Autopsy Lions prevail by 10

[CatToTheFuture]

Looks like Geelong are nowhere near falling off the cliff.
Yes Danger, Hawkins, Tuohy, Stanley, Duncan, Blicavs will all inevitably go but the squad last night was mostly built through the next generation.
I'm sure the players above going will open up salary space too.

It's never as good or as bad as it looks though. There's a lot of games experience to go out yet.

Think it's still pretty reasonable to suggest we're not making the 8 next year. We are going to struggle to be competitive with a run of injuries and all that lost depth. Especially if we lose a couple of mids we are cooked

Exciting from the kids though

 

[joe444]

It's not AI generated

(see previous post)

 

[CatToTheFuture]

We should debate the JFK assassination next, but this is the "background" I'm talking about.

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Yeah what's wrong with it?

 

[cats_09]

(see previous post)

There's nothing in the image which is AI

Not sure which post you'd like one to look at, but doesn't change that it's a live photo taken after Henry kicked his goal following the soccer assist from Messi

As for the players in the background - maybe it's the bench their looking at or trying to work out how Messi got the ball to talk as he did to set up that goal

 

[Seeds]

We should debate the JFK assassination next, but this is the "background" I'm talking about.

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Oswald got the first shot but the shot that killed him was accidently fired by a rookie fbi agent in the car behind him. It was simply an accident.

 

[stevothedevo]

Great game. Extremely nervous thoughout even when 26 pts up in the 3rd quarter. My worry was that 3 goals in the 2nd quarter were tinarse and the only time I felt like we were truly controlling the game was the 1st 10mins of the 1st quarter. But we only had 4pts to our name. It seemed like Brisbane had more control from that point on.

And although Stewart had a few moments he'd like to take back he also seemed to be doing a lot of the doing. He gave up a few but saved a few goals too. He's output probably evened out in the end. John Kennedy would be proud. At least he DID something.

 

[Seeds]

Also thought miers was great. Dont know what his numbers were but seemed to be involved in a number of key attacking plays. Does miers have the capability to step it up and become a full time mid?

 

[callmeX]

Yes but we are not teaching players to protect themselves we are rewarding them for letting their head hit the ground for a free when they could be bracing themselves (see mcluggage). Its becoming soccer levels of staging (which is why that game is crap) and we need to put some onus back on the player being tackled. If they dont a whole generation of fans like me will simply leave the game and go watch other sports instead.

You also need the umpires to pay holding the ball earlier - the issue with tackling is the free kick interpretation by morons

 

[Cosmic Energy]

5 CBAs to Bowes on the day

For some reason the first thing that popped into my head when I saw CBA was ‘couldn’t be arseds’ not centre bounce attendances. Nothing to do with Bowes, maybe we do need a ‘couldn’t be arsed’ stat when people don’t chase etc.

 

[1990crow]

It's never as good or as bad as it looks though. There's a lot of games experience to go out yet.

Think it's still pretty reasonable to suggest we're not making the 8 next year. We are going to struggle to be competitive with a run of injuries and all that lost depth. Especially if we lose a couple of mids we are cooked

Exciting from the kids though

I wouldn't bet on that.
Bailey Smith in, Holmes, Bruhn, Danger, Clark, Bowes in the middle kicking to Henry, Cameron, Stengle, Dempsey plays finals imo, especially with Stewart and DeKoning behind.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

It's never as good or as bad as it looks though. There's a lot of games experience to go out yet.

Think it's still pretty reasonable to suggest we're not making the 8 next year. We are going to struggle to be competitive with a run of injuries and all that lost depth. Especially if we lose a couple of mids we are cooked

Exciting from the kids though

Honestly most of the older guys that will go this offseason are cooked and have already been replaced in the 22 (henry for rohan neale for hawk mannagh for duncan etc etc).
The only one we havent replaced is stanley but thats because our ruck list mgt is poor.
So it wont change the best 22 much.
But i agree it affects our injury depth (although oconnor and guthrie hopefully being fit again will help) and if too many injuries we will be promoting a few kids (but clohesy and knevitt are close to ready and might surprise).
Need to see after the offseason though-we might use the dfa period and drafts to bring in a couple of mature bodies (like mannagh was) to help depth.

