Speculation Liam Baker [reportedly headed west]

[Jeremias]

Time for some house cleaning.

1) Do not drag discussions or individual posts over here from other threads or boards.

Feel free to respond to those posts wherever they were posted, if you so choose.

2) Enough with the personal attacks. It’s a long season and this one may go the distance, so if you want to remain a part of the discussion, do it respectfully.

We will use thread bans and infractions if necessary.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Have we ever seen a 'long term deal' tabled in a trade that got done for less than a 1st rounder?

Brodie Grundy, Griffin Logue, Rory Lobb, Jye Caldwell are some examples in last 3 years.

 

[tiger_tough]

Brodie Grundy, Griffin Logue, Rory Lobb, Jye Caldwell are some examples in last 3 years.

Well we know why Swans got Grundy cheap, that's not relevant here. Logue was not only bundled up with another player but they were also traded for multiple picks, also not relevant here. Lobb was 4 years, so at least 2 years shorter you'd think (and he's a spud), Caldwell was also 4 years....

 

[Purple Suit]

Well, Hopper's permanently injured and anyone could tell your team was on the decline.

WCE topped up a bloke who almost won a Brownlow for a final shot at a flag, whilst Richmond brought in 2 blokes(one who has chronic injury issues) right when they should've been looking to start a rebuild instead.

If WCE did the Kelly trade in 2021, that'd be a whole different discussion.

As a neutral, I recon you both stuffed up big time topping up.

You guys are arguing over which shit tastes better.

 

[sawyer]

No offence to y’all but your teams colour is purple.

 

[T4P]

As a neutral, I recon you both stuffed up big time topping up.

You guys are arguing over which shit tastes better.

Taranto and Hopper are straight out of the Mitchell and O'Meara playbook for sure. There is an argument that Richmond started rebuilding earlier than Hawthorn, in no short part due to injuries, but I think it's too early to say whether Richmond truly stuffed up on those trades.

Two players don't determine the future of a club, I think we paid relatively fair value for both and they should both be performing for several years - enough to be part of the rebuild.

Basically, I don't think we sacrificed the long term for the short term by bringing Taranto and Hopper in.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Taranto and Hopper are straight out of the Mitchell and O'Meara playbook for sure. There is an argument that Richmond started rebuilding earlier than Hawthorn, in no short part due to injuries, but I think it's too early to say whether Richmond truly stuffed up on those trades.

Two players don't determine the future of a club, I think we paid relatively fair value for both and they should both be performing for several years - enough to be part of the rebuild.

Basically, I don't think we sacrificed the long term for the short term by bringing Taranto and Hopper in.

I was in that stage in Year 2 of the Kelly trade

Year 4 will be a rough one for you

 

[Wild Bill]

Well we know why Swans got Grundy cheap, that's not relevant here. Logue was not only bundled up with another player but they were also traded for multiple picks, also not relevant here. Lobb was 4 years, so at least 2 years shorter you'd think (and he's a spud), Caldwell was also 4 years....

Dawson got 5 years - pick 18.

 

[T4P]

I was in that stage in Year 2 of the Kelly trade

Year 4 will be a rough one for you

But but but Kelly was older when you recruited him

But but your team was older and more reliant on its old players

But Vic bias

...****

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

But but but Kelly was older when you recruited him

But but your team was older and more reliant on its old players

But Vic bias

...****

The good thing in a way is the picks we traded were fricken shithouse. Geelong ended up with nothing back once they used those picks. I believe all of those they picked have been delisted already

For Jacob Hopper for example you gave up one of Daniel Curtin or Nate Caddy in reality. Caddy is MUCH more valuable then Hopper already

 

[tigs2010]

The good thing in a way is the picks we traded were fricken shithouse. Geelong ended up with nothing back once they used those picks. I believe all of those they picked have been delisted already

They haven't...ones running around in a top 5 WA team in fact.

For Jacob Hopper for example you gave up one of Daniel Curtin or Nate Caddy in reality. Caddy is MUCH more valuable then Hopper already

LOL is it the 10 touches or the 30% efficiency whilst playing only against bottom feeding teams that gave you this thought?

 

[tiger_tough]

Dawson got 5 years - pick 18.

A 1st rounder?

Great piece of recruiting by Crows though.

 

[T4P]

The good thing in a way is the picks we traded were fricken shithouse. Geelong ended up with nothing back once they used those picks. I believe all of those they picked have been delisted already

For Jacob Hopper for example you gave up one of Daniel Curtin or Nate Caddy in reality. Caddy is MUCH more valuable then Hopper already

Easy to rationalise based on outcomes of those picks, but I don't think it's the best way to compare. Plus it's all speculation until a few years down the track

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

As a neutral, I recon you both stuffed up big time topping up.

You guys are arguing over which shit tastes better.

One day you might find that when you win flags you can afford to take risks topping up to win another

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Eagles will 100% make an offer that at least matches Freos.

Easy trade for Freo if he goes there unless they have Warner or Bolton on the hook.


A few different of ways to get the trade done if he decides to go home and picks the Eagles.
-Eagles can Split the first round pick (depends how they rank the draft)
-If Barrass does get traded (which I think he will and Eagles will get ‘overs’)
-Bundle the 2nd round picks.

A lot to unfold but if he leaves. he will get traded to what ever club he picks.

He's an uncontracted player, there is no universe we split a top 3 pick for him or give up what we get for Barrass because in that case we would just keep Barrass. He will go for our 2nd and change if we get him.

 

[Rich01]

He's an uncontracted player, there is no universe we split a top 3 pick for him or give up what we get for Barrass because in that case we would just keep Barrass. He will go for our 2nd and change if we get him.

I’m glad you have this view of uncontracted players.
Will make it easier for you to accept what you get for Harley Reid in a couple of years time.

 

[bzparkes]

I’m glad you have this view of uncontracted players.
Will make it easier for you to accept what you get for Harley Reid in a couple of years time.

Reid ain't going to leave WCE for Richmond on the decline.

 

[Rich01]

Reid ain't going to leave WCE for Richmond on the decline.

Where did I say he was?

 

[bzparkes]

Where did I say he was?

Oh, I just presumed you were like every other post who says the same thing, where they all think he's going to nominate their club whenever a trade with WCE for another player is suggested.

My bad.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I’m glad you have this view of uncontracted players.
Will make it easier for you to accept what you get for Harley Reid in a couple of years time.

Supply and demand mate, it is what it is. If richmond refuse to trade him for what we offer then he can go to the PSD and you guys can pick him up again if you finish below us and are so inclined to do so.

Reid either stays or we will be heavily compensated for the most valuable asset in AFL.

 

[Rich01]

Supply and demand mate, it is what it is. If richmond refuse to trade him for what we offer then he can go to the PSD and you guys can pick him up again if you finish below us and are so inclined to do so.

Reid either stays or we will be heavily compensated for the most valuable asset in AFL.

Nah I’m just calling out your inconsistencies.
But one thing we will probably both agree on is that the players are probably more valuable to their current teams than the draft compensation they will get if they request a trade.

 

[Morro]

One day you might find that when you win flags you can afford to take risks topping up to win another

*flag

It was just the one.

 

[tigs2010]

if you finish below us

Have you seen us? What's this if rubbish?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Have you seen us? What's this if rubbish?

I reckon we could give you a run for your money at times...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Feel like a watch this space view of this is

Eagles sign Tim English as a free agent
Eagles trade Bailey Williams + pick upgrades for Liam Baker

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Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star