Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 3) - The Biggest Loser

[tinman]

Was saving this for my season review but might as well roll it out now.


Our backline experience first four rounds of 24.
Games in brackets, might be a bit inaccurate, should be within a game or two of being correct.
Especially look at the KPD experience. This is early days GWS and GC levels of experience.
Even beyond Rd 4 was pretty bad.


Worrell (10) Butts (60) Smith (247)
Milera (96) Borlase (4) Michalanney (22)

Worrell (11)Butts (61)Smith (248)
Milera (97) Keane (10) Michalanney (23)

Worrell (12) Borlase (5) Smith (249)
Hinge (43) Keane (11)Michalanney (24)

Worrell(13)/ Nank (4) Butts (62) Smith (250)
Parnell (16) Keane (12) Michalanney (25)

Have to say Rd 3's my favourite, with 5 and 11 game key defenders and Michalanney who's played one season is the 3rd most experienced defender we have. Didn't we go really, really bad that game, wonder why?

But yer, it was all gameplan and nothing to do with personnel and their experience.

The first 4 rounds we played a slow defensive game that was absolutely painful to watch.

How did our defence line up for round 5 when we beat Carlton? We lost Parnell and brought in Hamill

 

[kirky]

The first 4 rounds we played a slow defensive game that was absolutely painful to watch.

How did our defence line up for round 5 when we beat Carlton? We lost Parnell and brought in Hamill

Not only that but other than Michalanney, all those players had been in the system for a number of years and they weren’t youngsters so games played really doesn’t stack up.

Butts - 24yo
Smith - 32yo
Hinge - 25yo
Worrell - 22yo
Keane - 23yo
Milera - 26yo

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Not only that but other than Michalanney, all those players had been in the system for a number of years and they weren’t youngsters so games played really doesn’t stack up.

Butts - 24yo
Smith - 32yo
Hinge - 25yo
Worrell - 22yo
Keane - 23yo
Milera - 26yo

Defence wasn't our problem in the 1st month as they held up well.

It was our slow ball movement & we spent from the best forward line to the 2nd worst with only 1 key forward missing for the month.

The main reason for a lack of scoring was coaching not personnel.

It's funny how many on here have changed history after what they were posting after that 1st month. Short term memories & gullibly bought the club media BS excuses once they realised we were missing finals.

Why have we brought in a new strategist from the current premiers if we were confident Nicks & Co knew what they were doing..

 

[Cromulant]

Im begrudging on us wasting money on a bloke who is a dud, I’d see how he goes next year first to see if he’s going to be our ongoing coach.

You honestly think a Harvard course and seeing some clubs is going to stop him making stupid decisions, seriously? Gameplan, sub, selection?

And you think he’s our next premiership coach?

I mean i don't know why ANYONE does this Harvard course to tell you the truth, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. But many have done it before him and many will do it after so there's obviously something to gain from it.

But I won't begrudge the club trying to help him iron out flaws etc. If it helps him 10% more than what he's got its a win. The club probably aren't going to sack him mid season if we are in or around the 8 (which we should be) so why not help him improve.

Do i think he's our next premiership coach ?? No i don't, but that's a stupid reason NOT to send someone to something you believe will help him. I'm not the world's best in my field either, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying to improve myself.

In the scheme of things, it's a very small hill to want to die on.

 

[George Kramer]

I mean i don't know why ANYONE does this Harvard course to tell you the truth, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask. But many have done it before him and many will do it after so there's obviously something to gain from it.

But I won't begrudge the club trying to help him iron out flaws etc. If it helps him 10% more than what he's got its a win. The club probably aren't going to sack him mid season if we are in or around the 8 (which we should be) so why not help him improve.

Do i think he's our next premiership coach ?? No i don't, but that's a stupid reason NOT to send someone to something you believe will help him. I'm not the world's best in my field either, but that doesn't mean I'm going to stop trying to improve myself.

In the scheme of things, it's a very small hill to want to die on.

Who is dying on a hill? I find that a cringe way of trying to dismiss someone else’s opinion.

I don’t agree with it, I don’t think it will make one iota of difference for someone with poor judgement. I think we should have waited a year to see how this year went to see if he’s coaching us in 2025.

That hardly makes me dying on a hill.