I agree theres a good chance we miss the 8 though.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

You also need the umpires to pay holding the ball earlier - the issue with tackling is the free kick interpretation by morons

1000 %.

 

[you pick one]

5 CBAs to Bowes on the day

He did, but not often -

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I would have liked to have seen a bit more of Bowes and Stewart they look under utilised to me in a hotly contested final even to just conserve energy for Dangerfield Holmes and Atkins and help them run out the 120 minutes.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Also thought miers was great. Dont know what his numbers were but seemed to be involved in a number of key attacking plays. Does miers have the capability to step it up and become a full time mid?

He definitely has the tank but body size will be a limitation in there but we will look at it.
Him and mannagh were both super last night.

 

[BotsMaster]

Oh well. In a funny way I'm kind of relieved we're not playing next week as I don't think we would beat the Swans.

For now, I will just console myself with the 2022 PF highlights.

 

[Footy_Fan2007]

Who gives a shit. People are leaving the game with literal brain damage

I’m all for protecting the head but sometimes it can’t be avoided. There are accidents that happen. It’s a contact sport.
The players take that risk when they take the field. Same as any professional athlete in contact sport.

If you want to watch a non contact sport with no risks, then go watch netball mate.
We may as well ban contact sports all together.

 

[joe444]

Oswald got the first shot but the shot that killed him was accidently fired by a rookie fbi agent in the car behind him. It was simply an accident.

Oh no you don't ... not on here. The closest the VFL/AFL comes to that is the ABCTV "Zapruder film" of the 1979 Grand Final. Or, indeed, the fact that Gabbo's run in 1964 is actually half as long as people think it is, because the film version cuts to a ground camera and shows the same two bounces all over again, making 4. Another weird thing is that the GAA use hawkeye for goal reviews and we don't.

Anyway, I'm letting the Wilson stuff slide. It's a great (and very expensive) setup and almost all elements are 100% authentic.




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[stevothedevo]

Also, Shannon Neale's shot in the last that was marked uncontested on the goal line. WTF.

 

[My Tilly]

Very disappointed like everyone else but so privileged to be follow this club.
You know they will be thereabouts in 2025 and if we can just see some improvement from key areas, who knows.

It was also glaringly obvious how valuable Holmes is to our system. It was a brilliant performance until he left the field. Not a stat padder either, each disposal is impactful. Hope he can seek further advice on those hamstrings over summer time because he could be a similar athlete to Adam Treloar

1

Adam Treloar

Age

31

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.2

5star

K

12.9

5star

HB

15.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.9

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

30.3

5star

K

16.3

5star

HB

14.0

5star

M

2.0

2star

T

3.3

4star

CL

5.8

5star

D

18.0

5star

K

11.2

4star

HB

6.8

5star

M

4.2

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

1.6

4star

who has had ongoing hamstring concern throughout his career.

I hope supporters don't start blaming individuals. I know a few lowered their colors but they are very inexperienced. Ultimately, this was always the main concern for me, we do not have enough players in that 100-150 game sweet spot.

 

[MacStradbroke]

We should debate the JFK assassination next, but this is the "background" I'm talking about.

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Yeah you’ve got me intrigued. Amazing goal yet the players in the background are focussed and running in the opposite way

 

[ShaunWDT]

Pretty much sums up where the game was lost. They cut us up through there that second half and it was the difference. Holmes going down hurt us structurally quite badly.

I felt like oddly they looked a better unit with daniber in the ruck and going more mobile up forward

Our zone got badly exposed by a mobile unpredictable forward line, very similar to how the Saints surged all over us really.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Why didn't Stanley stay down and go off the ground when he got that free with 46 seconds to go.

