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[jd2010]

This is what Slot said was the reason it wasn't a 2nd yellow

It is the directive to the referees that is wrong. Just because it didn't stop the attack it takes out a player who should be joining the attack that may be able to make an impact. It has annoyed me all season that they aren't giving a yellow for it
They haven't given that yellow all season which is wrong but it would have been inconsistent with how they officiated all season if he did get the 2nd yellow

We've had it happen against us a few times. Never knew the ruling had changed to that and was pissed a few times where we'd counter and no retrospective yellow would come out for players who then get 2nd yellows later on. Newcastle game on the weekend their brutes had a few they got away with

 

[SM]

I just think the whole debate is reasonably irrelevant as the same argument can be applied that the first yellow was incorrect and you end up with him still just on a yellow.

 

[jd2010]

Good effort by Ange. Konate should've covered the goal regardless of the Bergval situation.

Hopefully can get the job done in the second leg but if we can't happy for Ange to get the trophy.

To be honest and to give Ange credit, even if Bergvall is off and we are down to 10 men, with it being 10v10 at that point, someone else is making that Bergvall run and we are going for the win at all costs type thing. Now of course it would probably have been Bissouma or Kulu on his right leg, and very unlikely either of them finish it off. But the chance itself plays out exactly that way 10v10 or even 10v11 because thats the upside of the craziness of Angeball, we go forward regardless

 

[Zidane98]

I just think the whole debate is reasonably irrelevant as the same argument can be applied that the first yellow was incorrect and you end up with him still just on a yellow.

It's not as the first yellow card is a factual thing you're trying to argue on a subjective basis.

Which is a silly argument. It's like saying a player who was penalised incorrectly previously got a deliberate handball is now allowed a deliberate handball to make up for it.

Just not how the game works at all.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

What did Slot and Ange think of the ball. That's the most important question here.

 

[SM]

It's not as the first yellow card is a factual thing you're trying to argue on a subjective basis.

Which is a silly argument. It's like saying a player who was penalised incorrectly previously got a deliberate handball is now allowed a deliberate handball to make up for it.

Just not how the game works at all.

The first yellow isn't factual? It's a harsh yellow where he basically doesn't make contact.

 

[hawkman]

The stopping the attack part is irrelevant. It was a reckless poor tackle regardless of any possible attack. Even in the event LFC scored a yellow card should've been awarded.

It was less of a reckless poor tackle than what VVD put on Solanke

 

[hawkman]

We've had it happen against us a few times. Never knew the ruling had changed to that and was pissed a few times where we'd counter and no retrospective yellow would come out for players who then get 2nd yellows later on. Newcastle game on the weekend their brutes had a few they got away with

It is how Joelinton managed to survive not getting a booking until late in the 2nd half

 

[Zidane98]

The first yellow isn't factual? It's a harsh yellow where he basically doesn't make contact.

Yes. The first yellow was factual at the time of the second incident.

A player doesn't have license to commit a reckless poor challenge and be immune from a yellow card because they believe they shouldn't have received a first yellow card.

Ridiculous argument.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Yes. The first yellow was factual at the time of the second incident.

A player doesn't have license to commit a reckless poor challenge and be immune from a yellow card because they believe they shouldn't have received a first yellow card.

Ridiculous argument.

That isn't his argument FFS.
That's your incorrect interpretation and comprehension.

His argument is that complaints about no second yellow could be easily made in the other direction about the first yellow.

 

[SM]

Yes. The first yellow was factual at the time of the second incident.

A player doesn't have license to commit a reckless poor challenge and be immune from a yellow card because they believe they shouldn't have received a first yellow card.

Ridiculous argument.

What on earth are you on about now?

 

[jod23]

This is what Slot said was the reason it wasn't a 2nd yellow

It is the directive to the referees that is wrong. Just because it didn't stop the attack it takes out a player who should be joining the attack that may be able to make an impact. It has annoyed me all season that they aren't giving a yellow for it
They haven't given that yellow all season which is wrong but it would have been inconsistent with how they officiated all season if he did get the 2nd yellow

That's exactly it. It didnt stop the counter attack but it did make sure the counter attack had one less attacking player and that's why it should be a yellow everytime. Not to mention, none of the ball, cynical. It was a clear as day yellow but it is what it is. Cant change it now.

Gives us more reason to be fired up and put it right at Anfield.

 

[SM]

That's exactly it. It didnt stop the counter attack but it did make sure the counter attack had one less attacking player and that's why it should be a yellow everytime. Not to mention, none of the ball, cynical. It was a clear as day yellow but it is what it is. Cant change it now.

Gives us more reason to be fired up and put it right at Anfield.

I didnt realise that was the threshold for a cynical challenge, can you show me that in the rules?

 

[jod23]

To be honest and to give Ange credit, even if Bergvall is off and we are down to 10 men, with it being 10v10 at that point, someone else is making that Bergvall run and we are going for the win at all costs type thing. Now of course it would probably have been Bissouma or Kulu on his right leg, and very unlikely either of them finish it off. But the chance itself plays out exactly that way 10v10 or even 10v11 because thats the upside of the craziness of Angeball, we go forward regardless

Well no it doesnt, the ball is played down the left where Tsimikas should have been but was not on the pitch because of the tackle. Konate doesnt need to cover the run and come across leaving oceans of space. Even if it plays out that Dom beats Tsimi and puts the ball in to the middle, now we have Konate there instead of absolutely nobody.

 

[jod23]

I didnt realise that was the threshold for a cynical challenge, can you show me that in the rules?

What do you mean?

 

[Zidane98]

That isn't his argument FFS.
That's your incorrect interpretation and comprehension.

His argument is that complaints about no second yellow could be easily made in the other direction about the first yellow.

Of course it is. Justifying an incorrect call because the first yellow card is debatable is moronic in the extreme.


The two calls are completely separate.

 

[Zidane98]

I didnt realise that was the threshold for a cynical challenge, can you show me that in the rules?

Now you're being ridiculous.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

As Ange explained...

The rule is, and we’ve been told for quite a while now, that if advantage gets played, as long as it’s not a cynical tackle, then the yellow card doesn’t... because we’ve been screaming for it for the last two months. It’s happened to us consistently. Have a look at our games. And we’ve asked officials and they’ve said, if we play advantage, as long as it’s not a cynical tackle, then the yellow card doesn’t get paid. Now, to me, that was pretty clear.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

2nd week of Jan and scousers making sure to nail down most biased fanbase title for another year. Zizou and Jodly may scrape together two eyes between them.

 

[hawkman]

I do laugh that VVD was the one doing all the whinging when he was lucky to stay on the pitch himself

 

[SM]

Of course it is. Justifying an incorrect call because the first yellow card is debatable is moronic in the extreme.


The two calls are completely separate.

You really are incredible.

 

[Zidane98]

You really are incredible.

For calling it how it is? Lol.

 

[SM]

For calling it how it is? Lol.

For having such poor comprehension skills in discussion after discussion.

 

[Zidane98]

For having such poor comprehension skills in discussion after discussion.

Ok precious whatever makes you feel better after you've made a fool of yourself.

I'll happily go along to placate yourself so you can move on.