Recommitted Lachie Neale [OOC 2023 - Will honour his contract]

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[mick1013]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

 

[s_wd6]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

that is probably hands down the worst suggestion yet

 

[mick1013]

that is probably hands down the worst suggestion yet

You get 6 which is overs for Cerra, 19+22 is worth value in value then 8, Neale won the browlow last year and hes on 600k and you're giving less back then what you got 2 years ago. Tell me how Freo lose this, think Carlton lose if anyone.

 

[Barrybran]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

The value to Brisbane has little relevance to the value to Fremantle. Fremantle have to do their own deal, not Brisbane's. I don't know that I'd be happy as a Dockers fan if they turned Cerra and pick 8 into Neale and picks 22 and 47.

 

[RoyBoy17]

I disagree. With all due respect, are you married with children? It takes a village and if 2021 has taught us anything it is that being close to your loved ones is everything. The lockdowns of 21 vs 20 are harder in a lot of ways, and that feeling that comes with it is cumulative.

It's not enough to just be there with your kids. Having kids has brought me closer to my parents than I thought I ever would be as an adult. Not seeing them weekly now is the pits and the last thing I want for my family.

Anyway...things change, including your personal circumstances, feelings about certain things etc. I understand him wanting to go back after the year we've all had. Maybe he only spoke to Freo because he wants to go back there? Who knows.

In an industry where you can work from most
states why wouldn't you choose the one with your family in it, especially when father time comes? Because you 'owe the club'? Haha. They'll cut you as soon as it suits them.

Spare me. He knew he would be starting a family at some point prior to joining us. He and his gf chose to move away from family. So obviously family wasn’t at the forefront of their minds when he made his decision to leave the first time around. They saw dollar signs. Now when he has got the majority of this money family is a factor? He gets paid enormous amounts to kick a piece of leather around and enjoy the sunny weather in Qld. What a life. He owes the club big time. We don’t always get what we want in life. Maybe it’s time he’s thankful for what he’s got.

 

[s_wd6]

You get 6 which is overs for Cerra, 19+22 is worth value in value then 8, Neale won the browlow last year and hes on 600k and you're giving less back then what you got 2 years ago. Tell me how Freo lose this, think Carlton lose if anyone.

heading to the draft stacked with WA talent with our first pick at 22 because a bloke who has about 3 years left of footy (in a position we're already covered in) decides he wants to come home with 2 years left on his contract is a huge loss.

also in what world is 6 overs for cerra? he was drafted at pick 5, has played 70 odd games, is a proven player, and is only 21. 6 is the starting point for cerra.

 

[Yeti]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

That's a flat no from me.

Neales value to Brisbane is completely the opposite to Fremantle and they should just let Brisbane hold onto him if that's the price.

In fact they should probably just tell him they can't facilitate a trade due to list management strategy the have implemented over the last 3 years since he requested a trade away from Fremantle while under contract.

The whole list management would have been different had we had Neale as a gun inside midfielder. Doubt we take Serong for starters.

 

[JasRulz63]

Garlick has come out and said (paraphrasing here) "yes, there's a connection with Freo, but we need to put that aside, and we'll look at the situation objectively". And has also said "we have specific needs for our list".

From reading around on social media, he's also basically said while Freo have a lot of inside mids, it's Neale so they'll look at getting it done and also said there was "excitement" (his word) about getting Neale.

 

[Yeti]

From reading around on social media, he's also basically said while Freo have a lot of inside mids, it's Neale so they'll look at getting it done and also said there was "excitement" (his word) about getting Neale.

I'm not sure how true that is, I haven't seen it but if so Garlick is an idiot. He may as well get Lachie Neale to call up trade radio and tell them that Freo has guaranteed they will get him there this trade period.

Let's just go full Gold Coast.

 

[JasRulz63]

I'm not sure how true that is, I haven't seen it but if so Garlick is an idiot. He may as well get Lachie Neale to call up trade radio and tell them that Freo has guaranteed they will get him there this trade period.

Let's just go full Gold Coast.