 

[George Kramer]

You won't know this .....but all Clubs are changing gameplans every 6 weeks ....they change because other Clubs work them out, or they need to tweek their own gameplan .....that's all Clubs !

You think, we run with the same gameplan all year

Do you know why SYD started like a house on fire, unbeatable at the 2/3rds mark of the season .....and then went on a terrible loss run, which carried over into Finals

The expert commentators believed SYD gave opposition sides too big a look & they were worked out

AFL footy isn't SANFL footy .....it's a moving beast

Every 6 weeks, not the first time you sprouted this bullshit, how about you back it up?

Gees you’ve changed your tune from when you called his change of gameplan, Nicks going rogue bonkers.

You can’t hide from that statement, I won’t let you

 

[George Kramer]

Hey, get you facts right .....COLL fell off the perch after the Byes

Nothing to do with taking a while to get up & running .....do some research

Collingwood started the year 0-3 and missed the 8 on percentage, my research is just fine.

There was commentary at the time that they came into the season with big heads in celebration mode.

 

[Cromulant]

Who is dying on a hill? I find that a cringe way of trying to dismiss someone else’s opinion.

I don’t agree with it, I don’t think it will make one iota of difference for someone with poor judgement. I think we should have waited a year to see how this year went to see if he’s coaching us in 2025.

That hardly makes me dying on a hill.

You seem to go from 0 to 100 pretty quickly though, you have no way of knowing for sure whether it'll help or not (neither do i). If it DOES help then it's money well spent, and if it doesn't.... who cares.

I don't see him missing 2 weeks of pre season as a big deal.

 

[George Kramer]

You seem to go from 0 to 100 pretty quickly though, you have no way of knowing for sure whether it'll help or not (neither do i). If it DOES help then it's money well spent, and if it doesn't.... who cares.

I don't see him missing 2 weeks of pre season as a big deal.

No I haven’t, my opinion is he has poor judgement and no amount of school or touring clubs will make one ounce of difference and it won’t help us win games.

You don’t mind blowing our cash, which goes towards our soft cap, that’s fine. I would have waited a year to see if he’s coaching us in 2025 first.

 

[Cromulant]

No I haven’t, my opinion is he has poor judgement and no amount of school or touring clubs will make one ounce of difference and it won’t help us win games.

You don’t mind blowing our cash, which goes towards our soft cap, that’s fine. I would have waited a year to see if he’s coaching us in 2025 first.

I don't think it actually blows that much though, that's the thing.

Certainly not enough to worry about it costing anyone a job. The only thing I might have done is send someone like Hombsch or Panos with him.

New coaches to the system.

 

[George Kramer]

I don't think it actually blows that much though, that's the thing.

Certainly not enough to worry about it costing anyone a job. The only thing I might have done is send someone like Hombsch or Panos with him.

New coaches to the system.

How much do you think a Harvard course, flights, accomodation, transport, food etc costs?

 

[beartoo]

You won't know this .....but all Clubs are changing gameplans every 6 weeks ....they change because other Clubs work them out, or they need to tweek their own gameplan .....that's all Clubs !

You think, we run with the same gameplan all year

Do you know why SYD started like a house on fire, unbeatable at the 2/3rds mark of the season .....and then went on a terrible loss run, which carried over into Finals

The expert commentators believed SYD gave opposition sides too big a look & they were worked out

AFL footy isn't SANFL footy .....it's a moving beast

No club changes game plan every 6 weeks. That is ludicrous.

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[kirky]

How much do you think a Harvard course, flights, accomodation, transport, food etc costs?

I hope he wasn’t flying Business Class.

 

[cleanhands]

I hope he wasn’t flying Business Class.

I’m hoping he’s walking

 

[George Kramer]

Oh Wayne, coaches change game plan every 6 weeks do they? Your post seems to contradict this

 

[WaynesWorld19]

No club changes game plan every 6 weeks. That is ludicrous.

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Direct from the mouth of David King ....as someone who's played and coached at AFL level ....he has cred

You took the comment at face value ....I'm not sure what changes you expect to see, but have a bit of a think about it

1. Do you think in R1, with 2 x KPF's out that we continued to bomb the ball long ? .....do you think the gameplan is different with 3 tall KPF versus 1 ?

