Delisted Jack Martin [Selected by Carlton in the PSD]

[jezzajay]

A lot of arrogant Blues fans here. Before you start to ridicule Suns look at your club first.

Great history, big support base, a lot resources. Yet, look at your past 19 years. How's that even possible? How many spoons did you win? 5. What about brown paper bags full of cash? How many PPs did you get? PP2 (2003, Walker), PP1 (2005, Murphy), PP1 (2007, Kreuzer). That looks to me like a better deal than what Suns got (2, 20, 11, 20). Just a year ago you won 2 games and had a worse percentage than Suns this year. Yet, you talk like you are a top 4 club with no issues.

Suns is not an established club with a long history. Suns is owned and controlled by AFL. AFL totally screw up Suns set up in NRL environment. It would be fun to see Carlton working from metal demountable sheds including gym for 8 years. Suns were underfunded at all levels, started with admin, senior coach first time in those positions, academy zone producing no players early, no F/S, non-existing off field commercial opportunities for players, ridiculous stadium deal.

Regarding Martin, two clubs had different view on his value. Carton expected that Suns were bluffing and were focused on Papley deal. Yes, AFL assistance to Suns had an impact on Suns position. If you think the whole process had no impact just listen SOS interview 'Martin went through a lot'. No club wants a player coming to them through a PSD. Could Suns agree to a deal proposed by Carlton? Not doubt. As Carlton could accept sliding down.

Regarding pick trades for Flanders and Sharp Suns got players they wanted and used assistance picks for them. Cats would never accept Carlton future 2nd, 3rd while Suns had pick 11.

Personally, I would love to see Martin at his best. It could be a great sight to see Martin do his magic in front of 80K. I have some doubts about him. In the second half of the season Martin was borderline embarrassing in some games. Even if you want to leave you don't play like that. Hopefully, fresh start will motivate Martin and he lifts his standards on and off the field. He is a super talent.

Finally, not sure why so many Carlton fans need to fight and win battles. It's a footy, AFL is a national game. It's in AFL interest for Suns to succeed. If anything, Suns brief history shows how hopeless AFL headquarters are and how AFL is still run and controlled by VFL clubs.

Oh...a suns supporter melting...feeling a little burned in that Gold Coast schoolies sun. I’d be melting about my clubs incompetent draft/trade handling more so than another clubs ‘history’...now that’s a deflection.

 

[Jirik13]

Oh...a suns supporter melting...feeling a little burned in that Gold Coast schoolies sun. I’d be melting about my clubs incompetent draft/trade handling more so than another clubs ‘history’...now that’s a deflection.

Not melting at all.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

*GatesOfHell has left the chat*

 

[RedFury]

Finally, not sure why so many Carlton fans need to fight and win battles.

It might have something to do with your club/president refusing what everyone else thought a totally reasonable trade offer, then your Prez getting out in the media and spouting crap about re-drafting an uncontracted player who didn't want to be there. Go and listen to what he said and tell me he didn't turn this into a shitfight.

And yes - it got Blues fans pretty pissed and imo that's the main reason for this reaction you're seeing now.

Your club (mainly Prez) really acted like dicks on this one and come out looking pretty bad here imo.

 

[jooce8891]

GatesOfHell hi

 

[jezzajay]

Thanks Suns...that was too easy.

 

[Foucault1989]

Where are all the posts GatesOfHell bookmarked? And where is old mate Peel67skin

 

[Donstuie]

I look forward to many more years of Gold Coast “taking a stand” with us.

 

[Elmer_Hauser]

Hope Melbourne take him. If they can afford him in any capacity they should select him.

DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA DA

 

[jooce8891]

still waiting for a response from GatesOfHell

 

[Bostonian]

Finally, not sure why so many Carlton fans need to fight and win battles. It's a footy, AFL is a national game. It's in AFL interest for Suns to succeed. If anything, Suns brief history shows how hopeless AFL headquarters are and how AFL is still run and controlled by VFL clubs.

It's a National Comp that people would rather see a Tassie team in than a Gold Coast one.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

I look forward to many more years of Gold Coast “taking a stand” with us.