 

[Yeti]

Yep. Idiot confirmed.

 

[Mego Red]

Neale and Port's first round pick for 6 and Freo's 2022 2nd?

Gets the Lions some Ashcroft points and a serious upgrade this year, Freo still keep two 2021 firsts.

 

[Yeti]

Neale and Port's first round pick for 6 and Freo's 2022 2nd?

Gets the Lions some Ashcroft points and a serious upgrade this year, Freo still keep two 2021 firsts.

I don't think giving up our first round pick and 2 round pick (which is effectively 10 and 30ish anyway) for Neale is a good thing in most supporters eyes, definitely not mine.

He can stay in Brisbane for that.

 

[Freoboy in Melbs]

You get 6 which is overs for Cerra, 19+22 is worth value in value then 8, Neale won the browlow last year and hes on 600k and you're giving less back then what you got 2 years ago. Tell me how Freo lose this, think Carlton lose if anyone.

Reckon your proposed deal, could be on the money - IF and only if Freo are that keen to part with those picks for him.

And at this stage, that's the million dollar question. The fans are far from convinced (universally), but how keen is Freo, the club? That's when debates of 'worth' become relevant. We'll find out out soon enough, I suppose.

 

[s_wd6]

Reckon your proposed deal, could be on the money - IF and only if Freo are that keen to part with those picks for him.

And at this stage, that's the million dollar question. The fans are far from convinced (universally), but how keen is Freo, the club? That's when debates of 'worth' become relevant. We'll find out out soon enough, I suppose.

yeah after plenty of talk about how we want to hit the draft hard this year, i'd like to believe freo are not stupid enough to give up 2 top ten picks to get neale. not a chance

 

[freo1997]

We'll be looking to offload Lobb and a future pick to get a first rounder in this year.

This will help getting Neale in.

 

[Freoboy in Melbs]

From reading around on social media, he's also basically said while Freo have a lot of inside mids, it's Neale so they'll look at getting it done and also said there was "excitement" (his word) about getting Neale.

I see what you're saying, but of course it's excitng. He's stating the obvious. A recent Brownlow medalist want to rejoin our club. Yes, that really is exciting. Not sure that means we'll do anything the Lions want to get him.

 

[JasRulz63]

Yep. Idiot confirmed.

SD 6PR - September 7

Dockers CEO Simon Garlick joins the show to discuss the appointment of Bob Murphy plus Lachie Neale's future. Plus Demons forward Tom Sparrow ahead of Friday's huge clash against Geelong.

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Garlick is on Neale is from 24 minutes onwards.

On the topic of whether Neale fits their list management strategy: "It's an interesting thought Haze. I mean the reality is, if you pull it apart, forensically, it's well regarded that we have strong coverage in that area, inside mids.

But the reality is also that a player of that ilk, or that quality is something you'd be pretty enthusiastic to look at closely

...having midfield depth has been a bit of a premiership trait for clubs in the past so it's certainly something we'd consider closely."

Then goes on to talk about being objective about trading players in and out, in terms of being competitive long term.

Regarding being a big player at the trade table: "We've got a preference to hit the draft, as a priority. Now clearly, there's circumstances which might enliven a tilt from, or a slight divert from that strategy as an overriding philosophy when there's players of outstanding character and capability, that's something we'd consider. But our overriding preference is in and around the draft and that's what we'll continue focussing on."

 

[Freoboy in Melbs]

SD 6PR - September 7

Dockers CEO Simon Garlick joins the show to discuss the appointment of Bob Murphy plus Lachie Neale's future. Plus Demons forward Tom Sparrow ahead of Friday's huge clash against Geelong.

player.whooshkaa.com

Garlick is on Neale is from 24 minutes onwards.

On the topic of whether Neale fits their list management strategy: "It's an interesting thought Haze. I mean the reality is, if you pull it apart, forensically, it's well regarded that we have strong coverage in that area, inside mids.

But the reality is also that a player of that ilk, or that quality is something you'd be pretty enthusiastic to look at closely

...having midfield depth has been a bit of a premiership trait for clubs in the past so it's certainly something we'd consider closely."

