Review Grand Final, 2024 - Sydney vs. Brisbane Lions

[dlanod]

We do (did maybe with Joe gone?) have a impressive collection of 200cm tall quality players.

Swans really needed Amerty or McDonald to truely break out. More often than not you need more than just quality attacking mids to win finals

McDonald, I think it's definitely on the cards. He's still developing and the main knock on him is being rushed into being more than he's not already - a bit like some of the takes on Hipwood still.

Amartey... no. He's the prototypical athletic tall that can abuse a particular match-up but is absolutely anonymous the other 90% of the time. Finlayson was another.

 

[martinson]

McDonald, I think it's definitely on the cards. He's still developing and the main knock on him is being rushed into being more than he's not already - a bit like some of the takes on Hipwood still.

Amartey... no. He's the prototypical athletic tall that can abuse a particular match-up but is absolutely anonymous the other 90% of the time. Finlayson was another.

With McDonald still learning they were undersized against us and it was fine having a great M/F through the season in most games but on the MCG in a cutthroat game physical dominance of a key or keys is critical.

As it turned out it didn't matter that much because their M/F guns didn't fire.

When Amartey kicked those 9 goals in a game I thought you enjoy it mate because powerful teams won't be letting you do that again.

 

[Tom14]

McDonald, I think it's definitely on the cards. He's still developing and the main knock on him is being rushed into being more than he's not already - a bit like some of the takes on Hipwood still.

Amartey... no. He's the prototypical athletic tall that can abuse a particular match-up but is absolutely anonymous the other 90% of the time. Finlayson was another.

McDonald’s next goal from outside the goal square will be just about his longest ever.

I don’t see the competitiveness or the athleticism of a great key forward in him - think he’s a complementary piece at best for them.

 

[Happy_Neale]

I'm not sure whether it's appreciated by fans but it's rare to have players the size of Daniher and Andrews at either end who are as good as they are.

When I speak to people from other clubs who are reasonably savvy about the game they always give the same answer to the one player of ours they wish they could have at their club .

Andrews.

Both criminally underrated, Daniher in particular. How many players can kick 50+ goals year on year and ruck for 25% game time as well?

 

[LongLion]

Both criminally underrated, Daniher in particular. How many players can kick 50+ goals year on year and ruck for 25% game time as well?

Add to that is that Daniher has shown he is a fantastic big game player.

 

[greendiesel]

Nah, Andrews is a hack. Never (almost) picked as an AA.

Not that it matters that much in the overall...but........in which universe does Blakey get AA ahead of Andrews.

 

[MSB ROYS]

Not that it matters that much in the overall...but........in which universe does Blakey get AA ahead of Andrews.

He is a lizard? One of the overlords.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

Both criminally underrated, Daniher in particular. How many players can kick 50+ goals year on year and ruck for 25% game time as well?

"He who laughs last laughs best"​

 

[briztoon]

He is a lizard? One of the overlords.

 

[Sproj]

Not that it matters that much in the overall...but........in which universe does Blakey get AA ahead of Andrews.

Let’s not forget McGovern picks himself, so I mean, what do you do? Someone has to miss out so it might as well be the clear best of the lot…right?

 

[Perrip]

The major systems breakdown that almost derailed Brisbane’s premiership triumph

 

[Section 5]

The major systems breakdown that almost derailed Brisbane’s premiership triumph

Just another fact to add to the incredible journey that was 2024.

 

[martinson]

Just another fact to add to the incredible journey that was 2024.

The immediate question that arises to me is that maybe you're better off without the data. Obviously especially when things are going well.

 

[Section 5]

The immediate question that arises to me is that maybe you're better off without the data. Obviously especially when things are going well.

Could be.
Fagan and coaches had no reason to change much after 1/4 time.
Well on top, no need to change things unless something obvious to the coaches popped up.
Sydney only looked like kicking a few when the game was all but over until the siren sounded.

 

[Gadzorks]

Just another fact to add to the incredible journey that was 2024.

sleepylion (did I remember correctly that you are jessica) next version of you wonderful video can include this.

 

[pod17]

The immediate question that arises to me is that maybe you're better off without the data. Obviously especially when things are going well.

I’d also say that the data helps to validate the coaching staff’s on-field observations on how key areas of the game are unfolding.

So, whilst important, it’s not a deal breaker. Fagan probably loved the challenge on some level, relying on his old school coaching nous!

 

[Gadzorks]

The immediate question that arises to me is that maybe you're better off without the data. Obviously especially when things are going well.

I wonder if the players were told.

Things like stats can cut both ways. If your numbers are good but the team is down it's easy to go 'I'm doing my bit', stay as she goes.

Without stats players might just keep pushing.

Definately a learnings moment. I hate that word, but it fits.

 

[Mr Ripper]

Champion Data, one of the most successful normalised shams this century.

 

[sleepylion]

sleepylion (did I remember correctly that you are jessica) next version of you wonderful video can include this.

You are correct!!! I saw this today and could not believe it. New strategy guys - be so dominant that data is unnecessary

Next iteration will include more focus on Oscar's incredible selflessness and an animated feature where fagan receives a blank piece of paper and then faints mid-game

 

[martinson]

You are correct!!! I saw this today and could not believe it. New strategy guys - be so dominant that data is unnecessary

Next iteration will include more focus on Oscar's incredible selflessness and an animated feature where fagan receives a blank piece of paper and then faints mid-game

The data's there for when you're looking for answers because you don't have any.

The main beef that I have with the data is that it skews the way players play. What does every numpty do when the game's over ? They look at the stats sheet.

The most crucial features of footy aren't there. The IMPACT and TIMING of particular pieces of play. The potential mistakes that aren't made. The selfless parts of play that bring others into the game. The judgement it takes to take the right option, even if it's a defensive one. So many more.

 

[rye]

imagining fages getting the blank sheet of paper and taking it to mean everythings going perfect and not to change a thing.

 

[dlanod]

imagining fages getting the blank sheet of paper and taking it to mean everythings going perfect and not to change a thing.

Or just "shit, I forgot my glasses."

 

[martinson]

Or just "shit, I forgot my glasses."

The one thing it does illustrate is how chilled our whole organisation was on GF day.

And it filtered down to the players.

 

[BrainOfMorbius]

"I've got the stats here boys, but you know in your hearts what we have to do here today," (POCKETS SHEET DRAMATICALLY WITHOUT UNFOLDING IT) "so there's no point going over them. Keep the pressure up and back yourselves. You know, Karl Marx once said..." (etc.)

 

[irel]

"I've got the stats here boys, but you know in your hearts what we have to do here today," (POCKETS SHEET DRAMATICALLY WITHOUT UNFOLDING IT) "so there's no point going over them. Keep the pressure up and back yourselves. You know, Karl Marx once said..." (etc.)

"My object in life is to dethrone God and destroy capitalism" It was evident that this inspired the players to win the premiership and add a few extra dollars to their next contract.