List Mgmt. Jeremy Cameron traded to Geelong

[Reppie]

Correct in what way?

Match winning tall forward

 

[Stokey]

Match winning tall forward

Stoneham's problem though was it was never the right matches.

I saw Barry at the College Lawn before I went to the Prelim and was unsure if it was a good omen or a bad one.

 

[Reppie]

Stoneham's problem though was it was never the right matches.

You want to blame him for that really.

 

[Stokey]

You want to blame him for that really.

It wasn't just him.
And I'm not blaming

 

[Reppie]

It wasn't just him.
And I'm not blaming

I saw him win many a game by himself.

 

[Stokey]

I saw him win many a game by himself.

As did I

 

[Reppie]

As did I

As did GAS had the ability in one quarter to turn a game.

 

[Cursed Cat]

Said at the time he'd be our new Barry Stoneham...i was correct.

1 more flag and he's in the conversation for our best ever CHF. Big shoes to fill.

 

[Stokey]

1 more flag and he's in the conversation for our best ever CHF. Big shoes to fill.

I'm not sure Barry has another flag in him.

 

[Cursed Cat]

I'm not sure Barry has another flag in him.

he'd have been happy with one!

 

[Warhorse]

It was a poorly handled trade by Geelong. Wells nearly walked. It caused a lot of fighting amongst the list management/recruiting team. It has worked out but we could have ended up with a much better deal.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Expecting a child now

How many games till will can claim F/s?

61 games to go. Should get there by 2025 if no major injuries.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It was a poorly handled trade by Geelong. Wells nearly walked. It caused a lot of fighting amongst the list management/recruiting team. It has worked out but we could have ended up with a much better deal.

Not really unless we tried to walk him through the draft with a huge price on his head and that wouldnt have worked another club would have taken him before us. Theres no other realistic option we had.

Besides we probably would have used the picks on henry and bruhn and we are about to get them anyway.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The picks we gave away for Cameron dropped to picks 15,18 & 23 on draft day. We got back 2 second rounders 30 & 31.
Equivalent points
15. 1112.
18. 985
23. 815

30 629
31. 606

Out. 2912
In. 1235

Overall Cost: 1687

This is equivalent to pick 7.
A great trade that is often reported as three first round picks without analysing it further. Cheaper than May, Lever, Dylan Shiel, Adam Treloar and others.

It was actually 32 and 34 (after compos)which we got back which we traded for p25 last year (mitch knevitt). But yeah you are pretty much right.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Not really unless we tried to walk him through the draft with a huge price on his head and that wouldnt have worked another club would have taken him before us. Theres no other realistic option we had.

Besides we probably would have used the picks on henry and bruhn and we are about to get them anyway.

It was interesting reading recently that the trade went through after the deadline. Had to get AFL approval for for trade to be processed as the deadline had passed.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

The 2nd back got us Willis I think, who I'm certain will be banging down the door next year with an uninterrupted pre-season.

2nd became knevitt. Willis was our normal r2 not the ones we got from the giants.

Clark got us conway and the 2 cameron r2s got us knevitt.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It was interesting reading recently that the trade went through after the deadline. Had to get AFL approval for for trade to be processed as the deadline had passed.

Yeah i think it was because they were waiting on the caldwell to ess deal which went through very late (one of the r2s we got was from ess) so obviously the trade was agreed by both clubs but paperwork wasnt fully lodged in time so afl gave an extension.

 

[Warhorse]

Not really unless we tried to walk him through the draft with a huge price on his head and that wouldnt have worked another club would have taken him before us. Theres no other realistic option we had.

Besides we probably would have used the picks on henry and bruhn and we are about to get them anyway.

We tried to price GWS out of it and it didn't work

 

[Pure_Ownage]

We tried to price GWS out of it and it didn't work

To price them out of it we would have had to offer him 1.2mil a year or more and we were never going to do that.

 

[catscratchfever]

Said at the time he'd be our new Barry Stoneham...i was correct.

Jezza is 10x the player Stoneham ever was, especially after Stoneham broke his leg.

For the last 5 years of his career Stoneham was rubbish - he'd have his 1 or 2 games per season when he kick 3-4 goals but the rest of the time he averaged about 4 kicks and 3 marks per game (or at least it sure felt like it). One of my least favourite Geelong players of all time - overrated, arrogant and a rabid Tory.

 

[Mr Meow]

It was a poorly handled trade by Geelong. Wells nearly walked. It caused a lot of fighting amongst the list management/recruiting team. It has worked out but we could have ended up with a much better deal.

Do you think the risk we took was worth it?

 

[Shadow89]

Need Jez to play at least another 61 in the hoops for his kids to be father-son eligible.

Will do that easily - is contracted until 2025, and will likely play another 1-2 years after that, such is his athletic/not overly contested profile

 

[Warhorse]

Do you think the risk we took was worth it?

It got us a flag. Doesn't mean anything I said was incorrect.

 

[catempire]

Western Bulldogs supporters used to say that about Boyd and all it got them next was a humiliating defeat in the 2021 grand final, you know as the saying goes 1 in the hand in worth three in the bush... we could have had three in the bush with though we would have lost the two smaller bushes a year later so its getting a little confusing on how to value it.

I'd say the break even is 2 flags as Cameron should be > than Boyd.

Prefer the flag in the bush.

 

[Mr Meow]

It got us a flag. Doesn't mean anything I said was incorrect.

If you were in Wells shoes, what would be the final trade you offered? How would it have been better? Where did Geelong finish now and in 2023 in such a scenario? How much improved were 2024-2028 going to be?