Scandal Joel Smith (Melbourne): Cocaine trafficking accusation

[Chief]

Trafficking Accusation:

Scandal - Joel Smith (Melbourne): Cocaine trafficking accusation

Trafficking Accusation: https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/joel-smith-melbourne-cocaine-trafficking-accusation.1373812/post-82421629 MFC and AFL Statements: Melbourne Football Club Media Statement – Joel Smith The Melbourne Football Club has been advised by the AFL that further...

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MFC and AFL Statements:

Melbourne Football Club Media Statement – Joel Smith

The Melbourne Football Club has been advised by the AFL that further Anti-Doping Rule Violations have been asserted against Joel Smith by Sport Integrity Australia.

The Melbourne Football Club is not authorised to make public comment while this is an ongoing matter that is being investigated by Sport Integrity Australia.

It should be noted since the article has been published on the Herald Sun website, Joel’s management has contacted the Club on his behalf to advise that the comments made by the source within the article are not reflective of Joel’s views and the source is not speaking on any authority from Joel.

Joel has made it very clear that he has no issues or concerns with anyone at the Melbourne Football Club.

As the Club has previously stated, we will wait for the investigation to be completed before we update our supporters further.

AFL STATEMENT – JOEL SMITH

The AFL confirms that further Anti-Doping Rule Violations (ADRVs) have been asserted against Joel Smith of the Melbourne Football Club under the Australian Football Anti-Doping Code.

Sport Integrity Australia (SIA) has notified Smith that three ADRVs for “Trafficking or Attempted Trafficking” of Cocaine to third parties are asserted against him.

Under the Code, Trafficking in an anti-doping context is relevantly defined to be “Selling, giving, transporting, sending, delivering or distributing a Prohibited Substance, by an Athlete … to any third party [but] shall not include actions involving Prohibited Substances which are not prohibited in Out-of-Competition Testing unless the circumstances as a whole demonstrate such Prohibited Substances are not intended for genuine and legal therapeutic purposes or are intended to enhance sport performance” (Article 1 of the Code).

Further, SIA has notified Smith that an ADRV for Possession of a Prohibited Substance (Cocaine) on 9 September 2022 is asserted against him.

These ADRVs are in addition to that previously asserted against him (in connection with a sample provided by him after the match between Melbourne and Hawthorn on 20 August 2023 which tested positive to Cocaine and its metabolite, Benzoylecgonine).

Smith will continue to be provisionally suspended pending the finalisation of all of these matters, meaning he is not permitted to be part of Melbourne’s football program, including Melbourne’s pre-season training that is currently underway.

Under the Code, the new asserted ADRVs will be further investigated by SIA and these matters may ultimately be heard by an AFL Anti-Doping Tribunal in the coming months.

Due to the ongoing nature of the anti-doping process, the AFL and SIA are unable to make any further comment at this time.

 

[Caligo]

It doesn’t matter what anyone believes it to be or not to be, if WADA says it is, the most prudent thing to do as a professional athlete is to avoid it.

And in saying that you don’t think it’s a PE drug, it can cause cardiac issues when under extreme physical stress, to the point sportspeople have dropped dead whilst playing sport.

I am not denying that as a professional athlete you must follow the rules. Amazed that needs explaining.

 

[Chief]

I get that it is classified that way, but does anyone actually believe it would help you to play afl, or any other sport, better?

Can it be used to mask other drugs? In combination with other drugs? In small amounts to increase energy or concentration?

I think those sorts of things would also be considered. Don't know though.

 

[FuManchu]

I am not denying that as a professional athlete you must follow the rules. Amazed that needs explaining.

Don’t tell me, tell the clowns that like to risk take knowing full well that they could end up with a 4 year ban.

 

[Satan]

Is this a strike?
In a day of controversy, Carlton also revealed recruit Elijah Hollands had been served a notice to appear in court relating to the possession of an illicit substance. He was a Gold Coast player at the time and the Blues were made aware of the alleged transgression before they went through with trading him into the club to play alongside his brother.

