Rumour Jack Luk-no-sius

[ams4crows]

So they want to pay more money for a lesser player to get a mid to late 1st round pick...

Seems strange, Houston is AA for a reason, probably should have been their captain as well

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I don't think they want to, Houston is the instigator here.

Houston himself said he wanted to stay.

This is club initiated.

Port could keep him if they wanted to as under contract.

 

[kirky]

Please bump this post if a deal is done within the first hour of trade week.

Because if what's being said is true. Paper work submitted?

Yeah?

The trade won’t be announced in the first hour of trade week.

It certainly doesn’t mean that things are well advanced. At the moment, the decision rests with Luko given he is contracted and GC can’t do anything about that but if you seriously don’t think clubs aren’t talking to each other, I’ve got a bridge to sell to you.

 

[Cromulant]

Houston himself said he wanted to stay.

This is club initiated.

Port could keep him if they wanted to as under contract.

After he said that, he met with 4 Melbourne clubs in 2 days.

Not sure Port would've initiated that.

 

[Danger in Texas]

So they want to pay more money for a lesser player to get a mid to late 1st round pick...

Well, they probably do need one after trading their 22/23/24 1sts, in order to keep their options open for their 1st in 2025 (they might chase NWM, for instance)

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

After he said that, he met with 4 Melbourne clubs in 2 days.

Not sure Port would've initiated that.

Port initiated it!

He's being pushed out so they can get back into the draft.

 

[Danger in Texas]

I don't think they want to, Houston is the instigator here.

Bit of both

Houston wants to leave, Port happy to let him leave for a decent price

 

[Cromulant]

Port initiated it!

He's being pushed out so they can get back into the draft.

Houston wants to leave, he could quite easily stand his ground.

He's not.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Houston wants to leave, he could quite easily stand his ground.

He's not.

Would you stay in your job if your employer wanted you out?

 

[Cromulant]

Would you stay in your job if your employer wanted you out?

Like the player this thread is about ??

Players refuse to be traded all the time. Port are absolutely mad to even contemplate trading a guy who's probably their best player.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Would you stay in your job if your employer wanted you out?

Wasn't there reports Houston himself was distancing himself from his teammates as the season went on?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Wasn't there reports Houston himself was distancing himself from his teammates as the season went on?

Not that I'm aware.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Like the player this thread is about ??

Players refuse to be traded all the time. Port are absolutely mad to even contemplate trading a guy who's probably their best player.

Yep, they are mad imo.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Not that I'm aware.

I definitely recall hearing it, might look to see where it’s referenced in print in a bit

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I definitely recall hearing it, might look to see where it’s referenced in print in a bit

Butters is a bigger issue!

 

[Cromulant]

Butters is a bigger issue!

I think they need to keep Boak around the club in a big way, he's the glue that holds that playing group together.

 

[Nicks_out_now]

The trade won’t be announced in the first hour of trade week.

It certainly doesn’t mean that things are well advanced. At the moment, the decision rests with Luko given he is contracted and GC can’t do anything about that but if you seriously don’t think clubs aren’t talking to each other, I’ve got a bridge to sell to you.

If saying stuff like this makes you feel important, congratulations to you.

I accept clubs talk about deals, but I certainly don't buy that the deal is done and is held up just to build suspense

 

[Carmo]

But if giving up the future 1st nets us Luko and a top 25 pick to get Dodson that’s a win

We can then go all in end of next year with future 1st for NWM

We should have access to two future firsts next year if we need them FWIW.

 

[119others]

They have the space

Mate you have mentioned this confidently a few times saying they could fit in Luko (1m next 2 years) and Perryman (850k ish).

Can I ask how so confident? Agree it’s been reported they had ample salary space but an extra 2m almost on 2 players surely tightens things up based on all the recent trade ins (Rat 750k someone had said was reported in the media recently), the 2 ruckman (500k ish each?), but JHf contract the year before. And that’s before Butters on 1-1.3m new contract to try and keep him upon becoming a FA

 

[119others]

IF Port really are in for him and they ship Houston, here is how I see it playing out

Port trade Houston for a mid 1st and a 2nd (either this draft or future).
Port offer F1 for Luko and change
Port take the mid 1st they get from Houston to this draft to get a quality mid
Port will get Perryman who can pick up slack from losing Houston. Burgoyne also will do that next year.

They can easily set up a strategy to get things done and improve their list

Sounds about right for Houston. Pick 10 and 28. I would think the Saints with one of their top 10 picks (assuming Battle still gets tier one compo which still does my head in) would likely be willing to give that up for Houston and be the core component of any trade. Plus perhaps a F2.

No way he gets 2 x good firsts

 

[119others]

Aren’t all these scenarios based on getting good picks for Houston kind of forgetting that they will lose a really good player - pretty much in his prime - from a position on the field that Paer struggle in?

If the plan is to put Luko as key forward and send Rutogalea back to cover Dan the Man?

Houston was one of the players I saw as crucial to their success, so losing him feels like big loss. Not sure how adding Lukosius to an underperforming forward line will remedy that?

Agreed and he is more of the same. Like Mitch and even Marshall he ain’t that pack splitting beast like TT (plus mongrel The Fog) or Charlie purported to be. Perhaps Lord comes good but apparently been dud like in their dud SANFL team so signs aren’t good. Even Finlayson, who is very skilful for a big guy, but extremely soft footballer and never going to be the pack smasher,

They need another (better) Dixon, not more of the same.

 

[119others]

Port initiated it!

He's being pushed out so they can get back into the draft.

I actually think it’s both, clearly Port could poo poo it straight away as you say (like Dons did with Merrett, Dees with Pets) and I agree they want in to this years draft which is quite even in the top 10-12 picks which they will likely land. It was stupidity paying so much for Rat last year giving up this years first.

Also though I believe Houston realises he is on way under market according to media reports (my guess 650k x 4 years left vs his current market value more like 850k x a 5 year contract he should be able to land). That’s an extra 1m before tax and many players often have multiple negative geared properties to reduce tax.

So could work out for both parties but Power will need to get their pound of flesh to release him.

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Purely a first person recount but from what I recall the initial Houston trade rumours were that Port were shopping Houston looking to get back into the draft. These rumours were laughed at, and a few weeks later Houston wanting to leave Port started popping up in the media.

 

[Nicks_out_now]

I definitely recall hearing it, might look to see where it’s referenced in print in a bit

That was said on a news service. I can remember someone saying it, but forget what channel.

 

[Shifty Crow]

Purely a first person recount but from what I recall the initial Houston trade rumours were that Port were shopping Houston looking to get back into the draft. These rumours were laughed at, and a few weeks later Houston wanting to leave Port started popping up in the media.

There has been a huge amount of mis-messages from all parties

I think Houston initially shooed himself to MELB and it seems that MELB being his preferred club was a done deal, however the Petracca mess and dirty laundry airing caused a Houston backflip

After that Houston announced that he was staying at Port, however Port’s appetite to use Houston to get back into this years first round draft had been stoked

Since then I think all Melbourne clubs are aware that both Houston and Port are open to a trade


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