Past Kurt Tippett - retired 2018

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BloodySwan said:
It's funny but any children Tippett may have would be eligible to Adelaide as a father-son but not the Swans. I feel like it'd be one of the rare times a club would reject the draftee
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I still worry we are paying for his children as well as subsidising his ... ahem... esteemed ... role as part time ruck coach at the GoCo.
 
Slingshot Footy said:
Do you work at the Crows? Legit question if you're offering picks and players as if you're Justin Reid.
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He’s just a complete idiot.
Don’t mind him, we aren’t all like him.
 
robbieando said:
I’m sure that took place, but the entire league (club, media and the bloody league itself) knew about it. Blame your club for that act of brilliance.



Your “Gentleman’s” agreement with Tippett’s management was that you would trade Tippett for a second round pick if he asked to be traded. He asked to be traded. Still we offered a 1st Round Pick and a Key Position Player that we ended up trading for a second round pick a year later anyway. We offered far more than what was in the “Gentleman’s” agreement. You would have a point if we actually offered a 2nd Round Pick.
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ah look, every village has them and a couple of ours have obviously escaped

Tippett himself isn’t a very sympathetic character, but this isn’t his doing.

he wanted to go to Gold Coast under their original concessions where he could pre-sign a year out. We begged him not to, and threw a crazy (rule breaking) deal at him.

that moment the die was cast. It was our idea, it was stupid and worst of all it stitched our fortunes to a player (and his representatives) of less than the highest probity. What could go wrong?!?

that contract gave him the right to be the first virtual free agent before free agency came in. It gave him the option to shop himself not just to Gold Coast, but anyone. So he did

we were stupid to give anyone that sort of option, let alone him, and he was incentivised to screw us. So of course he did.

we believed he wouldn’t want to leave what we were building, and we believed that by ignoring the law of unintended consequences and because we didn’t understand how powerful that option we gave him was. He did.

so of course he went to market

and you guys bit.

not your fault, you didn’t do the deal.

BUT you did try and take advantage. Perhaps fairly too, I might argue you almost had a fiduciary duty to your club and supporters to drive a bus right through that window of opportunity. But anyway

however by this stage rumours were wildfire throughout the league, about this clause and all the OTHER shenanigans our polluted administration pulled with this deal.

so you need to appear innocent whilst also trying to maximise this unique advantage presented to you by him choosing you. If anyone believes the Tippett camp didn’t consider other teams you crazy, but you guys won his signature.

so to put people off the scent you offered much more than the clause specified, and much less than he was worth. It was a fine line, because if the clause is discovered then all bets are off, and you lose this magnificent opportunity. So you have to act like you don’t know about it, whilst holding back enough to benefit from it

your offer is so obviously below value, but suspiciously more than the rumoured clause that it makes no sense. Your offer attracts the attention of AFL House, and they step in and say they will not approve it. It fails the smell test

so yeah, your offer brought the house down. By that time though, nothing you could have done would have worked. There was no path through

the only way through, which wasn’t an option, was to pay Tippett his kings ransom and full market value. BUT what is your incentive to do that? Why would you pay twice?

in modern terms you were being asked to pay a full unrestricted FA salary, and a full trade value to acquire him. The only reason you had interest in him, at the contract price you offered, was the unprecedented opportunity to get him cheap.

you were not innocent but there was a reason the league chose to punish everyone else but you guys

you did try to take advantage, you did twist the knife, you did know all about it - what’s not clear is whether you really did all that much wrong.

So yeah of course our gurning idiots would like to strike back, but the blame is ours

and as for Tippett himself, caveat emptor!!!!! 😇
 

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ABAB said:
No, it was back to either GCS or Lions if he wanted to return home but he did a very quick dash for cash to Sydney and wasn't that pick 18 and White so what is wrong with us offering you guys pick 23 and Frampton/Himmelberg and we aren't even offering Dawson 4 years at $1M per year but reportedly 5 years at $600K per year.
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Frampton is no good.
Dawson is 24 and just finished 3rd in b and f.
 
Grand Uncle Horace said:
Can someone please guarantee we are still not paying that campaigner?
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I thought that ended last year, but not 100%

Tippett is our worst recruitment decision of the last 20 years imo. The last one was whatever the carey/ longmire decision was (I don't know the specifics though).

We weren't to know buddy would come knocking, but in hindsight, it was the tippett contract that hamstrung the club to this day.
 
GoTheSwannies said:
I thought that ended last year, but not 100%

Tippett is our worst recruitment decision of the last 20 years imo. The last one was whatever the carey/ longmire decision was (I don't know the specifics though).

We weren't to know buddy would come knocking, but in hindsight, it was the tippett contract that hamstrung the club to this day.
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plus he was a useless campaigner.
 
Kurt still has one of the best goals I've ever seen a big man kick

2nd goal in this video:



To pick it up low so cleanly in those conditions, fake a handball, step around a defender and snap from 45 with a heavy ball is frankly ridiculous.
 
scaryness said:
Kurt still has one of the best goals I've ever seen a big man kick

2nd goal in this video:



To pick it up low so cleanly in those conditions, fake a handball, step around a defender and snap from 45 with a heavy ball is frankly ridiculous.
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Injuries cost us the best of Tippett

And I refuse to told otherwise
 
scaryness said:
Kurt still has one of the best goals I've ever seen a big man kick

2nd goal in this video:



To pick it up low so cleanly in those conditions, fake a handball, step around a defender and snap from 45 with a heavy ball is frankly ridiculous.
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He generally had a really good 2013. If he hadn't gone down in the Semi Final and we generally had a little more luck with injury that year, we might view his career at the Swans far more favourably than we do.
 

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