2. Have you seen games where we've switched from kicking to talls ....to having hit-up targets ?

3. Do you think a Club need to change when players are being tagged

4. Take my earlier post on Cook, look at his heat map, as an example .....almost each game had a different role / positioning

5. Do you believe we need to vary slightly for other teams gameplans ? ......one game Dawson plays FWD, the next in DEF

Maybe you're just not noticing the changes ......or do you think we just play the same gameplan for 23 weeks of the year

 

[George Kramer]

Direct from the mouth of David King ....as someone who's played and coached at AFL level ....he has cred

You took the comment at face value ....I'm not sure what changes you expect to see, but have a bit of a think about it

1. Do you think in R1, with 2 x KPF's out that we continued to bomb the ball long ? .....do you think the gameplan is different with 3 tall KPF versus 1 ?

2. Have you seen games where we've switched from kicking to talls ....to having hit-up targets ?

3. Do you think a Club need to change when players are being tagged

4. Take my earlier post on Cook, look at his heat map, as an example .....almost each game had a different role / positioning

5. Do you believe we need to vary slightly for other teams gameplans ? ......one game Dawson plays FWD, the next in DEF

Maybe you're just not noticing the changes ......or do you think we just play the same gameplan for 23 weeks of the year

You are talking about tweaks of your game plan, it’s called coaching, not fundamental change in gameplan over a preseason and during a season.

Why don’t you go back and read some of your old posts, Kane and I have kindly bumped them for you.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

You are talking about tweaks of your game plan, it’s called coaching, not fundamental change in gameplan over a preseason and during a season.

Why don’t you go back and read some of your old posts, Kane and I have kindly bumped them for you.

Now known as Flip Flop.

 

[George Kramer]

Now known as Flip Flop.

Do you reckon he will just slink away again?

Bit like when he was bagging Wilkies disposal and I showed he was rated as elite and others pointed out he made AA and won the B&F

 

[spenze]

I hope he wasn’t flying Business Class.

He isn't Albo FFS

 

[beartoo]

Direct from the mouth of David King ....as someone who's played and coached at AFL level ....he has cred

You took the comment at face value ....I'm not sure what changes you expect to see, but have a bit of a think about it

1. Do you think in R1, with 2 x KPF's out that we continued to bomb the ball long ? .....do you think the gameplan is different with 3 tall KPF versus 1 ?

2. Have you seen games where we've switched from kicking to talls ....to having hit-up targets ?

3. Do you think a Club need to change when players are being tagged

4. Take my earlier post on Cook, look at his heat map, as an example .....almost each game had a different role / positioning

5. Do you believe we need to vary slightly for other teams gameplans ? ......one game Dawson plays FWD, the next in DEF

Maybe you're just not noticing the changes ......or do you think we just play the same gameplan for 23 weeks of the year

That's a lot of words.
Don't know where you get your info from but mine comes from a conversation with Josh Jenkins backed up by other Crow players present at the time. It takes 6 months to learn a gameplan that is implemented in round 1. The plan is tweaked depending on opposition and other variables.
I repeat, no AFL team changes its gameplan every 6 weeks. That is ridiculous.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

That's a lot of words.
Don't know where you get your info from but mine comes from a conversation with Josh Jenkins backed up by other Crow players present at the time. It takes 6 months to learn a gameplan that is implemented in round 1. The plan is tweaked depending on opposition and other variables.
I repeat, no AFL team changes its gameplan every 6 weeks. That is ridiculous.

OK ...so David King is a liar

 

[Carmo]

OK ...so David King is a liar

Yous are both saying the same thing. No team does wholesale changes to their gameplan every 6 weeks, no team doesn't do minor changes to their gameplan at least a few times a season.

 

[cleanhands]

That's a lot of words.
Don't know where you get your info from but mine comes from a conversation with Josh Jenkins backed up by other Crow players present at the time. It takes 6 months to learn a gameplan that is implemented in round 1. The plan is tweaked depending on opposition and other variables.
I repeat, no AFL team changes its gameplan every 6 weeks. That is ridiculous.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

OK ...so David King is a liar

Either you misheard David King or he has nfi!

Coaches set game plans & tweak them during the year for different opposition & to improve. Game plans don't stay the same, but the overall philosophy don't change every 6 weeks... only pre-season.

Anyone who knows football knows this.

For once admit you got this very wrong... or keep digging yet again as we all laugh our arses off... again.