Then goes on to talk about being objective about trading players in and out, in terms of being competitive long term.

Regarding being a big player at the trade table: "We've got a preference to hit the draft, as a priority. Now clearly, there's circumstances which might enliven a tilt from, or a slight divert from that strategy as an overriding philosophy when there's players of outstanding character and capability, that's something we'd consider. But our overriding preference is in and around the draft and that's what we'll continue focussing on."

There's no doubt, everyone's excited, and of course Freo are excited. But you can read his comments a number of ways. But it will ultimately come down to a question of 'cost' - of which it's only Lions fans and Vic media insisting what the deal 'should' look like. So much to play out here. The snippets from Garlick don't really indicate much other than 'how exciting, let's have a look'.

 

[Lach72]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

so we give both our firsts away and get Neale and 22 and 47

so Gc get a top ten pick for two seconds (snort) and Brisbane get 6 and 19 for a 29 old next year and Fremantle get a 29 year old and no other elite talent/no tall forwards this year

vomit

 

[Polo342]

Does anyone think that is a possibility that Neale stays at the Lions now? His names been tarnished through the Media these past 2 days. Gonna be awkward going back if fremantle wont part with either high end picks.

 

[Taylor]

If Neale says he is moving no matter what, makes it much simpler. The idea that we get haggled up after someone cold calls us during dinner to buy something we don't need is crazy.

I want Brisbane to keep him, they paid for him already, they deserve to get what they paid for.

We know EXACTLY how this feels, except when he was poached by Brisbane it was for money and this time it's about family, allegedly. Nothing to do with Freo having a 4x $750,000 hole in the salary cap.

 

[Slax]

I understand Fremantle have a strategy that doesn't involve Neale and they won't want to give much up as they're building through the draft, very impressed with Fremantles midfield and understand some of the supporter concerns about "selling the farm" for Neale. Need to remember how valuable he is to Brisbane, 2x bnf winner, brownlow medalist LAST YEAR and still rated as our best player. I am coming around to the idea of this- Cerra for 6 (other picks exchanged later), Freo pick 8 to GC for 19 & 22, Pick 6 & 19 to Brisbane for Neale & pick 47 (who is only on 600k a year). Thoughts please.

Suns have been blocked by AFL to trade the priority pick they were given, suspect going to ne rescinded, so 19 is off the table.

 

[Yeti]

SD 6PR - September 7

Dockers CEO Simon Garlick joins the show to discuss the appointment of Bob Murphy plus Lachie Neale's future. Plus Demons forward Tom Sparrow ahead of Friday's huge clash against Geelong.

player.whooshkaa.com

Garlick is on Neale is from 24 minutes onwards.

On the topic of whether Neale fits their list management strategy: "It's an interesting thought Haze. I mean the reality is, if you pull it apart, forensically, it's well regarded that we have strong coverage in that area, inside mids.

But the reality is also that a player of that ilk, or that quality is something you'd be pretty enthusiastic to look at closely

...having midfield depth has been a bit of a premiership trait for clubs in the past so it's certainly something we'd consider closely."

Then goes on to talk about being objective about trading players in and out, in terms of being competitive long term.

Regarding being a big player at the trade table: "We've got a preference to hit the draft, as a priority. Now clearly, there's circumstances which might enliven a tilt from, or a slight divert from that strategy as an overriding philosophy when there's players of outstanding character and capability, that's something we'd consider. But our overriding preference is in and around the draft and that's what we'll continue focussing on."

That's some nice spin. I love how he references midfield depth as a premiership trait yet fails to address the other required component of a forward line that can kick goals. Looks like Fremantle is looking to win the Trade Week Premiership yet again so they can give fans a nice short term sugar hit.

FMD.

 

[Slax]

We'll be looking to offload Lobb and a future pick to get a first rounder in this year.

This will help getting Neale in.

Problem with offloading Lobb is his contract, Freo going to have to chip in some because no-one will pay him $750k a year