Recommitted Lachie Neale [OOC 2023 - Will honour his contract]

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[pulpdriver]

Completely 100% true - The issue most Freo fans have though is that we’ve spent 2 of the last 3 drafts replacing Neale since he left (Brayshaw and Serong) and are now well stocked for inside mids.

We are now desperate for a forward line, most supporters would be happy with your 65% chance of a half decent forward!
If Neale hadn’t of left we probably would have drafted Oscar Allen or Naughton and have a lot more balanced looking list.

If we get him back at the cost of drafting forwards this year it may derail any chance we have of competing seriously in the next 5 years so

Future first or stay in Brisbane. The Lions poached him in contract to start, they can sort it out with him now.


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Both Naughton and Allen were drafted the year before Lachie was traded so he has no relevance to you missing those players. You had two picks in the top 5 and you could have taken Naughton but took two midfielders, Brayshaw and Cerra. The year Lachie was traded you went for a forward, you traded in Hogan. You could have drafted Ben King with that pick. I don't think Lachie leaving is related to any current forward line woes for Freo. Just a bit of bad luck.

 

[tonygeeks]

I understand the second point, but why do you think the first point is? It usually just simply doesn't work. Don't just look at teams that have won flags in recent times, look at the other teams that have competed.

I hope it works for Freo because I would love to see them break their drought, but I wouldn't be holding my breath.

Pressure builds and people start making decisions based on keeping their jobs rather than what’s best for the club

I’m not anti trade but Lachie is not one I would make at all

If he was FA he would be great


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[Mesc]

If the club has moved on why are they interested in getting him back?

I didnt see the report mentioning Fremantle want him back ? got a link ?

 

[SSwans2011]

Pressure builds and people start making decisions based on keeping their jobs rather than what’s best for the club

I’m not anti trade but Lachie is not one I would make at all

If he was FA he would be great

Yeah, that's fair enough. I just look at clubs like Richmond with Prestia, Hawthorn with Frawley, McEvoy, Lake, and so on, and even the Bulldogs with Boyd, and it seems invariably some of the more important players to Premiership tilts are those brought in from other clubs.

I get why you wouldn't want Neale, hence why I said I can understand why both parties wouldn't be interested in the trade, was just noting that a combination of draft and recruiting from other clubs has been important for finals and flags tilts. What Brisbane would want would make more sense for a team that sees themselves competing for a flag next year though, so I can understand your POV.

 

[iBeng]

Pressure builds and people start making decisions based on keeping their jobs rather than what’s best for the club

I’m not anti trade but Lachie is not one I would make at all

If he was FA he would be great


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Breaking news, fan of footy club would prefer to get good player for significantly reduced cost to club.

More at 6

 

[RoyBoy17]

A perfect example of different strokes for different folks. It's the exact opposite for us. The big name recruits have rarely worked out for us.

I think it works. It’s just that you picked the wrong players. Some you mentioned had big off field question marks that the club knew about. It’s about balance at the end of the day. Whose to say pick 6 and 8 don’t cry and go home after two years whether it’s the lions or freo? Cerra isn’t leaving because of the culture. I think that’s why freo supporters are over rating the value of draft picks (can draft a WA boy that is predicted to go 10-25) with pick 14 and nab Neale. Even if they are good it’s so hard to keep hold of them. I also think Fremantle has shown enough to suggest they should really be making the 8 next year and you guys underrate your list. It comes with being burnt most years I guess. How many good young players do you need? I mean if Melbourne can dominate the league with that forward line of battlers (Pickett and Fritsch aside) then why can’t freo contend next year with a healthy list and the addition of Neale and Fyfe still at his best/ Mundy still around? You also have one of the best rucks in the league. Your time might be a lot closer than you think

 

[tonygeeks]

Breaking news, fan of footy club would prefer to get good player for significantly reduced cost to club.

More at 6

Isn’t that the best way to get ahead ?


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[Freoboy in Melbs]

I think it works. It’s just that you picked the wrong players. Some you mentioned had big off field question marks that the club knew about. It’s about balance at the end of the day. Whose to say pick 6 and 8 don’t cry and go home after two years whether it’s the lions or freo? Cerra isn’t leaving because of the culture. I think that’s why freo supporters are over rating the value of draft picks (can draft a WA boy that is predicted to go 10-25) with pick 14 and nab Neale. Even if they are good it’s so hard to keep hold of them. I also think Fremantle has shown enough to suggest they should really be making the 8 next year and you guys underrate your list. It comes with being burnt most years I guess. How many good young players do you need? I mean if Melbourne can dominate the league with that forward line of battlers (Pickett and Fritsch aside) then why can’t freo contend next year with a healthy list and the addition of Neale and Fyfe still at his best/ Mundy still around? You also have one of the best rucks in the league. Your time might be a lot closer than you think

I acknowledge your sentiment but how can the draft be over valued to a club thats had significantly more success with it, than recruiting? And therefor we should rightly value it more than say Hawthorn that appear to have players tripping over themselves to play for and don't rely much on the draft. Different strokes and all that.

