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Never saw the vision with Silvagni, same with a couple of others and we were told time and time again by other Carlton supporters we would be wrong.

The same deficiencies in 2016/2017 are still here today.

Fumbly, unskilled footballers who try hard but don’t possess a lot of proper footballing ability.

Countless whiffed draft picks who never amounted to nothing.

We never showed a great level of skill with these youngsters back then. I don’t know why people magically expected us to find skill one day.

Why the club has so many slow contested type footballers is something I simply can’t comprehend. Footy hasn’t been played like that successfully in years.