The AFL integrity unit are conducting their own investigation with both clubs simultaneously releasing a statement just 24 hours after Hollands was traded to play alongside his brother Ollie Hollands at the Blues.

Source The Age

 

[Caligo]

Don’t tell me, tell the clowns that like to risk take knowing full well that they could end up with a 4 year ban.

I am telling you because your response had nothing to do with what I was saying.

Clearly I was saying that ASADA should focus on drugs that actually improve performance, and you come at me with irrelevant points about how players should follow the rules even if they are silly (which I never denied).

 

[Seadog]

An ex-premership player died not long after being visited by one the most scandalous players who has ever played in the AFL, who was also an ex-captain, who nearly died himself and who was involved in scandal after scandal that played out on TV and in public numerous times.

They also had a player flat line overseas. They have had a player jailed from burning down their parents home. Players present at nightclub shootings.

To say other clubs are having just as many issues is simply ridiculous. There is not 1 club in the AFL that hasnt had to manage or is managing recreational drug use with their players. Please don't make out the response to the Eagles issues from that area are at all comparable to today's events or any previously. The seriousness of the Eagles issues from that era are like nothing any AFL club has come close to.

Trying to debate this with Eagles supporters is a complete waste of time. The persecuction complex is far too overpowering.

Don't really wanna get into this shitfight but but Kerr hadn't been a player for around 8-10 years when he set fire to his parents house.
Is a football club responsible for everything a player does up until he dies however long that may be?

 

[BEEG]

Is this a strike?
In a day of controversy, Carlton also revealed recruit Elijah Hollands had been served a notice to appear in court relating to the possession of an illicit substance. He was a Gold Coast player at the time and the Blues were made aware of the alleged transgression before they went through with trading him into the club to play alongside his brother.

The AFL integrity unit are conducting their own investigation with both clubs simultaneously releasing a statement just 24 hours after Hollands was traded to play alongside his brother Ollie Hollands at the Blues.

Source The Age

He was holding it for Oliver.

 

[deck]

I genuinely can't imagine that, but I accept I appear to be in the minority.

I'm with you. I can't see it as anything other than reducing your performance. Quick decision making would be awful.

 

[Satan]

He was holding it for Oliver.

Have you evidence?

 

[deck]

Can it be used to mask other drugs?

I don't believe coke is. But the funny thing is most athletes caught for performance enhancing drugs get caught for the masking agent not the performance enhancing drug.

 

[ThirtyFive]

I am telling you because your response had nothing to do with what I was saying.

Clearly I was saying that ASADA should focus on drugs that actually improve performance, and you come at me with irrelevant points about how players should follow the rules even if they are silly (which I never denied).

I think people get bogged down in the belief that the WADA code is formulated purely to catch out athletes trying to improve their performance. That’s part of it, but, it’s also in place to stop/educate idiots from killing themselves. We go through this process every year with our playing group. It’s mind blowing just how little they know. Or, what they think they know.

 

[FuManchu]

Don't really wanna get into this shitfight but but Kerr hadn't been a player for around 8-10 years when he set fire to his parents house.
Is a football club responsible for everything a player does up until he dies however long that may be?

The cops went to the club in the late 90s and told them of the drug use by players.

Ken Judge went to the board and gave them an ultimatum about some of those players and they chose those players over him.

Well publicised behaviours were let to ride without club sanction……. so you get heavily involved in that environment where consequence are deliberately avoided because it could jeopardise team success…… you build a mindset in some that they can go through life outside that football environment where they feel they are still not subject to the consequences we expect.

So yes. A football club can be partly responsible for things that happen. Especially when your pharmacist coach, who is well aware of the behaviours and the medical consequences, considers it not important enough to do his utmost to stop it, once again because team success is more important to him than his moral and professional obligations as a pharmacist.

 

[HairyO]

Are you high ???

How many Tour de Frances does Armstrong have?

If a single person in a relay team gets done the entire team get disqualified and have to hand back their medals.

Game day drug tests involving ASADA surely its the same? Give us our 4 points !!

