Traded Jack Ginnivan [Traded with #39, F2 & F4 to Hawthorn for #33, F2 & F3]

[SSSSSS]

You must be one of the last that doesnt have him on ignore

I like Red Bull. He says some funny things. It's usually even funnier because he supports Carlton.

 

[Philhawk]

Deal done.

Swap of F2's by Hawks and Pies.

Sensational deal for us.

 

[greennick]

No way 33 gets it done.

IMO the Hawks need to try to split pick 4 into 2 first rounders, and then Pies chuck in Ginnivan and 19 for a pick in the early teens.

Crows's 14 might get it done. Something like this:

Pies:
IN: Pick 14
OUT: Ginnivan, Pick 19

Hawks:
IN: Pick 10, Pick 19, Ginnivan
OUT: Pick 4

Crows:
IN: Pick 4
OUT: Pick 10, Pick 14

Collingwood won't get close to what he's worth given the situation and he's not even their best 22, a 2nd round pick is generous.

 

[STPer18]

Ginni and Moore are going to keep the umps very busy up forward.

 

[TradeDraft]

Collingwood must really want Ginnvan Gone

 

[nahnah]

Good luck to him, I dont like the trade

 

[HBFlanker]

Deal done.

Swap of F2's by Hawks and Pies.

Sensational deal for us.

That's a pretty good deal in the end.

He is worth around pick 40 in a straight so it makes sense.

 

[HairyO]

Seems like Hawk fans have just ‘discovered’ Ginnivan over the last 24 hours.

Complete 180 turn.

Ive been saying for 2 years that he is good when he focusses on football.

Something he really needs to work on but will have a great tutor in Breust.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Seems like Hawk fans have just ‘discovered’ Ginnivan over the last 24 hours.

Complete 180 turn.

No, not at all. In fact, I posted of my interest to get him Hawthorn this trade period way back in July...

Last off season people brought up the name Jack Ginnivan as a player Hawthorn should target.

It was rightly laughed off as a contracted 19 year old who had just kicked 40 goals in a season at a big club that was doing well on field.

However, now that he's not getting picked at Collingwood - it's possible he may be keen for a move to a club where he would antiipate that he can more easily earn a game.

Not having the season he did last year but is still only 20 and with Wingard and Breust close to retirement, would we be interested?

He had 28 touches, 5 tackles and kicked 2 goals 3 in the VFL on the weekend. Overall, he is averaging 15 disposals, 4 tackles and 1.3 goals at VFL level this season. Whilst this does not excite very much given the level, small forwards often have the same amount of limited opportunities at all levels (unlike, say a midfielder that can rack up the touches at VFL level and play in a pocket or a flank at AFL level for a vastly different result).

Feel like Collingwood couldn't ask the world for a player not getting games that wants out?

You'll note at the start pof that post that Hawthorn supporters were raising him last trade period and that the response to my post was mostly positive.

Pleased it eventuated in the way that I'd hoped.

 

[danster168]

if/when Collingwood fans boo jack ginnivan after playing the moral high card when other fans booed him, the hypocrisy will be unrecoverable.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Pleased with the deal too.

Good possibility Collingwood's F2 ends up going to Gold Coast for Chol.

If so, it means our F2 will have brought in Ginnivan and Chol. Our 2nd round pick this year (now with Gold Coast) is pick 24. Pick 24 for those two is pretty good business, particularly with the hope we can rise up the ladder a few more spots.

 

[TazHawk15]

if/when Collingwood fans boo jack ginnivan after playing the moral high card when other fans booed him, the hypocrisy will be unrecoverable.

Wait till you get a look at Eddie’s u turn on this topic.

 

[TradeDraft]

Lot of Pies fans Overrating Ginnivan

He is not a Automatic Best 22 player.

Got Games in Finals because of Injuries

 

[Erakor]

Good deal for Hawthorn.

Will be mid 20s when they start hitting the top end of the ladder again.

 

[DeezNuts]

About right value wise

He’s not that good and has issues off the field, very speculative

 

[TazHawk15]

Lot of Pies fans Overrating Ginnivan

He is not a Automatic Best 22 player.

Got Games in Finals because of Injuries

Kind of like how lots of Pies fans will now tell us how crap he is after telling us how good he was.
It’s how BF works and you just provided exhibit A and you needed to post the exact same thing on the Collingwood board just to illustrate how BF works.

 

[danster168]

Good deal for Hawthorn.

Will be mid 20s when they start hitting the top end of the ladder again.

He may not even be in the afl by then. he has a lot of work to do. off field and on field.

 

[sleep]

We all see the Mcstay video? Thats why Ginni's so cheap

 

[RAPPA]

We all see the Mcstay video? Thats why Ginni's so cheap

The closest Ginni has been to a hard ball get.

 

[sleep]

The closest Ginni has been to a hard ball get.

always been a good goal sneak though

 

[RAPPA]

always been a good goal sneak though

True. He always knows where to find the big stick.

 

[danster168]

I think he probably regrets going to the races now too. You could tell McRae thought it was a dumb thing to do.

 

[marcmurphy3]

I think he probably regrets going to the races now too. You could tell McRae thought it was a dumb thing to do.

Imagine the fallout if the Pies lost. Not that it would be the reason, but these things tend to be let go more easily when the result works out.

It's like Aker with the Lions. Nobody cared that he was tool when they were winning but as soon as they dropped off it became a big issue.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Collingwood must really want Ginnvan Gone

Appears that way

 

[danster168]

Imagine the fallout if the Pies lost. Not that it would be the reason, but these things tend to be let go more easily when the result works out.

It's like Aker with the Lions. Nobody cared that he was tool when they were winning but as soon as they dropped off it became a big issue.

100%. Like the day before the granny. Just put your feet up and watch some Netflix or play some video games or something. Have some friends over. Going out in public, being on your feet all day, in the sun, is a terrible preparation for the biggest game of his life. I actually think it was a factor in him leaving.