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It was not being called a super draft for talls, which is what the original poster claimed.
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No, I’m not getting into semantics, I’m making the same point I always was.
This 2022 draft was never dubbed a “super draft for talls”.
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No, I’m not happy because you’ve been arguing for the sake of arguing.
My original post said exactly what I have continually said and it’s still correct. No one ever dubbed the 2022 draft as a super draft for talls.
If the hawks and their supporters believe that they only need one more year at the draft before topping up then they’re even more delusional than I thought
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Mate, our team for next year is looking that good we couldn't even see room for Jom and TMitch.
I agree re. the delusional part - I don't see us needing another year at all. We're in the premiership window RIGHT NOW baby!
Wow, what an insightSunday afternoon at Norwood oval against the giants …
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You've been irrelevant for 2 decades
Jog on Troll
Ships in the night brother.
Get used to the timeslot, it’s the domain of the cellar dwellers …
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Can you please tell Sam Mitchell for us. I'm sure he'll be disappointed to hear that.
Alternatively, you could use some independent thought and consider list management and timelines.
They had a plan to take multiple first round picks and/or upward of 9 top 30 selections over a three year period. We have one year left to run on that plan. It's all contingent on the development of the young players already on the list, which has been strong. Majority of our B&F top 10 were 24 years old or younger. We also won an extra game in 2022 compared to 2021.
After one more year of maximising our draft hand, we'll then hopefully be in a position to offer up future high draft picks to acquire elite talent from other clubs. That planning will probably also rely on another solid year of youth development in 2023.
It's delusional to believe this rebuild is in its infancy. It goes back to Will Day and Finn Maginness in 2019.
It would be an issue if we had Fairweather supporters like Carlton
But alas we dont, you would want to make finals this year, bandwagon will empty en mass
It’s a Good move for the Hawks IMO , if your bad be very bad and get as much talent in as quick as possible
Ballsy by Mitchell though , 2023 will be fine but the heat will be on to show meaningful improvement in 2024 because that is just the way footy is … and it’s a lot of rolls of the dice that have to come up winners
7-8 years out of finals tests the patience of any club regardless of how much respect the coach has
Ballsy by Mitchell though , 2023 will be fine but the heat will be on to show meaningful improvement in 2024 because that is just the way footy is … and it’s a lot of rolls of the dice that have to come up winners
7-8 years out of finals tests the patience of any club regardless of how much respect the coach has
Spurs in the NBA doing the same thing for Victor Wemlandlasiadasdwdnyaba, seems to be only clubs with winning cultures that acknowledge it.
There's some symbolism about it, letting a bunch of youngsters know that it's not their time now, but you'll develop them and it will be one day.
At least they have a direction. Essendon fans have had the illusion that we might win a final every year for the last 10, but we've been accidentally tanking.
There's some symbolism about it, letting a bunch of youngsters know that it's not their time now, but you'll develop them and it will be one day.
At least they have a direction. Essendon fans have had the illusion that we might win a final every year for the last 10, but we've been accidentally tanking.
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This line made me chuckle.
Haha, I'm just easing myself into disliking Essendon as a Tasmanian team comes in I think
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You’re right, the HFC are delusional, as if they’d know what the make up of a flag challenging side would look like.
I’ve only seen 10 premeirships in my lifetime so my faith is clearly misguided, I should listen to Freo fans with 2013 PTSD instead.
No delusion here champ
The delusion is that you have an ounce of creditability or value to add to this forum
As i said, jog on troll
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Hawk fans getting their feathers a tad ruffled here, but in fairness, their footy club has been written off and dismissed more times in the past, especially over the last 20 years, than Australia's had Prime Ministers
At first glance, I don't think the Hawks had a particularly good draft and trade period, but they have proven me wrong before.
Going to be very interesting to see how they go in 2023, I think they will struggle for the first 4-6 weeks thsn gradually get better as the season gets on.
An 8 win season for them would be a good result
At first glance, I don't think the Hawks had a particularly good draft and trade period, but they have proven me wrong before.
Going to be very interesting to see how they go in 2023, I think they will struggle for the first 4-6 weeks thsn gradually get better as the season gets on.
An 8 win season for them would be a good result
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Late, late bump. But from what he did with the Swans reserves, and how highly he's rated by Gold Coast now, this was such a massive bummer too.
Seemed like a great man to have leading such a young and inexperienced side.
Based on their list, I'm not sure they'd be tracking much better - but it'd be interesting to see where North were at now if the support network had been there for Shaw.
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They aren't tanking in the traditional sense. They will try and win every game, but clearly they have gutted their list to the extent that they won't be competitive for a few years yet. North did a similar thing. It may work, but the AFL will hate it.
The Hawthorn review may provide some convenient options for the AFL to avoid this situation. As an example, rather than penalise Hawthorn draft picks the AFL could let them keep their picks but ban them from the early rounds of the next few drafts. That way they are forced to trade for established players or lose their picks. This would immediately improve Hawthorn's short-term performance and make their games more profitable for the AFL. It would be similar to the conditioned compensation picks North received this year.
The Hawthorn review may provide some convenient options for the AFL to avoid this situation. As an example, rather than penalise Hawthorn draft picks the AFL could let them keep their picks but ban them from the early rounds of the next few drafts. That way they are forced to trade for established players or lose their picks. This would immediately improve Hawthorn's short-term performance and make their games more profitable for the AFL. It would be similar to the conditioned compensation picks North received this year.
Picks will not be lost in this review
It will be a fine at most, AFL want this under the rug, any performance related penalties will be detrimental to what the AFL want
For this to go away
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