There's no one size fits all. Drafting will work better for some clubs more than others. For other clubs it will be about the recruitung. For other clubs it might be both.

Lots of commentators are talking about "what Lachie Neale is worth" as if there's just a singular answer. But the question, at this point, really needs to be "what is Lachie Neale worth to Freo at 28yo". It won't be the same answer for every team in the comp. It just won't. So I find the whole 'what is he worth' discussion (so far) as misguided, misleading and eroneous. It's simply a presumptious and closed-minded question. When peeps start asking what is he worth to Freo, thats when it becomes 'relevant'.

The draft works generally better for us. Better than anything else. We'd possibly be deep into the top eight by now if we hadn't stubbed or toes on Hogan, Bennell & McCarthy. And regarding targetting the 'right players', agree with that too, but Freo isn't much of a desired club to begin with. So easier said than done.

 

[tonygeeks]

I think it works. It’s just that you picked the wrong players. Some you mentioned had big off field question marks that the club knew about. It’s about balance at the end of the day. Whose to say pick 6 and 8 don’t cry and go home after two years whether it’s the lions or freo? Cerra isn’t leaving because of the culture. I think that’s why freo supporters are over rating the value of draft picks (can draft a WA boy that is predicted to go 10-25) with pick 14 and nab Neale. Even if they are good it’s so hard to keep hold of them. I also think Fremantle has shown enough to suggest they should really be making the 8 next year and you guys underrate your list. It comes with being burnt most years I guess. How many good young players do you need? I mean if Melbourne can dominate the league with that forward line of battlers (Pickett and Fritsch aside) then why can’t freo contend next year with a healthy list and the addition of Neale and Fyfe still at his best/ Mundy still around? You also have one of the best rucks in the league. Your time might be a lot closer than you think

Funny how Lions fans are suddenly pushing for us to trade for Lachie

Why is that I wonder ?


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[gungho]

One of Freo's First Round Picks and a second rounder seems fair to me, given Neale's age.

No deal. An inside mid who is 29 next year is not a priority at all. Regardless of him being a brownlow medalist. We have Brayshaw, Serong and Fyfe. We will give up a first and second for a ready made 22 year old goal kicking forward or an elite outside runner (Whitfield style). No one else.

 

[Orange Agent]

I didnt see the report mentioning Fremantle want him back ? got a link ?

The story certainly hasn't been leaked from Brisbane's end.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Tim Kelly is comparable to when Lachie Neale left Fremantle at 25 years old. Neale leaving at 28 years from Brisbane, is not the same as Tim Kelly.

Not really because kelly was a late starter to afl so his body will probably last longer into his 30s (than someone drafted at 18) so that evens out the age comparison with neale somewhat.

 

[Geoff]

Fremantle have a history of doing the right thing by there players when requesting trades for family / personal reasons. Whether it was Weller or Hill they participated in good faith for the wish of the player. From what I see with Neale compared to Weller and Hill he hasn’t struck a deal with Freo where the others had struck significant deals with the Suns and Saints. I’m sure Freo will once again participate in good faith but unlike GC n SK they won’t make promises purely because they have to. Go get’m Bellie.


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[10571z]

29 years old next season. No chance I’d be giving 2 first rounders.

Freo should be seriously cautious as imo are building nicely without throwing 2 huge picks away

 

[RoyBoy17]

Funny how Lions fans are suddenly pushing for us to trade for Lachie

Why is that I wonder ?


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Why would I want to lose lachie Neale?? Can you answer that and add anything of substance to a discussion? If you read and think about the response I’m saying draft picks are overrated and blamed Freos mature age choices for their troubles. Not the strategy. Because apparently draft picks are the be all and end all. We are only going to get draft picks in return for Neale so why would I be wanting to push him out and going against my own argument?? We need ready to go players atm. I also said you can get what you want in the draft at picks 10-25. Especially in a COVID affected year. If freo had a couple of picks in the early teens I’d take it over 6 alone. Most often the top 10 are the players who have had the most wind blown up their ass by journos, player agents and fraud draft gurus a year out from the draft. They get looked at with rose tinted glasses. The hard workers slide or bolt late because they can’t rely on natural talent alone.

