Hawthorn to play finals in 2024?

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It’s a pretty straight forward request I’d have thought.

If North’s defense is “nowhere near the worst” it shouldn’t be hard to name at at least 3 or 4 clubs it’s better than?

The original quote you're referring to is:

Sheezel, McKercher, Fisher and Goater sure as s**t aren’t close to the worst group of mediums going around.

They're better than Hawthorn's. That's sufficient to prove they aren't the worst group of medium defenders going around.

Don't know where "3 or 4 clubs" came to be a criteria. Just you and your love of shifting goal-posts I suppose.
 
Why? So you can add your laugh emoji to the response? If you actually made an effort to communicate in a civilised fashion maybe people would bother. Just a thought
I asked, he ignored.
I asked again.
 
The original quote you're referring to is:



They're better than Hawthorn's. That's sufficient to prove they aren't the worst group of medium defenders going around.

Don't know where "3 or 4 clubs" came to be a criteria. Just you and your love of shifting goal-posts I suppose.
“aren’t close to the worst”.

If they’re not close they’d have at least 3 or 4 of the 18 clubs covered. It’s not that hard to understand.
 

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Carlton won the same number of games last year without Walsh, than Hawthorn won for the entire season.

We’d obviously love him out there, but it’s a fallacy to suggest we’re no good without him.
From my rough calculations carlton played 26 games last year including finals. We won 15 drew 1 and lost 10.

Sam Walsh played 18 games for 8 wins and 10 losses.

Once again from my calculations that means of the 8 games that Sam missed we won 7 and drew 1.

He's a great player but from these figures not irreplaceable.
 
“aren’t close to the worst”.

If they’re not close they’d have at least 3 or 4 of the 18 clubs covered. It’s not that hard to understand.

Orrrr it means there's a big gap between the worst and second worst.

It's not that hard to understand.
 
Hawks nuffies and North nuffies arguing over which backline is currently worse is akin arguing over which tastes better, a sloppy turd sandwich or the drippings of a colostomy bag.

Hot tip: they're both shyte.
The difference is Hawks fans think they're going to be good this year. This entire thread is asking if they can play finals for petes sake hahaha. Delusional.

North fans know we are still a bottom squad, but we just want to believe that we will improve this year.
 
The difference is Hawks fans think they're going to be good this year. This entire thread is asking if they can play finals for petes sake hahaha. Delusional.

North fans know we are still a bottom squad, but we just want to believe that we will improve this year.
You won’t find any Hawthorn posters in here declaring we are playing finals.

Meanwhile…
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“North fans know we are still a bottom squad, but we just want to believe that we will improve this year.”

Wow, that other dude was right; you are terrible at basic comprehension.
 
The difference is Hawks fans think they're going to be good this year. This entire thread is asking if they can play finals for petes sake hahaha. Delusional.

North fans know we are still a bottom squad, but we just want to believe that we will improve this year.

There would be 1% of our fans that think “we’re going to be good this year”..that’s if good means making the 8. There’s also a 1% of that happening.

The majority of our supporters would like to see a steady improvement on last season, where we won 7 games but copped a lot of hidings.

The majority of our fans would be more than satisfied with 8-9 wins and a % of 90.. that would result in us finishing 15th which is still bottom 4…imo that wouldn’t be a bad result as I’m a realist and know where our list is at.
 
Wow, that other dude was right; you are terrible at basic comprehension.
Even the most deluded North fans wouldn’t have “we want to believe we can improve” as moving up 6 spots.
 
Hawks nuffies and North nuffies arguing over which backline is currently worse is akin arguing over which tastes better, a sloppy turd sandwich or the drippings of a colostomy bag.

Hot tip: they're both shyte.

I'll take the sloppy turd sandwich please.
 
Even the most deluded North fans wouldn’t have “we want to believe we can improve” as moving up 6 spots.
I don't claim to speak for all North fans. If there was a thread 'Can NMFC play finals' I would be very embarrassed.

My own (very optimistic) belief is that we are trending in the right direction while other bottom teams are trending down (Rich, Hawthorn, Essendon etc).
 
I don't claim to speak for all North fans. If there was a thread 'Can NMFC play finals' I would be very embarrassed.

My own (very optimistic) belief is that we are trending in the right direction while other bottom teams are trending down (Rich, Hawthorn, Essendon etc).

That's a very optimistic belief in both directions.

I'll concede Richmond but that's more to do with their list demographics.

Pains me to say but the Bombers seem to be improving. They might have gone a bit hard on getting some geriatrics in to their list but at least Goldy looked good on the weekend.

Can't really see the argument that we're trending down. Seems a bizarre claim to make given that we're already the second youngest list in the comp after being the youngest last year.
 
That's a very optimistic belief in both directions.

I'll concede Richmond but that's more to do with their list demographics.

Pains me to say but the Bombers seem to be improving. They might have gone a bit hard on getting some geriatrics in to their list but at least Goldy looked good on the weekend.

Can't really see the argument that we're trending down. Seems a bizarre claim to make given that we're already the second youngest list in the comp after being the youngest last year.
I've been consistent on this since last year. In fact I think I recall you, SYL and Smosh challenging me on this issue in September 2023.

But I'll repeat it again now; I firmly believe this will be Hawthorns bottoming-out year. Last year gave you false hope that you were further ahead of your rebuild than you actually are, and this year will be a crash to earth.

I have you as bottom two with the Eagles. I think the Hawks win max six games.
 

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