Hawthorn to play finals in 2024?

[hawkman]

I suspect most neutrals would take Option 1 over Option 2:

Option 1
Harry Sheezel
Zac Fisher
Colby McKercher
Josh Goater

Option 2
Jarman Impey
Jack Scrimshaw
Ethan Phillips
Massimo D'Ambrosio

Sicily is more of a medium tall than Phillips

 

[Chadwiko]

Sicily is more of a medium tall than Phillips

Sicily plays as a key defender.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I suspect most neutrals would take Option 1 over Option 2:

Option 1
Harry Sheezel
Zac Fisher
Colby McKercher
Josh Goater

Option 2
Jarman Impey
Jack Scrimshaw
Ethan Phillips
Massimo D'Ambrosio

And I suspect you deliberately removed Weddle, Jiath and Amon in favour of Phillips and D’Ambrossio.

 

[hawkman]

Sicily plays as a key defender.

Yet you included Phillips who is an actual key defender. Sicily is a 3rd tall who occasionally plays on key forwards

 

[Chadwiko]

And I suspect you deliberately removed Weddle, Jiath and Amon in favour of Phillips and D’Ambrossio.

I also removed Luke McDonald etc.

I went and looked at predicted Round 1 lineups and used those.

 

[Xtreme]

I suspect most neutrals would take Option 1 over Option 2:


Massimo D'Ambrosio

How could you not like someone who could both be a villain on the bold & the beautiful or have a twirly moustache in a Marvel movie ?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I also removed Luke McDonald etc.

I went and looked at predicted Round 1 lineups and used those.

“Etc”

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Hawthorn for starters

Humour me… who else?

 

[Blackhawk42]

I suspect most neutrals would take Option 1 over Option 2:

Option 1
Harry Sheezel
Zac Fisher
Colby McKercher
Josh Goater

Option 2
Jarman Impey
Jack Scrimshaw
Ethan Phillips
Massimo D'Ambrosio

Not one of those 4 North players actually defend. They're all rebounders, despite the collection of overall talent.

Impey and Phillips in particular are defend-first footballers.

So it depends on how much defending you actually want done.

 

[PowerfulPies2023]

The freak will fire from the flank
J.D will kick 10
Platten will rattle em
DJ will combine with Allan
Ayres, Collins, Langford will keep the Defence rock solid
P Hudson will kick 6
Pritchard will run riot
Tuck will lift the cup aloft

Those were the days. But those days aren't too far off.

 

[Sphynx]

Not one of those 4 North players actually defend. They're all rebounders, despite the collection of overall talent.

Impey and Phillips in particular are defend-first footballers.

So it depends on how much defending you actually want done.

Impey - 11.0 pressure acts, 1.1 spoils, 2.2 tackles a game
Sheezel - 20.7 pressure acts (2nd in the AFL amongst all defenders), 0.8 spoils, 2.9 tackles.

Who doesn't defend again?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Sheezel, McKercher, Fisher and Goater sure as s**t aren’t close to the worst group of mediums going around.

So let me join in the fantasy and say North’s 0 gamer, a failed forward flanker who has played zero games in defence and two 20 gamers are better than anything Hawks have….

Who else are North’s medium defenders better than in the comp?

 

[Sphynx]

So let me join in the fantasy and say North’s 0 gamer, a failed forward flanker who has played zero games in defence and two 20 gamers are better than anything Hawks have….

Who else are North’s medium defenders better than in the comp?

Who are you referring to here?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Who are you referring to here?

McKercher = zero games for North.
Fischer = zero games as a defender for North.

Now tell me which other clubs North have covered?

 

[Sphynx]

McKercher = zero games for North.
Fischer = zero games as a defender for North.

Now tell me which other clubs North have covered?

Oh, right.

You have changed your criteria already after you realised your mistake... always sneaky.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Oh, right.

You have changed your criteria already after you realised your mistake... always sneaky.

I’ve changed no criteria. McKercher has not played a single game, neither has Zac Fisher.

 

[hawkman]

Impey - 11.0 pressure acts, 1.1 spoils, 2.2 tackles a game
Sheezel - 20.7 pressure acts (2nd in the AFL amongst all defenders), 0.8 spoils, 2.9 tackles.

Who doesn't defend again?

Looks like Sheezel is someone who pushes up through the midfield. Just compare those stats to some good small-medium defenders

Hardwick 9 pressure acts, 2.6 spoils, 2 tackles
Quaynor 11.3 pressure acts, 1.8 spoils, 2.6 tackles

 

[the big lebowski]

I’ve changed no criteria. McKercher has not played a single game, neither has Zac Fisher.

Fisher had played games in defence for Carlton though. And played well.

Can we not assume Ginnivan will kick goals because he hasn’t played for hawthorn yet?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Now tell me which other clubs North have covered?

Sphynx go on.

I want to hear what clubs North is so much better than?

 

[SSSSSS]

It's almost like they forget they have won a collective 12 games since Covid.

Hard to blame them. Who would want to remember?

 

[VinnieB]

Sphynx go on.

I want to hear what clubs North is so much better than?

Easy tiger. No need to get so triggered.

 

[perplexed]

Sphynx go on.

I want to hear what clubs North is so much better than?

We all love a good pissing contest, but do you always have to go human bubbler as your first act?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It's almost like they forget they have won a collective 12 games since Covid.

Hard to blame them. Who would want to remember?

Every summer, without fail.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

We all love a good pissing contest, but do you always have to go human bubbler as your first act?

It’s a pretty straight forward request I’d have thought.

If North’s defense is “nowhere near the worst” it shouldn’t be hard to name at at least 3 or 4 clubs it’s better than?

 

[perplexed]

It’s a pretty straight forward request I’d have thought.

If North’s defense is “nowhere near the worst” it shouldn’t be hard to name at at least 3 or 4 clubs it’s better than?

Why? So you can add your laugh emoji to the response? If you actually made an effort to communicate in a civilised fashion maybe people would bother. Just a thought.