Toast James Sicily - Hawthorn captain 2023 - AA 2023!

[cryptor]

Gotta love the tribunal disallowing evidence related to the grading of the offence as irrelevant and then go on to present their case on the basis of how it looks which isn’t a factor in the grading.

Literally making up the rules as they go to suit the result they’re after.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Honestly, where did we find this guy??

He should be arguing that the player did not feel contact.
There is no risk of injury from zero contact.

 

[kirbatron]

lol hes cooked

 

[cryptor]

Honestly, where did we find this guy??

He shoud be arguing that the player did not feel contact. There is no risk of injury form zero contact.

That’s an own goal admitting any potential for injury.

 

[Sixpence]

What does this even mean?! How do you judge force from how it looks?

 

[Siri]

Honestly, where did we find this guy??

He should be arguing that the player did not feel contact.
There is no risk of injury from zero contact.

Have we not learned? Obviously not.

 

[peetoo]

Club should challenge the tribunal procedure by whatever means possible. Victim statement. Nothing to see here. It’s not ‘the code’ any more

 

[KermitJagger]

I'll preface this by saying that Sic 100% needs to stop doing this stupid shit as captain, but is there any other player in the comp that they'd outright dismiss first hand evidence from the other player involved? Can't imagine there would be.

 

[BobHawk]

Seems like the AFL wants Sicily to pay for the act of kicking regardless of impact.Would think that the same ruling should be applied to throwing a punch that doesn't connect because neither is acceptable. Sic is gonsky but the AFL argument is completely flawed unless all acts of violence are treated the same.

 

[Stranglers]

Hawks lawyer in full flight.

 

[thehardway]

Deliberating now. Didn't go well.

 

[Iceman!]

I'll preface this by saying that Sic 100% needs to stop doing this stupid s**t as captain, but is there any other player in the comp that they'd outright dismiss first hand evidence from the other player involved? Can't imagine there would be.

Sure is funny that NOW the AFL is worried about how players code could interfere with a hearing...

 

[peetoo]

Seems like the AFL wants Sicily to pay for the act of kicking regardless of impact.Would think that the same ruling should be applied to throwing a punch that doesn't connect because neither is acceptable. Sic is gonsky but the AFL argument is completely flawed unless all acts of violence are treated the same.

Sicily got suspended for dropping down on Selwood but Selwood was inhibiting from getting off Selwood argued and got off exactly the same act just a few weeks later

If McGrath doesn’t line him up, there’s no incident.

‘If you elect to bump, and you hurt your head, that’s a suspension’

 

[Siri]

Sure is funny that NOW the AFL is worried about how players code could interfere with a hearing...

Judd won a Brownlow off the back of it.

 

[VandoHawk]

We always hire the most incompetent lawyers.
McGrath admission disallowed twice? Get an Essendon medical report.
Say the force behind the kick had no potential for harm without providing any wiggle room.
Bring up like 10 videos of similar kicking incidents where other players only received fines.

 

[peetoo]

Deliberating now. Didn't go well.

If it takes more than a few minutes, they are delaying just for looks

 

[cryptor]

Have to wonder if they’d allow McGrath to give evidence if it wasn’t already known it would support Sicily.

And didn’t see any mention of the medical report in Zita’s tweets.

Ban will be upheld.

 

[Stranglers]

Have to wonder if they’d allow McGrath to give evidence if it wasn’t already known it would support Sicily.

And didn’t see any mention of the medical report in Zita’s tweets.

Ban will be upheld.

100%. They will trot out the potential to cause injury line.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Absolute amateur hour by Tehan and the club.

 

[Iceman!]

100%. They will trot out the potential to cause injury line.

Which is funny because anyone not completely head ****ed can see that the impact had 0 potential for injury.

 

[smish]

Each year I’m more and more disillusioned with the AFL. Just self fellating backslappers ripping the integrity out of the sport that is Aussie Rules.

Is this our punishment for the racism report? It’s hard to think otherwise.

 

[Simon Crawshay]

We always hire the most incompetent lawyers.
McGrath admission disallowed twice? Get an Essendon medical report.
Say the force behind the kick had no potential for harm without providing any wiggle room.
Bring up like 10 videos of similar kicking incidents where other players only received fines.

I'm surprised they didn't go down the path of reasonable act of self defence.

It's crystal clear from the vision that McGrath lined Sic up and was planning on flattening him.

 

[Stranglers]

Each year I’m more and more disillusioned with the AFL. Just self fellating backslappers ripping the integrity out of the sport that is Aussie Rules.

Is this our punishment for the racism report? It’s hard to think otherwise.

Unfortunately, I think this is just them warming up.

 

[Sixpence]

Absolute amateur hour by Tehan and the club.

Wouldn't matter, the AFL's arguments are nonsensical, yet the tribunal will still side with them. It's fixed.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Have to wonder if they’d allow McGrath to give evidence if it wasn’t already known it would support Sicily.

And didn’t see any mention of the medical report in Zita’s tweets.

Ban will be upheld.

I don’t think we even attempted to table it.
Our lawyer argued about as good as our goal kicking on Saturday.