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At Freo with no talls he kicked 30-33ish goals a year. Kossie kicked 35-40ish in a similar setup, both put huge pressure on.
He’s better than Shultz and super important to Melbourne but he’s not top midfielder level.
Very rarely do you see players want out for multiple years in a row and not get their wish. Just the same as rarely seeing AFL players like opposition clubs posts so much. JHF was probably the last that made the news I can remember.
It is, in the same way that it is for Kozzy, small forwards need to pressure nowadays
Shoota built that game, he was more of a leadup small to start with though, you generally don't hang around very long as a small forward doing that though
If you thought he was a pure defensive forward then nah, he was actually pretty close to goals scored compared to Kozzy at his last couple of years with us, had an average year in the Pies new system though. The major difference between the two are, Kozzy is more skilful and Kozzy has been doing it since year 2 consistently, Shoota took a while to find his feet and consistency wasn't there this year, Kozzy is also younger.
The majority of small forwards, their role is to provide pressure. Look at the Lions, McCarthy, Ah Chee and Lohmann, they're first priority is to pressure the opposition and play a defensive role. Goals will come on the back of that.
Cameron is the only small, who played as a lead up or target forward. And that changed in the second half of this year, where he went back to a more defensive role.
Kosi is a very good, defensive small forward. But that's all he is.
This is the comment i was initially responding to. My point was that was underselling him.
This is the comment i was initially responding to. My point was that was underselling him.
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Can't see the dees letting him go while contracted. They have refused to trade Oliver, Petty and Petracca in the last couple of years when they wanted out, plus Pickett has already tested the waters and been told he won't be traded before.
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I do agree that Brayshaw has more influences over games but the 'that's all he is' line just shows where you've missed the mark. If you want a quality small fwd, you have to pick them in the 1st round. They're worth gold. Guys like Watson, Pickett, Weightman, Kako..all first rounders.
Brayshaw also couldn't play small fwd...
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times have changed. and you just proved it. Generally speaking if you want a gun small fwd, it's a first rounder and not a late first rounder either.
Pickett will have to get stroppy. Most clubs (see Port re Houston) will bend to the managers if forced.
Otherwise I totally agree, Dees will just keep him and rightly so.
You will always get late or rookie picks for any position that can turn out great players.
But it’s been more common in recent years to pick small forwards early. Invaluable when you get one like Kozzy in the team.
But it’s been more common in recent years to pick small forwards early. Invaluable when you get one like Kozzy in the team.
Charlie Cameron would have kicked the most goals as a small forward in the comp in the last 5 years, so not sure how that proved your point? Quite the opposite.
Stengle? Rookied, traded, cut, rookied....AA small forward 2 seasons ago.
Dylan Moore was AA last year, 4th rounder.
Brent Daniels, late 2nd.
Shai Bolton was also a late 2nd.
I was amazed Houston went for so little. Port folded big time. Dees seem to stick firm and I think will reluctantly trade Kozzy for the right deal. Player managers have too much power these days and can see clubs pushing back a bit more.
Most of the early picks on small forwards have midfield aspirations though and have a lot of X factor. Kozzy has this but probably isn't as good in the midfield as say a Bolton. Others like Rachele haven't come on in that department at all.
I think he's in the ball park of what Bolton was worth but it also depends on how the year pans out and the currency available. Trades are usually within 20% of the true value but sometimes that is as close as it can get to.
I think you are not taking into account the power of player managers these days. You can only say no for so long until a relationship is fractured. The clubs don't want that.
i think you are not taking into account how stubborn MFC is.
Agree with this. Dees don’t have a recent history of folding in deals. Also to player managers trying to get their man out. Also it depends on the manager I think Connors Sports can be one of the ones that have a good record of moving players. Kozzy isn’t with them as it stands.
Who is Kozzy with? Sometimes they have to let a disgruntled player walk due to bigger names in the stable or new targets. Not quite Colin Young levels for other managers but there can be an external pressure not related to the leverage between the teams.
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Hear he's been looking at holiday houses in a suburb called Applecross
Fine, If you insist
I'd be pretty happy with that outcome.
Not a Kossie fan TBH.
If the clubs were smart they would each pick their man and not drive the prices up bidding against each other.
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WC will go hard for both, and I wouldn't be surprised if they land them as they should have huge salary cap space as of 2026 onwards
