final at the MCG.
The only match ups I'd be worried about are Carlton or Collingwood at the MCG.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

If we indeed make the GF and I say If would take Geelong all day long before Carlton or Essendon or Collingwood although Pies unlikely now. Having said that we make it, actually turn up and play near our best brand of footy we are capable of this year and it won’t matter who we play. A lot of water to go under the bridge however.

I can understand why you would want us before carlton as they have a better midfield to compete with yours. That said what we have is a number of very experienced successful finals players and we have who i think tactically is the best coach in it. If anyone can come up with a plan to stop sydney in a one off final in melb its chris scott. That said if you play at your best you should win.