Leagues Keeper Fantasy - BigFooty Premier League (Dynasty) - Season 1

[Zim^zuM]

www.keeperfantasy.com

Category scoring.

Score
Kicks
Marks
Handballs
Hit Outs
Tackles
Spoils
Contested Marks
Clearances

We operate as a “dynasty” league that mirrors the AFL. with squads of 44.

Rules: We Follow the functions allowed on the website. No tanking lol.


Confirmed coaches

Zim^zuM Lolern Bulldogs
Wise Guy Sam Boston Terriers
flaps Wanderers
Northern Dogs Puppy Power 3
Matthew Jelley Knights of the Forbidden Category KOTFC
Jeremias Jeremias
clivenator26 Days of our Clive’s
Citizen Erazed Pink Pigs
deeman87 Cape York Crocodiles
weltschmerz Broady Bin Chickens
Barrybran Excelerators
Bowski Rushall Mews
Deadly Darcy Five Angry Marmosets
Cro19 Cro19

 

[deeman87]

Should we do a snake draft for the first draft or traditional and just cop the good/bad luck?

(Snake draft for those that don’t know means if you get pick 1 your next pick will be the last pick of the next round, so 28. If you get pick 14 your next pick would be 15, the first of the next round).

snake for sure for the inaugural draft, at least imho

 

[Deadly Darcy]

Nah just wait for the site.

X2. Way too much hassle to do a manual and we save about 2 weeks?

 

[Northern Dogs]

snake for sure for the inaugural draft, at least imho

Yea, I agree on Snake Draft. We want to keep teams as even as possible for 1st season to avoid coaches dropping off in interest.

 

[Zim^zuM]

snake for sure for the inaugural draft, at least imho

Has to be snake. Has to be slow so we don't have half sides auto picked and rushed. We want a pure even comp where everyone has had the chance to make their choice

 

[weltschmerz]

Snake draft definitely

 

[Matthew Jelley]

I'm also in agreeance for snake draft
Has squad sizes, field positions and amount of keepers been decided?

 

[Wise Guy Sam]

Just my ideas to help drive the conversation. Any thoughts or changes welcome. I’ve considered balance with the scoring but this isn’t a strength of mine so put forward your ideas or concerns.

Squad: 14 teams with 44 players
Positions: 22 on the field. 6 defenders, 5 mids, 1 ruck, 6 forwards and 4 utility’s. No captains scoring double
Draft: Snake initially then normal going forward
Scoring: categories.
Score 2
Disposals 2
Marks 1
Hit outs 2
Tackles 2
Clearances 2
Disposal efficiency 1
Contested marks 2
Spoils 1
Total 15 points

From standard rules combining kicks and handballs to disposals but weighting of 2.

Tackles changes momentum so weighted to 2.

Contested marks and marks both included. This rewards KPP more but still gives your outside players and HB some value. Meanwhile your full back or CHF gets 3 points per contested mark (as he also gets a point from a mark).

No free kick categories as these are really hard to build a list around and are very random. I suggest we keep to a standard 9 cats. Could do free kick
Differential if people wanted it.

Spoils help out the key defenders more but weighted at 1 point. Take a mark you putz.

Clearances at 2 as it’s a really important stat in AFL but 1 point might help keep balance across more positions.

Disposal efficiency at 1. Often the team with better disposal wins but not always.

15 points (want a odd number to limit draws) in total. Need 8 points to win.

Thoughts?

 

[Northern Dogs]

Just my ideas to help drive the conversation. Any thoughts or changes welcome. I’ve considered balance with the scoring but this isn’t a strength of mine so put forward your ideas or concerns.

Squad: 14 teams with 44 players
Positions: 22 on the field. 6 defenders, 5 mids, 1 ruck, 6 forwards and 4 utility’s. No captains scoring double
Draft: Snake initially then normal going forward
Scoring: categories.
Score 2
Disposals 2
Marks 1
Hit outs 2
Tackles 2
Clearances 2
Disposal efficiency 1
Contested marks 2
Spoils 1
Total 15 points

From standard rules combining kicks and handballs to disposals but weighting of 2.

