Fixture Hawks after Tasmania? Sponsorship extended to 2025!
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Listen to the Eddie and jimmy podcast, it's to do with the all the Preliminary Finals being taken away from the MCG, when back in 2003 they all had to be played there.
It's why Collingwood play more games there Eddie said, Another few game at MCG for Collingwood makes up the lost revenue, as Collingwood have finals like crowds every game, he went to the AFL with the idea, not sure about the other teams.
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I mean that makes sense for Collingwood and to a lesser extent Richmond, but Hawthorn draw much larger MCG crowds than Melbourne
Last year, we drew almost 63,000 to 9 MCG home and away games (plus the 98,000 for the final). Imagine what sort of crowds we’ll draw with a decent draw, without starting 0-5 (3 of them MCG games) after finishing 16th
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It could be Melbourne are the original home tenant so they would get the most I guess, probably like when we were at Waverley and if we had another team come to play all there home game there we would have got more then them, so they have a contract to play all home games there going back since the MCG was built.
I wouldn't be extending in Tassie. I'd love to hear from a local but have we really gotten much out of Tassie? It's served its purpose absolutely, but I wonder how many of these members we have will drop off as soon as the Tassie team enters. The crowds have never been that good, whilst we've taken some of the best players in the history of the game down there regularly.
I know Marvel has this stigma for whatever reason, and as a SA resident I may not understand it all. But if we could get 40-50k there a few times a year and make a big deal of it it could be pretty cool. The club need to find a way to engage what we had in that final against the Dogs, that was seriously nuts, there were 70k plus Hawks fans there. They need to find a way to get 40k of them to come watch us smash the Giants on a Saturday night at Marvel.
I know Marvel has this stigma for whatever reason, and as a SA resident I may not understand it all. But if we could get 40-50k there a few times a year and make a big deal of it it could be pretty cool. The club need to find a way to engage what we had in that final against the Dogs, that was seriously nuts, there were 70k plus Hawks fans there. They need to find a way to get 40k of them to come watch us smash the Giants on a Saturday night at Marvel.
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We needed it 20 - 25 years ago. Not now. The most potential for growth is in Melbourne.
The most potential is in Melbourne if the league was run by a non-corrupt board.
Instead, the league is run by the old-boys, and heavily influenced by the media, which means potentially high drawing games for the hawks are pushed to marvel so low drawing games which wouldn't fill marvel involving Carlton and Essendon are at the g so the corporates can sell hyperinflated corporate boxes
Probably most likely, North are dropping at least 1 of their Hobart games apparently. You'd think the Tasmania would want to keep as many games as possible to keep interest until they join.
Or they may want to starve Tasmanian Hawks fans so they lose access to AFL games and have no choice but to jump on the devils.
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We are contracted for 2025. That leaves 26 & 27 before the Devils enter.
With North in the nose in Hobart and Launceston being redeveloped (capacity will be 15k for much of 2025 - 27), we should approach the AFL about splitting our four games between Launceston and Hobart, on the basis that North are gone.
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Makes no sense, AFL own marvel so capacity crowds there better for them
Crowds don't make the money, corporates do. Far more lucrative boxes at the mcg
There is no conspiracy theory. Essendon and Carlton want more games at the MCG - and definitely want to play Hawthorn in front of 75,000 to 85,000 instead of Fremantle (in front of 35,000)
Its in the AFL’s interest to have 2/3 out of the leagues top 12 highest drawing games at Marvel. They would have sold a hell of a lot more corporate boxes to the round 21 Carlton v Hawthorn game then they did the round 20 Essendon v Fremantle match
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Alternately, Doug Nicholls round game in cairns….powerful statement
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A 'few' home games a year at Marvel in the absence of a Tassie deal would be a bad outcome. You simply won't get 40,000 there against the Giants unless it was a final. If you can only get 30ish thousand to poorly drawing interstate sides at the G you aren't going to somehow get more at Marvel which is a ground most people dislike and the crowd crush before and after games make the MCG exit look utopian by comparison. Even if I had the misfortune of living in Docklands I would still want as many MCG games as we could get. Marvel is honestly one of the worst places to watch sport in the country.
