Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 3) - The Biggest Loser

[rocket18]

I don't see it that way.

If he misses the 8 this year he's done.

100% agree he's gone if we don't make the finals.

But there's no way we don't make the finals with Davis curbing Nicks idiocy, so the club won't get rid of Nicks whilst we bumble along in the bottom half of the top 8.

It's very easy to see us having Nicks in charge for over 10 years.

 

[Cromulant]

100% agree he's gone if we don't make the finals.

But there's no way we don't make the finals with Davis curbing Nicks idiocy, so the club won't get rid of Nicks whilst we bumble along in the bottom half of the top 8.

It's very easy to see us having Nicks in charge for over 10 years.

He's in a no win position.

We don't make the 8 he's out of a job, wr DO make the 8 and it's obvious to most that Davis has made a difference.

 

[adelaidecrows]

100% agree he's gone if we don't make the finals.

But there's no way we don't make the finals with Davis curbing Nicks idiocy, so the club won't get rid of Nicks whilst we bumble along in the bottom half of the top 8.

It's very easy to see us having Nicks in charge for over 10 years.

I would like to think that if we miss finals Nicks is gone but if we have injuries then apologists will occur and the club will probably back him in for at least a portion of his remaining year.

 

[adelaidecrows]

He's in a no win position.

We don't make the 8 he's out of a job, wr DO make the 8 and it's obvious to most that Davis has made a difference.

A clever club will say Davis took pressure of Nicks so he can concentrate on preparing the team as best as possible. Which in reality is probably true. But he would also have impacted Nicks coaching by demanding Nicks be accountable for his decision making like selection, game plan and game day tactics. So to me the jury is out on this.

If Nicks becomes a premiership coach because Davis joined and made things better who cares. Well done Nicks, Davis is what we needed. Great. But if Nicks lack of coaching ability gets exposed to Davis well then its time to say goodbye. This is why I primarily think Davis was employed. To put some accountability over the coaching department. So Either Nicks does or he doesnt.

 

[kirky]

kirky .....how dare we appoint another Coach, Davis, to support Nicks ......he hasn't made Finals, so he doesn't deserve support

Man, you have such a weird view on footy matters

Yeh, all that means is Nicks isn’t up to it. If we do make finals it is because of the appointment of Davis in spite of Nick’s flaws.

I mean 5 years in and we are where we were in year 3 (2022). Nicks screwed up the first 4 weeks this year and we were chasing our tails for the rest of the year.

And Jesus, the pot calling the kettle black.

And lets see wait and see who is in the R1 side.

 

[George Kramer]

kirky .....how dare we appoint another Coach, Davis, to support Nicks ......he hasn't made Finals, so he doesn't deserve support

Man, you have such a weird view on footy matters

Did you write that last sentence with a straight face? Clearly weren’t looking in the mirror.

Nicks doesn’t need support, he’s needs someone to teach him how to coach and for a head coach in his 6th year that’s damming. Just this week Davis said his job was to “Make sure we keep on top of the ongoings of an AFL game, making sure that we are clearly going in with a plan and we are sticking to those plans” So you mean our head coach of 5 years hasn’t been doing these things?

 

[Slime Roy]

It’s apparently spending time at clubs too.

I just can’t get my head around the timing of this.

We have just come off a shit season and the club and in particular Nicks need 2025 to be a success. Wouldn’t you then want your head coach here taking charge? Wouldn’t he want to be here?

Is he that full of himself and sure of his position he thinks he can skip a chunk of preseason?

As for the club, they already shown they’ve misjudged his abilities, are they doubling down?

Who is running the show until he comes back? Surely not Burns the bloke we demoted? Davis said he’s just observing up to Xmas.

Whole thing is weird.

I heard Bicks giving it his approval last week, stating that Hardwick had attended the course (on B.Gales orders..I believe) when he was most under fire.
Ultimately returning with a strong mantra of "Connection".
Say what you will buy it seemed to work on that occasion (the bastards!)

 

[jenny61_99]

All the bitching about sending Nicks off to improve himself is diabolical. Don’t we want him to be better?

 

[George Kramer]

All the bitching about sending Nicks off to improve himself is diabolical. Don’t we want him to be better?

I want him gone and replace him with someone who can coach. No overseas junket is going to make him better when you’ve got shit judgement and that’s his issue.

So when we eventually sack him do you think it will be money well spent? Or have you swallowed what the club has said and that he’s our next premiership coach?

 

[Amacca 23]

All the bitching about sending Nicks off to improve himself is diabolical. Don’t we want him to be better?

Are you surprised ?

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[George Kramer]

Are you surprised ?

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Im not surprised you’re supportive

 

[Amacca 23]

Im not surprised you’re supportive

And im not surprised you want everybody sacked , nicks goes another coach replaces him and in 2 years you will want them sacked its your MO.Simple fact they dont improve next year he will be gone

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[jenny61_99]

I want him gone and replace him with someone who can coach. No overseas junket is going to make him better when you’ve got shit judgement and that’s his issue.

So when we eventually sack him do you think it will be money well spent? Or have you swallowed what the club has said and that he’s our next premiership coach?