 

[bennyg12]

Must be s S**t bloke

 

[Suma Magic]

It seems like this doesn’t make sense for anyone other than lachie. Not having a go at him, just saying that brissy really wouldn’t want to lose him, and freo shouldn’t be sacrificing their rebuild.

 

[rgauci]

Not really because kelly was a late starter to afl so his body will probably last longer into his 30s (than someone drafted at 18) so that evens out the age comparison with neale somewhat.

it does the opposite *confused* It makes their ages even further apart, unless I’m not understanding what you’re saying…

 

[Punts]

If I was freo I would tell him to stick it

**** giving up 2 first rounders for a bloke that walked when he was over it

Seems like a ripper fella though

 

[brutus76]

Freo have bugger all picks and won't want to limit their selection ability after good draft hauls the past 2 years.

If they got 6 for Cerra and offered it and a 2022 2nd for the Lions picks in the 50s this lets them get more players into the side (having already dumped 7 from their list) - especially local WA boys who may be outside the top 27 (the Dockers last pick) who they can get on their list like:

Kade Dittmar, Jesse Motlop, Josh Browne amongst others

 

[Mesc]

The story certainly hasn't been leaked from Brisbane's end.

So that means Freo want him back ? Ok

 

[Purple Suit]

I acknowledge your sentiment but how can the draft be over valued to a club thats had significantly more success with it, than recruiting? And therefor we should rightly value it more than say Hawthorn that appear to have players tripping over themselves to play for and don't rely much on the draft. Different strokes and all that.

There's no one size fits all. Drafting will work better for some clubs more than others. For other clubs it will be about the recruitung. For other clubs it might be both.

Lots of commentators are talking about "what Lachie Neale is worth" as if there's just a singular answer. But the question, at this point, really needs to be "what is Lachie Neale worth to Freo at 28yo". It won't be the same answer for every team in the comp. It just won't. So I find the whole 'what is he worth' discussion (so far) as misguided, misleading and eroneous. It's simply a presumptious and closed-minded question. When peeps start asking what is he worth to Freo, thats when it becomes 'relevant'.

The draft works generally better for us. Better than anything else. We'd possibly be deep into the top eight by now if we hadn't stubbed or toes on Hogan, Bennell & McCarthy. And regarding targetting the 'right players', agree with that too, but Freo isn't much of a desired club to begin with. So easier said than done.

Only Hogan has cost Freo. McCarthy cost us Tarranto but came with Logue, Darcy & Ryan so much better overall and still done in hindsight. Bennell was basically a 2nd rounder and before the full rebuild started. Hogan cost us Lachie Neale but had actually freed up cap space last year when we cut our losses. One mistake is not the end of the world and this is not the same as the bad old Swabby days.

Losing draft capital happens, not point getting upset when it doesn't work out once a decade.

 

[perplexed]

29 years old next season. No chance I’d be giving 2 first rounders.

Freo should be seriously cautious as imo are building nicely without throwing 2 huge picks away

29 next season? So your telling us that he'll be older than he is now?
This is something that Brisbane needs to come clean on. Just how fast is this bloke ageing? If he keeps this up he'll 38 in ten years time.

 

[Freoboy in Melbs]

Only Hogan has cost Freo. McCarthy cost us Tarranto but came with Logue, Darcy & Ryan so much better overall and still done in hindsight. Bennell was basically a 2nd rounder and before the full rebuild started. Hogan cost us Lachie Neale but had actually freed up cap space last year when we cut our losses. One mistake is not the end of the world and this is not the same as the bad old Swabby days.

Losing draft capital happens, not point getting upset when it doesn't work out once a decade.

I somewhat agree, but I'm just making the point that we are a club that does signficantly better with drafts than with recruits. Doesn't mean anyone's upset.

Out of interest can you think of any bonafide stand out recruitung successes that weren't just filler at Freo? At all? Modra was, but I can't think of any others right now.

 

[Purple Suit]

I somewhat agree, but I'm just making the point that we are a club that does signficantly better with drafts than with recruits. Doesn't mean anyone's upset.

Out of interest can you think of any bonafide stand out recruitung successes that weren't just filler at Freo? At all? Modra was, but I can't think of any others right now.

McPharlin, can't remember what he cost us as my psychologist says I shouldn't think about it.