I instantly recognised he should have gone off.

This was not smart, as our on-field leaders did not tell him to stay down when he showed that he was hurt.

If he goes off (when the clock had stopped) a replacement kicker can instantly kick the goal once time comes back on.

Instead, he hobbled back injured, wasting time and missed the shot.

Even if he kicked it he wouldn't have been able to contribute in the next play to win the game (so just go off man.. you are injured).

Nahhh I was dirty on that watching it live... We missed a chance for a 40-second roll of the dice.

Poor on-field strategy and leadership by us... Someone should have been onto that instantly

 

[cats_09]

I would have liked to have seen a bit more of Bowes and Stewart they look under utilised to me in a hotly contested final even to just conserve energy for Dangerfield Holmes and Atkins and help them run out the 120 minutes.

I raised it last night, but I'm confused with how we used Stewart and not sure if it upset our balance in defence

He's been a mainstay in our midfield, especially at CBA since the Essendon clash, but last night he was predominantly played as a defender and I think we got that move wrong

It almost unbalanced us in defence, or at disrupted the connection we seemed to have formed over recent times

 

[joe444]

Our zone got badly ezposed by a mobile unpredictable forward line, very similar to how the Saints surged all over us really.

I know early on that Hodge in special comments said he was surprised that Geelong were going with a zone instead of man-on-man, which most teams would have done. I wonder if, strategically, that style of defence is more taxing (mentally as well as physically); I confess such things are beyond me.

For a while there, it seemed to be working perfectly, but is it possible that teams can expose it through the middle and, at such a time, you need to switch to man-on-man?

 

[callmeX]

Great season, with a limited team. We needed to take our chances and this year we could have taken a flag ala Hawks 2008.
We dont know the extent of covid amongst the players.
Holmes was massive, given he had gastro all week, and was throwing up on the day of the game.
We will also not be able to know the full extend of King's health had on the players.

But
1. In which professional sport do you allow a senior manager to go off for job interviews with your competitors before your most important game of the year, and lose 2 days of analysis and support. Why could this meeting not be held via teams, or the eagles fly over here. Geelong are paying his salary, and there was no other week more important in his tenure.
2. Shannon needs more mongrel. He is soft, and some of his passes were diabolic. He simply Esava mark 2.
3. Mannagh lairizes too much. Missed a simple goal by trying to kick it along the ground when its a wet night. He often has brain fades, and you can see why it has taken time to get into the AFL. People need to stop excusing his mistakes.
4. Miers, showed his best and worst. Amazing goals, but some of his forward entries were rubbish.
5. Big O - you twice tried to take Stanley body out, and the karma bus came for you. Even when you were hurt Stanley didnt try to take you out.
6. There were knees to the back of Danger, Holmes, Stanley. This is the new cheats approach in the AFL.
7. Bruhn was dumped yesterday, and really hurt. No free no nothing. He then retaliated and free against. A lesson for the young man. Played very hurt in the end.
8. Zorko, the sooner this cheat finishes the better. The elbow to Ollie Henry's face should have been a 50, but alas the OPSMs didnt pay it.
9. No score review. WTF. All season the OPSM score review everything, and the one time the goal umpire should have asked for a goal review it didnt happen. AFL are seriously demented. rules on the run.
10. Zuthrie - can the GFC ask the OPSM brigade what chopping the arms is for this bloke. Skinny arms should not be a reason for him being treated any differently.
11. The Danger tackle, and the Stewart bump - OPSM moronic decision making
12. Stengle, a nightmare of a game. Missed the easiest of shots. Didnt setup players when needed to. Tries for marks that simply are not there.
13. Dempsey is soft.
14. We are desperate for an on field enforcer. need some mogrel in this team, its too soft. This team needs a Dixon or Moondog

This was a sad end to a great year. Coached well, well drilled. The Swans are going to smash these imposters.