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Nothing wrong with Marvel. I am still getting used to footy indoors after 25 years, but the sight lines are excellent. Better than the MCG. Certainly better than Launceston or Cairns sitting on the grass.
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A 'few' home games a year at Marvel in the absence of a Tassie deal would be a bad outcome. You simply won't get 40,000 there against the Giants unless it was a final. If you can only get 30ish thousand to poorly drawing interstate sides at the G you aren't going to somehow get more at Marvel which is a ground most people dislike and the crowd crush before and after games make the MCG exit look utopian by comparison. Even if I had the misfortune of living in Docklands I would still want as many MCG games as we could get. Marvel is honestly one of the worst places to watch sport in the country.
The finances are completely different to 2000 when we first went to Tassie cos those marvel games lost money.
Don’t need as big crowds any more but on the occasion we do at marvel, the atmosphere was great.
And the MCG? When they marketed ‘the people’s ground but people sent to the nosebleeds when there are hundreds of empty seats lower down
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I am not talking about into the future - the poster's question was 'have we really gotten much out of Tassie' - I believe over the course of the arrangement we have done very well financially.
And I would sit in the MCG nosebleeds every day of the week before sitting in the best seats in the house at Marvel. YMMD but atmosphere means something to me and Marvel, even when full, is utterly devoid of it.
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Roughys last game?
Our average there is over 35k, but not so many against non vic teams cos of Tassie.
Sometimes I think we go there thinking it will be poor and it ends up so.Marketing needs to step up and let’s dump the SE Melb team stuff too. Hawks are on the cusp of being powerhouse club
W54 L40 too. One of the most successful teams there
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Was there for that, Silk's 400th, Hodge's 'last' game, NRL origin games - many others. There is just something odd about that stadium - something about it feels artificial. Definitely a 'vibe' thing for me - others may differ but there is just something wholly unappealing about games at Marvel. That most Marvel tenants are clamouring to get more games at the MCG might indicate I am not alone in my opinion on the place.
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It just feels like a bigger rod laver arena. But I don’t experience the tassie games at all - never been, and obviously most Melb based fans don’t go any more either.
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Find it a bit odd questions re ‘what have we gotten out of tassie’. Someone more motivated than me can dig up the figures, but including memberships it’s been worth tens of millions over the journey.
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I'd love to get take on what Hawks have got out of Tassie from poster that used to lurk on here called The Realist.
He was our regular sage on things regarding Hawks in Tassie on here for a while lol.
He was our regular sage on things regarding Hawks in Tassie on here for a while lol.
It's a fun trip but the viewing is absolutely shithouse. The concourse between the front row and the fence kills the experience.
A 'few' home games a year at Marvel in the absence of a Tassie deal would be a bad outcome. You simply won't get 40,000 there against the Giants unless it was a final. If you can only get 30ish thousand to poorly drawing interstate sides at the G you aren't going to somehow get more at Marvel which is a ground most people dislike and the crowd crush before and after games make the MCG exit look utopian by comparison. Even if I had the misfortune of living in Docklands I would still want as many MCG games as we could get. Marvel is honestly one of the worst places to watch sport in the country.
Yeah 100% financially it's been great mate - that is the main thing and I should have clarified that part, I meant more from a supporter and long term perspective.
I also agree with your bottom points, I just think that we should get 40,000 there if we have the massive amount of fans and members we supposedly do have (which we saw in the finals). I understand the exit of Marvel is absolutely shithouse but I fail to see apart from that what is so bad about it, I find it such an overrated thing - the hate for the place. It's a lovely stadium with good sightlines and you're protected from the weather. It suffers poor branding imo.
And also, I agree about the MCG v Marvel point though also, I'm just being realistic as it doesn't seem any more MCG games will be possible.