The man is our coach for the next two years. Thats the cold hard truth. I’d rather they invest in him now than let him rot and **** up another season. If we always do what we’ve always done, we’ll always get what we always got. So, the choice is help him get better which in turn should help us get better. OR, do nothing and waste another season.

 

[El Doederino]

I want him gone and replace him with someone who can coach. No overseas junket is going to make him better when you’ve got shit judgement and that’s his issue.

So when we eventually sack him do you think it will be money well spent? Or have you swallowed what the club has said and that he’s our next premiership coach?

The club obviously believes that Nicks is our next Premiership coach, whether we like it or not.

So now that it has that view, I am glad the club is investing in him with this US trip and bringing in Davis.

If the club held this view but weren't prepared to invest, then what would be a concern.

 

[Amacca 23]

Its not like losing thilly , murray , butts ,worrell,rankine for 7 weeks plus had anything to do with not having a settled backline or team is it ? Take key players out of any side and they struggled , sydney lost 6 in a row with key players out

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[George Kramer]

And im not surprised you want everybody sacked , nicks goes another coach replaces him and in 2 years you will want them sacked its your MO.Simple fact they dont improve next year he will be gone

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I want underperforming idiots sacked yes, do you think we should keep them because they are employed by the club?

And no it’s no my MO, I didn’t want Pyke sacked after 2 seasons. I didn’t want Ayres sacked after 2 seasons. I didn’t want Blight sacked after 2 seasons.

Some of us think for ourselves and have a football brain. The funny thing is I identified pretty early on with Nicks some concerning stuff he said in our first preseason, these concerns have turned out to be right.

So go ahead and keep cheerleading

 

[George Kramer]

Its not like losing thilly , murray , butts ,worrell,rankine for 7 weeks plus had anything to do with not having a settled backline or team is it ? Take key players out of any side and they struggled , sydney lost 6 in a row with key players out

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What about the coach changing the gameplan and going defensive to start the season and then blaming the players? How about Pedlar on Stewart? How about subbing Nank for Smith after the showdown? How about getting Smith to his trigger and then dropping him? How about Nicks staying during the preseason he didn’t plan on playing Dowling and then the club deleting all reference to that press conference?

And that’s just this year

 

[George Kramer]

The club obviously believes that Nicks is our next Premiership coach, whether we like it or not.

So now that it has that view, I am glad the club is investing in him with this US trip and bringing in Davis.

If the club held this view but weren't prepared to invest, then what would be a concern.

It doesn’t matter what they believe, he won’t be our next premiership coach so we are throwing away good money after bad.

 

[George Kramer]

The man is our coach for the next two years. Thats the cold hard truth. I’d rather they invest in him now than let him rot and **** up another season. If we always do what we’ve always done, we’ll always get what we always got. So, the choice is help him get better which in turn should help us get better. OR, do nothing and waste another season.

No it ain’t. If we don’t make the 8 he’s gone.

Going to Harvard and touring some sporting clubs ain’t going to be the difference if we make the finals next year or not. Let’s see if he survives the year and if he does then invest in him.

 

[George Kramer]

Simple question, does anyone supporting this trip think Nicks in 5 years has shown a history of good judgement? Of making sound decisions?

Do you think an overseas trip will fix this fundamental flaw?

 

[jenny61_99]

No it ain’t. If we don’t make the 8 he’s gone.

Going to Harvard and touring some sporting clubs ain’t going to be the difference if we make the finals next year or not. Let’s see if he survives the year and if he does then invest in him.

You have no idea if it’ll make a difference or not. I would think you'd be thrilled they’ve got him as faraway from the squad as possible.

 

[George Kramer]

You have no idea if it’ll make a difference or not. I would think you'd be thrilled they’ve got him as faraway from the squad as possible.

I just want it permanent.

Read my other post, do you think Nicks has shown good judgement in 5 years and do you think that’s something that can be fixed with a few weeks overseas?

 

[Doctor B]

All the bitching about sending Nicks off to improve himself is diabolical. Don’t we want him to be better?

I’d rather we had better.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Its not like losing thilly , murray , butts ,worrell,rankine for 7 weeks plus had anything to do with not having a settled backline or team is it ? Take key players out of any side and they struggled , sydney lost 6 in a row with key players out

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We cooked our season in the 1st month thanks to a change to a crazy slow moving defensive game plan... not because of injuries.

Stop reinventing the truth as it doesn't help us going forward.

Clearly the club know Nicks isn't good at coaching & have brought in Davis to takeover much of his duties & sent Nicks off to study. The key issue is it took the club 5 years to realise he is still a rookie coach after 5 years...

 

[jenny61_99]

We cooked our season in the 1st month thanks to a change to a crazy slow moving defensive game plan... not because of injuries.

Stop reinventing the truth as it doesn't help us going forward.

Clearly the club know Nicks isn't good at coaching & have brought in Davis to takeover much of his duties & sent Nicks off to study. The key issue is it took the club 5 years to realise he is still a rookie coach after 5 years...

Oh come on Kane, the injuries absolutely didn't help though. Ignoring them is disingenuous.