Problem is social media shows there is a large audience who feed off that fear.
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Problem is social media shows there is a large audience who feed off that fear.
215 million dollars so our met-cops have even more weapons to use on homeless people and minority groups, thanks Dan!
Victoria to issue all frontline police with Tasers
All frontline police officers will be armed with Tasers following a $214 million funding announcement from the state government. But civil liberties groups say they have serious concerns.www.theage.com.au
Wonder how long it will be until some disabled or disadvantaged guy gets smashed by one of these things.
Tasering fare-evaders does sound fun though, would definitely make hanging out at train-stations a bit more entertaining.
Geez they’ve taken their time, tasers have been promised and required for a very long time and even this won’t cover the whole force.
This is a step in the right direction https://www.theage.com.au/politics/...victorian-civil-lawsuits-20211221-p59j8j.html
But they also need an independent and well resourced body investigating VicPol when incidents do occur. The failure to activate the cameras in any incident when there is use of force should be grounds for an automatic dismissal from the job.
I think the bodycams have done wonders for transparency in Los Angeles, and soon after it was introduced, they hit a 30-year low in Police shootings, despite the rise of police shootings in the past year.
Any incident in LA with the use of significant force (shooting, taser, beanbag, batons, teargas etc), where someone is hospitalised, or where there is significant community concern has to by law, be released publicly (LAPD put it on Youtube). It certainly means there is far greater transparency on the incidents the police are involved in, although its still not perfect https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/may/07/los-angeles-police-body-camera-footage-lawsuits (their Youtube is here, but it can be graphic, but gives you an idea of what they capture).
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Are masks not required indoors just in your home or in all homes even when you are visiting someone else?
Not in any private home by their wording so you don’t have to wear them at Xmas lunch at the in laws, unless you want to not talk
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So the biggest indoor spreading event doesn't have a mask mandate.Not in any private home by their wording so you don’t have to wear them at Xmas lunch at the in laws, unless you want to not talk
I'd imagine because it's impossible to enforce? Given free movement.
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This is kind of meaningless until we can see what the legislation is.
Unless I'm mistaken, officers presently have the power to edit the footage before providing it anyway.
Call me cynical, but given Andrew's love of law & order and our police force I'm not very optimistic that the legislation will provide meaningful change.
Well at least Andrews has never encouraged asymptomatic cases to not get tested.
Yep, but the health advice!!! And when the health advice doesn’t say what they want, they tell them to change the health advice!!!
The relentless crime gangs scare is what encouraged this.
Lotta new social libertarians now mad the government is doing exactly what they wanted them to do.
You'd be the first to bitch about it veing a ridiculous unenforceable measure.
When has that ever stopped them before?
Including those irrationally fearful of the vaccine
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From the CHO own words. You put it in place to lead to greater compliance. It was also the rules when visiting homes late last year/early this year
Mandatory masks indoors for Victorians from tonight
Face masks will be required indoors for everyone in Victoria aged over eight, and at large outdoor events, the state government has announced.
That was when restrictions for freedom of movement/density limits were in place.From the CHO own words. You put it in place to lead to greater compliance. It was also the rules when visiting homes late last year/early this year
Mandatory masks indoors for Victorians from tonight
Face masks will be required indoors for everyone in Victoria aged over eight, and at large outdoor events, the state government has announced.
Currently we have neither.
So you admit you just want to complain either way?
It makes no sense now, because without density rules or curbs on movement, it can't be enforced, particularly over Christmas.
Imagine if Andrews told those possibly COVID positive not to get tested, because the system was under too much strain, the day after he said everything was cool, no restrictions.
This board and the news media would melt.
We'd see nooses erected on the steps of state parliament and just about every journalist from Fairfax to News calling for him to resign. They'd be calling it a disaster of apocalyptic proportions. Rent a flogs like Dr. Nick and Katherine Bennett would be spitting out the op-eds over it being the single worst public health failure in Australian history, faster than a copy machine.
This board and the news media would melt.
We'd see nooses erected on the steps of state parliament and just about every journalist from Fairfax to News calling for him to resign. They'd be calling it a disaster of apocalyptic proportions. Rent a flogs like Dr. Nick and Katherine Bennett would be spitting out the op-eds over it being the single worst public health failure in Australian history, faster than a copy machine.
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hawkman
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Definitely wasn't movement limits, density possibly but it was something like 10 to your home in a day.
And anyway the comment he made today would indicate even if it wasn't enforceable it would still lead to a greater level of compliance. All year we have been told home visits are the biggest spreading events and now there are no mask mandates to cover the biggest spreading event.
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Well for starters we'd have you here telling us why it makes sense.
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Mandating masks in private households is pointless. If that's that biggest gripe you're taking away from today's announcements then there isn't much to bitch about.
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who's bitching about masks not being mandated in homes?
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I reckon the masks everywhere no matter what rule we had last two winters damaged mask mandates big time
Outdoors walking along must wear a mask, rules that don't make sense and aren't proportionate
I have no issues with masks indoor in public spaces and for large crowds like at the G
maybe we'd not have dropped them as hard if they hadn't made masks close to political poison with their whole lets just make going outside miserable schtick the last two winters
Outdoors walking along must wear a mask, rules that don't make sense and aren't proportionate
I have no issues with masks indoor in public spaces and for large crowds like at the G
maybe we'd not have dropped them as hard if they hadn't made masks close to political poison with their whole lets just make going outside miserable schtick the last two winters
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I don't recall saying anyone was.
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