Tackles changes momentum so weighted to 2.

Contested marks and marks both included. This rewards KPP more but still gives your outside players and HB some value. Meanwhile your full back or CHF gets 3 points per contested mark (as he also gets a point from a mark).

No free kick categories as these are really hard to build a list around and are very random. I suggest we keep to a standard 9 cats. Could do free kick
Differential if people wanted it.

Spoils help out the key defenders more but weighted at 1 point. Take a mark you putz.

Clearances at 2 as it’s a really important stat in AFL but 1 point might help keep balance across more positions.

Disposal efficiency at 1. Often the team with better disposal wins but not always.

15 points (want a odd number to limit draws) in total. Need 8 points to win.

Thoughts?

I like your thoughts on squad size, draft and scoring. All sound pretty good to me. Just on positions though, I think it may work better having only 5 defenders, but making 6 midfielder, keeping total on field the same at 22. In the existing leagues, we always seem to be scratching around for defenders while midfielder are a dime a dozen. Also, 1 emergency for each of the five positions to be named each week to cover for late withdrawals.

 

[Zim^zuM]

I like your thoughts on squad size, draft and scoring. All sound pretty good to me. Just on positions though, I think it may work better having only 5 defenders, but making 6 midfielder, keeping total on field the same at 22. In the existing leagues, we always seem to be scratching around for defenders while midfielder are a dime a dozen. Also, 1 emergency for each of the five positions to be named each week to cover for late withdrawals.

I think that's why adding categories like spoils and contested marks helps. Real AFL squads post 6 backs, 5 mids, 6 fwds, a ruck and 4 interchange. So I'd keep it as Wise Guy Sam said.

All I'd really change is still keep kicks and HBs as separate categories. Add some spice when teams have handball happy players.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Oh also I'd have score weighted more than others. Scores ultimately decide games. Don't think we should weight it as much as HO. In fact I'd probably put everything at 1 to make them all super important. And maybe score at 2 to help eliminate draws.

 

[Zim^zuM]

Maybe during multi bye rounds we can edit the lineup. Take 1 off each line

 

[Northern Dogs]

Maybe during multi bye rounds we can edit the lineup. Take 1 off each line

I do like this idea, as it would reduce the number of donuts for these rounds.
Also we need to decide on player pool swaps allowed. I don't mind on 0, 5, or 10 during the season, as long as there in some restriction. If there is no restriction, the obvious tactic would be to have say 15 or so key players named each week and then top up with players whose team are playing Richmond the following week.

 

[Citizen Erazed]

I have never done weighted categories before, only standard so hard to comment without seeing it in action. Seems good on paper though.

I wonder if instead of having two mark categories, do standard marks and add score assists would open up the player pool a bit? Maybe bump up small forwards a bit more?

But I am happy with the consensus.

 

[Zim^zuM]

We should weight them in a way where scores end up 100-80 giving it a more realistic feel. So instead of 1 as the unit use 10, 20.

In

 

[deeman87]

We should weight them in a way where scores end up 100-80 giving it a more realistic feel. So instead of 1 as the unit use 10, 20.

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what an interesting idea.

 

[deeman87]

Just my ideas to help drive the conversation. Any thoughts or changes welcome. I’ve considered balance with the scoring but this isn’t a strength of mine so put forward your ideas or concerns.

Squad: 14 teams with 44 players
Positions: 22 on the field. 6 defenders, 5 mids, 1 ruck, 6 forwards and 4 utility’s. No captains scoring double
Draft: Snake initially then normal going forward
Scoring: categories.
Score 2
Disposals 2
Marks 1
Hit outs 2
Tackles 2
Clearances 2
Disposal efficiency 1
Contested marks 2
Spoils 1
Total 15 points

From standard rules combining kicks and handballs to disposals but weighting of 2.

Tackles changes momentum so weighted to 2.

Contested marks and marks both included. This rewards KPP more but still gives your outside players and HB some value. Meanwhile your full back or CHF gets 3 points per contested mark (as he also gets a point from a mark).

