Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 3) - The Biggest Loser

[Mutineer]

Mate, that's Glenelg, be a few on our current list that would struggle to get a game in the Bays seniors

So you reckon the Bays chased Patty Parnell to play him in the reserves?

 

[spenze]

So you reckon the Bays chased Patty Parnell to play him in the reserves?

Mascot

 

[cleanhands]

Mate, that's Glenelg, be a few on our current list that would struggle to get a game in the Bays seniors

Stop giving out so many brown paper bags will make it easier

 

[cleanhands]

Mascot

A Tiger cub

 

[spenze]

A Tiger cub

He'd be Tiny Tiger, next to our full sized mascot "Tony".

Our clubs doing so well, it has two mascots

 

[cleanhands]

He'd be Tiny Tiger, next to our full sized mascot "Tony".

Our clubs doing so well, it has two mascots

Both well paid

 

[Mutineer]

Mascot

You already have the mascot Hunter Window..

Patty Parnell>>>>>>>>>>>Hunter Window

 

[cleanhands]

You already have the mascot Hunter Window..

Patty Parnell>>>>>>>>>>>Hunter Window

One could be the head the other the tail, you would nearly have a full size Tiger then

 

[mcleod at 50 lines it up]

Does he have too much say in what goes on?

Nope, been alluded to that he's the football voice on the board. Probably has done himself no favours by making the occasional disrespectful comment towards fans or outgoing players.

The main reason the crows have always been a mediocre club is because of its bigness im not sure if it's the same with west coast, but the crows support is much greater than is made out in the media. So the club can take a lot of punishment and without a membership vote there's no shortage of people who have been willing to take advantage for self interest rather than trying to win a premiership

 

[dinnaz]

Nope, been alluded to that he's the football voice on the board. Probably has done himself no favours by making the occasional disrespectful comment towards fans or outgoing players.

The main reason the crows have always been a mediocre club is because of its bigness im not sure if it's the same with west coast, but the crows support is much greater than is made out in the media. So the club can take a lot of punishment and without a membership vote there's no shortage of people who have been willing to take advantage for self interest rather than trying to win a premiership

I've always thought that you guys have had a pretty good record!

WA is different. Very corporate. Footy is the thing to do in town, rather than something to support.
Those at the top have been (traditionally) very settled and savvy and somewhat unknown entities.

 

[Cap]

Why do you think the club brought in Davis?

Sorry for the old quote here, but this question that came up over Christmas

Me, with what I think is the big footy view Nick's isn't up to it, needs help, the club is basically patching cracks.

Everyone else, Nick's is good enough club didn't get him the support he needed early, should be good now.

It seems he has support in the general population of Crows fans unless I found the 20 or so Crows fans who back him

 

[GreyCrow]

Sorry for the old quote here, but this question that came up over Christmas

Me, with what I think is the big footy view Nick's isn't up to it, needs help, the club is basically patching cracks.

Yes

Everyone else, Nick's is good enough club didn't get him the support he needed early, should be good now.

Maybe but again no excuses. I personally don't think he is good enough but hopefully he recognises what he is good at and leave Davis the rest

 

[Cap]

Yes

Maybe but again no excuses. I personally don't think he is good enough but hopefully he recognises what he is good at and leave Davis the rest

I feel like its a no win situation for the Nicks isn't up to it camp.

If, as expected, we improve, its easy to now point to extra support being provided as the driver. Rather than acknowledging Nicks needed someone to do what he isn't capable of doing.

I'm all for finals 2025 in the end .

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Yes

Maybe but again no excuses. I personally don't think he is good enough but hopefully he recognises what he is good at and leave Davis the rest

OK ....until 2 months ago, no-one on this board had ever heard of Davis, or what he actually has done at BRIS (apart from press reports)

Did Davis develop the BRIS gameplan .....you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe he did, over Fagan

So based on no knowledge of the man, having not seen anything of him .....suddenly he's the saviour ? ......what lunacy

People still do not understand Davis's role .....that would require critical thinking ....but I can assure you, he's not developing the gameplan .....a gameplan that ultimately Nicks holds responsibility for

 

[George Kramer]

Sorry for the old quote here, but this question that came up over Christmas

Me, with what I think is the big footy view Nick's isn't up to it, needs help, the club is basically patching cracks.

Everyone else, Nick's is good enough club didn't get him the support he needed early, should be good now.

It seems he has support in the general population of Crows fans unless I found the 20 or so Crows fans who back him

What you’ll find generally supporters of a club who aren’t tragics will just back in the coach and club because they see that as being their job as a supporter.

Those same supporters when eventually a coach does get the sack will fall in line and back the decision.

Very few supporters actually take the time to think about what the issues are beyond what the club has told them and that’s injuries, depth and more support. A club would never publicly criticise their coach especially after re-signing them, that then turns the focus on to them and their failure to appoint the right people.

Essentially many supporters are just theatre going cheerleaders and we have some that fit the bill here even if they are tragics and should know better.