Also, what is the deal with Melbourne and drugs? Think they are West Coast or something?

 

[Caligo]

I think people get bogged down in the belief that the WADA code is formulated purely to catch out athletes trying to improve their performance. That’s part of it, but, it’s also in place to stop/educate idiots from killing themselves. We go through this process every year with our playing group. It’s mind blowing just how little they know. Or, what they think they know.

I get bogged down in it because I tried to be a professional athlete and I was beaten on multiple occasions by people who were taking PEDs.

If you played a sport where PEDs were rife you know how frustrating it is. AFL and NRL and RU have done a good job keeping it relatively low. Swimming and cycling are just awful though.

 

[Seadog]

The cops went to the club in the late 90s and told them of the drug use by players.

Ken Judge went to the board and gave them an ultimatum about some of those players and they chose those players over him.

Well publicised behaviours were let to ride without club sanction……. so you get heavily involved in that environment where consequence are deliberately avoided because it could jeopardise team success…… you build a mindset in some that they can go through life outside that football environment where they feel they are still not subject to the consequences we expect.

So yes. A football club can be partly responsible for things that happen. Especially when your pharmacist coach, who is well aware of the behaviours and the medical consequences, considers it not important enough to do his utmost to stop it, once again because team success is more important to him than his moral and professional obligations as a pharmacist.

So you are saying Geelong FC is partially responsible for the overdosed death of a young woman. Wowee.

 

[FuManchu]

So you are saying Geelong FC is partially responsible for the overdosed death of a young woman. Wowee.

Depends if they knew about his rampant drug taking and did nothing to pull him up……. . I know a little bit more about that too…….. he definitely was a glutton and very public about it. If you knew who his brother was, you’d would be a bit more understanding of how far back it went!

 

[Orange Agent]

There are multiple examples of soccer players failing tests and receiving bans yet the team results still stand. Sorry mate, suck it up.

 

[garlic munchers]

How many Tour de Frances does Armstrong have?

If a single person in a relay team gets done the entire team get disqualified and have to hand back their medals.

Game day drug tests involving ASADA surely its the same? Give us our 4 points !!

Also, what is the deal with Melbourne and drugs? Think they are West Coast or something?

EFA: "Also, what is the deal with Melbourne clubs and drugs/sex tapes/betting scandals/dick picks/nude picture's etc?

One thing the Vic boys have the rest of the country well and truly uncovered on, is they sure love getting around each other and taking pictures of each others wangs.

Maybe its a lack of sunlight thing?

 

[Jimthegreat]

Wait, why is this news? I assumed this would happen semi-regularly and the player would simply receive a strike.

WADA charge, not AFL, as it is match day. Bit more than a strike.

 

[HairyO]

There are multiple examples of soccer players failing tests and receiving bans yet the team results still stand. Sorry mate, suck it up.

Good to know the AFL is on par with the most corrupt team sport in the world.

 

[Jimthegreat]

I'm with you. I can't see it as anything other than reducing your performance. Quick decision making would be awful.

Exact opposite hence on WADA Prohibited List on match day. Not for out of competition though, just match day.

Improved performance 4 hours after cocaine - PubMed

Cocaine (2 mg/kg) was given orally to 13 healthy volunteers and physiologic, subjective, attentional and performance effects were measured over a period of 4 h. Posner's reaction time paradigm measured the effects of cocaine on performance and on attention to visual cues. Cocaine increased heart...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[FuManchu]

WADA charge, not AFL, as it is match day. Bit more than a strike.

I would imagine a WADA suspension would automatically trigger an AFL strike. But that strike unless it’s a 3rd strike would be like being attacked with a wet tram ticket.

 

[TakingThePies]

By the time they deal with this he'd been suspended for 8 weeks, take that off your 4 month band he'll get and it's 2.

Moving on.

 

[the avoca drover]

Does Max have room for one more under his roof?

He’s going to have to build an extension to fit them all in.

 

[PiesUserName]

From the sounds of it, seems like this is also Maynard's fault...