No free kick categories as these are really hard to build a list around and are very random. I suggest we keep to a standard 9 cats. Could do free kick
Differential if people wanted it.

Spoils help out the key defenders more but weighted at 1 point. Take a mark you putz.

Clearances at 2 as it’s a really important stat in AFL but 1 point might help keep balance across more positions.

Disposal efficiency at 1. Often the team with better disposal wins but not always.

15 points (want a odd number to limit draws) in total. Need 8 points to win.

Thoughts?

Not a fan of collapsing kicks, handballs into disposals. Also not sure about weighting contested marks like that, i get the making key positions relevant but not to this extreme. Mids and disposal pigs should still be important.

 

[deeman87]

What about...

Goals & Behinds (SCORE) - 2

Goal Accuracy (G%) - 1

Kicks (KI) - 1

Handballs (HB) - 1

Marks (MA) 1

Hitouts (HO) 1

Tackles (TK) 1

Disposal Efficiency (D%) - 1

Contested Marks (CM) -1

Rebound 50s (R50) - 1

Spoils (SP) - 1

Just weighting score double every other cat and adding in contested marks means key fwds are relevant. Rebound 50s, spoils make key backs relevant.

(Can be edited for zims idea if we wanna weight them at 10 points per cat to get more realistic scores)

 

[Matthew Jelley]

I like this, takes away the issues for when teams to stockpile rucks hey deeman87

What about...

Goals & Behinds (SCORE) - 2

Goal Accuracy (G%) - 1

Kicks (KI) - 1

Handballs (HB) - 1

Marks (MA) 1

Hitouts (HO) 1

Tackles (TK) 1

Disposal Efficiency (D%) - 1

Contested Marks (CM) -1

Rebound 50s (R50) - 1

Spoils (SP) - 1

Just weighting score double every other cat and adding in contested marks means key fwds are relevant. Rebound 50s, spoils make key backs relevant.

(Can be edited for zims idea if we wanna weight them at 10 points per cat to get more realistic scores)

 

[deeman87]

I like this, takes away the issues for when teams to stockpile rucks hey deeman87

How dare teams stockpile 3 or 4 1st rucks, so selfish, I'd never engage in such behaviour.

 

[Citizen Erazed]

What about...

Goals & Behinds (SCORE) - 2

Goal Accuracy (G%) - 1

Kicks (KI) - 1

Handballs (HB) - 1

Marks (MA) 1

Hitouts (HO) 1

Tackles (TK) 1

Disposal Efficiency (D%) - 1

Contested Marks (CM) -1

Rebound 50s (R50) - 1

Spoils (SP) - 1

Just weighting score double every other cat and adding in contested marks means key fwds are relevant. Rebound 50s, spoils make key backs relevant.

(Can be edited for zims idea if we wanna weight them at 10 points per cat to get more realistic scores)

I don't understand the idea of weighting at 10 per category, but the categories themselves look good.

 

[Zim^zuM]

I don't understand the idea of weighting at 10 per category, but the categories themselves look good.

It's just for optics lol. Real afl games don't finish 4-5.

But 100-70 feels more real

 

[deeman87]

I don't understand the idea of weighting at 10 per category, but the categories themselves look good.

Just to make the scores look like real life scores, regardless the important part is the categories and their weighting vs other cats.

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Looking for 1 more coach for a brand new AFL category based Draft Keeper league in a 14 team league based in the brand new KeeperAFL platform (created by the original developer of Ultimate Footy site.) Will need to sign up at keeperfantasy.com to enable invite to be sent. (free to join)

Any interest Geary Is GOAT malteaser

First in to reply here gets to participate. Draft date to be advised for around 44 / 45 players (tbd).

If there's still space I'll jump in! Otherwise let me know if someone drops out.

 

[Citizen Erazed]

If the commish needs a hand with just the league creation and invites and stuff, let me know. I literally work most of the day on a PC and am happy to prioritise over actual work to get the pre-draft stuff in place

 

[Northern Dogs]

If there's still space I'll jump in! Otherwise let me know if someone drops out.

The space has been filled, but we'll put tou on the list for 3 leagues now that are currently operating.
Wise Guy Sam