 

[George Kramer]

OK ....until 2 months ago, no-one on this board had ever heard of Davis, or what he actually has done at BRIS (apart from press reports)

Did Davis develop the BRIS gameplan .....you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe he did, over Fagan

So based on no knowledge of the man, having not seen anything of him .....suddenly he's the saviour ? ......what lunacy

People still do not understand Davis's role .....that would require critical thinking ....but I can assure you, he's not developing the gameplan .....a gameplan that ultimately Nicks holds responsibility for

Tim Silvers “Davis role is gameplan, implementation, managing assistant coaches and development”

Davis “my role is to initially observe, but then ensure we go into a game with a plan, stick to it and manage running a football game”

So tell me oh critical thinker, why do you think the club has brought in Davis, created this position? What has Nicks been doing this whole time?

Clearly we’ve gone down the Port path, have a head coach who is good at relationships and managing the media, but leaving the core coaching to others. Maybe they’ve seen this model can get your team into the finals when Nicks clearly hasn’t been able to.

 

[maxlilly]

Tim Silvers “Davis role is gameplan, implementation, managing assistant coaches and development”

Davis “my role is to initially observe, but then ensure we go into a game with a plan, stick to it and manage running a football game”

So tell me oh critical thinker, why do you think the club has brought in Davis, created this position? What has Nicks been doing this whole time?

Clearly we’ve gone down the Port path, have a head coach who is good at relationships and managing the media, but leaving the core coaching to others. Maybe they’ve seen this model can get your team into the finals when Nicks clearly hasn’t been able to.

It's pretty obvious why we got Davis, you don't even need to be a critical thinker to know that.
After 5 years of coaching and finishing 15th tells you all you need to know.

 

[Cap]

OK ....until 2 months ago, no-one on this board had ever heard of Davis, or what he actually has done at BRIS (apart from press reports)

Did Davis develop the BRIS gameplan .....you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe he did, over Fagan

So based on no knowledge of the man, having not seen anything of him .....suddenly he's the saviour ? ......what lunacy

People still do not understand Davis's role .....that would require critical thinking ....but I can assure you, he's not developing the gameplan .....a gameplan that ultimately Nicks holds responsibility for

i think people see experienced assistant from Premiership winning team and assume some sort of input to that position.

I don't think he is the saviour, but did the club get him to look like they were doing something or because he can add to the team?

 

[Cap]

What you’ll find generally supporters of a club who aren’t tragics will just back in the coach and club because they see that as being their job as a supporter.

Those same supporters when eventually a coach does get the sack will fall in line and back the decision.

Very few supporters actually take the time to think about what the issues are beyond what the club has told them and that’s injuries, depth and more support. A club would never publicly criticise their coach especially after re-signing them, that then turns the focus on to them and their failure to appoint the right people.

Essentially many supporters are just theatre going cheerleaders and we have some that fit the bill here even if they are tragics and should know better.

I was just suprised that after 5 years people didn't question bringing in someone like Davis

even if I take a step back and listen to what Davis and the club has said, it sounds like corporate lingo for , we are trying to fix a problem the current employees can't seem to address

 

[George Kramer]

i think people see experienced assistant from Premiership winning team and assume some sort of input to that position.

I don't think he is the saviour, but did the club get him to look like they were doing something or because he can add to the team?

Dawson was raving about Davis, “no ego”.

When asked what feedback he gave Nicks “prefer to keep that in house”

 

[George Kramer]

I was just suprised that after 5 years people didn't question bringing in someone like Davis

even if I take a step back and listen to what Davis and the club has said, it sounds like corporate lingo for , we are trying to fix a problem the current employees can't seem to address

Not surprising, seen any Nicks lovers on here question it?

 

[Slime Roy]

Dawson was raving about Davis, “no ego”.

When asked what feedback he gave Nicks “prefer to keep that in house”

I swore he said "in the out-house"

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

OK ....until 2 months ago, no-one on this board had ever heard of Davis, or what he actually has done at BRIS (apart from press reports)

Did Davis develop the BRIS gameplan .....you'd have to be pretty stupid to believe he did, over Fagan

So based on no knowledge of the man, having not seen anything of him .....suddenly he's the saviour ? ......what lunacy

People still do not understand Davis's role .....that would require critical thinking ....but I can assure you, he's not developing the gameplan .....a gameplan that ultimately Nicks holds responsibility for

Yes he is, the Crows have said as much that Davis will be developing the game plan. Surely you dont think they are liars?

Funny everytime use the term critical thinking, it's really been incorrect thinking!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Tim Silvers “Davis role is gameplan, implementation, managing assistant coaches and development”

Davis “my role is to initially observe, but then ensure we go into a game with a plan, stick to it and manage running a football game”

So tell me oh critical thinker, why do you think the club has brought in Davis, created this position? What has Nicks been doing this whole time?

Clearly we’ve gone down the Port path, have a head coach who is good at relationships and managing the media, but leaving the core coaching to others. Maybe they’ve seen this model can get your team into the finals when Nicks clearly hasn’t been able to.

Exactly!

It's like WaynesWorld19 has fingers in hid ears!

The club has specifically outlined Davis'role yet WW keeps claiming he knows more than the club leaders who employed him.

 

[George Kramer]

Yes he is, the Crows have said as much that Davis will be developing the game plan. Surely you dont think they are liars?

Funny everytime use the term critical thinking, it's really been incorrect thinking!

Is there anything more damaging to Nicks than Davis’s comment “we go into a game with a plan and we stick to it”

What does that say about the way Nicks coaches?