Fiorini next year at PSD pick 18

 

[Kernafides]

Only Carlton supporters in here?? Where has everybody else gone ;p

 

[jezzajay]

Only Carlton supporters in here?? Where has everybody else gone ;p

Definitely haven't all gone to the Gold Coast.

 

[KnobHead]

A lot of arrogant Blues fans here. Before you start to ridicule Suns look at your club first.

Great history, big support base, a lot resources. Yet, look at your past 19 years. How's that even possible? How many spoons did you win? 5. What about brown paper bags full of cash? How many PPs did you get? PP2 (2003, Walker), PP1 (2005, Murphy), PP1 (2007, Kreuzer). That looks to me like a better deal than what Suns got (2, 20, 11, 20). Just a year ago you won 2 games and had a worse percentage than Suns this year. Yet, you talk like you are a top 4 club with no issues.

Suns is not an established club with a long history. Suns is owned and controlled by AFL. AFL totally screw up Suns set up in NRL environment. It would be fun to see Carlton working from metal demountable sheds including gym for 8 years. Suns were underfunded at all levels, started with admin, senior coach first time in those positions, academy zone producing no players early, no F/S, non-existing off field commercial opportunities for players, ridiculous stadium deal.

Regarding Martin, two clubs had different view on his value. Carton expected that Suns were bluffing and were focused on Papley deal. Yes, AFL assistance to Suns had an impact on Suns position. If you think the whole process had no impact just listen SOS interview 'Martin went through a lot'. No club wants a player coming to them through a PSD. Could Suns agree to a deal proposed by Carlton? Not doubt. As Carlton could accept sliding down.

Regarding pick trades for Flanders and Sharp Suns got players they wanted and used assistance picks for them. Cats would never accept Carlton future 2nd, 3rd while Suns had pick 11.

Personally, I would love to see Martin at his best. It could be a great sight to see Martin do his magic in front of 80K. I have some doubts about him. In the second half of the season Martin was borderline embarrassing in some games. Even if you want to leave you don't play like that. Hopefully, fresh start will motivate Martin and he lifts his standards on and off the field. He is a super talent.

Finally, not sure why so many Carlton fans need to fight and win battles. It's a footy, AFL is a national game. It's in AFL interest for Suns to succeed. If anything, Suns brief history shows how hopeless AFL headquarters are and how AFL is still run and controlled by VFL clubs.

I enjoyed this, don’t stop.

So you knocked back a 2nd & 3rd round pick (which could be upgraded to a 1st) for a “borderline embarrassing” player?


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[Cobwebs]

Carlton got their man and Gold Coast sent out a message to the other clubs. After that the club signed up some of their young guns to longer contracts. Well done Gold Coast, you are winners.

 

[KnobHead]

Carlton got their man and Gold Coast sent out a message to the other clubs. After that the club signed up some of their young guns to longer contracts. Well done Gold Coast, you are winners.

Are you saying other clubs will no longer go after GC players?



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[Cobwebs]

Are you saying other clubs will no longer go after GC players?



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Of course they will, just might not be as easy to get them. And in the interests of a National competition that is a good thing, need 18 strong clubs.

 

[docko911]

In effect Carlton have recruited Martin and Betts to replace what they lost from Betts, Garlett and to a leaser extent Yarran, thanks to the Saviour Malthouse.

 

[docko911]

Also, Martin is mostly a dud.

 

[Kernafides]

In effect Carlton have recruited Martin and Betts to replace what they lost from Betts, Garlett and to a leaser extent Yarran, thanks to the Saviour Malthouse.

Yep those stellar careers of Garlett and Yarran

 

[T2B_]

I look forward to many more years of Gold Coast “taking a stand” with us.

This feels more like a very good "one night" stand.

 

[Arr0w]

Also, Martin is mostly a dud.

Haha

 

[T2B_]

Also, Martin is mostly a dud.

Yeah, Richmond fans are automatically experts on all things AFL because their team won a flag.

 

[Arr0w]

Finally we can put this to bed

Martin for free

GC Cochrane is all p1ss and wind