Toast McRae era (2022-) = see OP

[Drought Break]

I get a lot of facebook reels with McRae and his interactions and talks with the playing group. Next level manager and a major factor in why we are such a strong unit.

 

[Pie eyed]

We’re here to talk about actual greatness. It’s a thread about Fly.

Here is Buckleys win rate for games decided by 6 points or less:

2012-2020
W. L. D.
9 14 2
36% win rate

2014-2020
W. L. D.
5 14 2
23% win rate

2018-2020
W. L. D.
2 6 1
22% win rate

*noting I’m not even bothering to update for bucks full period of coaching to 2021. Why waste my time on it… I called out his ordinary record for over half a decade. Spent way too much time yelling at the sky about his poor coaching record in close games and fighting online with people defending his mediocrity.

Buckleys win rate in close games is clearly the polar opposite to Fly. Bucks (in 2018-2020 when we finally made finals) lost close games 78% of the time, while the coach of our 16th Premiership wins in close games 78% of the time (in the 2022-2024 when we’ve made finals)

Anyways, my point was. The Buckley era is over. His record as coach is ordinary. No cup. One choke job in GF and another choke job in 2019 PF, poor man management, constantly bagging players publicly (still throwing stones at Stephenson) and leading the club to its worst position in history of 17th. Not to mention the piss poor treatment of Treloar, Lumumba and other 2010 premiership players etc etc.

The coaches: Nathan Buckley

Coach: 2012-2021 (part)Games coached: 218 Few Collingwood coaches have had as dramatic a tenure as Nathan Buckley endured – and sometimes enjoyed – over his nearly 10 seasons in the top job. Partly that was because of his pre-coaching status as one of the game’s greatest ever players, but mostly...

forever.collingwoodfc.com.au

Even the Collingwood Forever website highlights his “bleak” record.

Hopefully, while Buckley led us to desperately hopeless position of 17th on the ladder, Fly will lead us to the winners podium to lift our 17th cup! The stark difference between the two is Black and White for all to see.

Fly is the real deal. Any mention of Bucks in this thread is an insult to Fly’s greatness. Show some respect to Mr McRae please.


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I think you're just having a rant about close finishes.
Buckley's win percentage is above Neil craig , Ron Barassi, Pul Roos, Dennis Pagan, John Worsfold, Grant Thomas, Ross Lyon, Brad Scott, John Northy, Rodney Eade, John Cahill, Graham Cornes, Robert Walls and Neale Balme just to name the better regarded.
Of the 32 coaches who have coached 200 games or more he is midfield 18th, being one of only 26 in that metric to reach GF.
As a yardstick Malthouse coached 710 matches, the most of any coach for 2 Flags.
Buckley but for a 50/50 call (some would say a clear free ) a fingernail away from a flag.

Your post is just worthless nay saying.

A coach who won every game by 10 goals would look bad in the comparison you are attempting to make.

That said McRae is an outstanding coach win/Loss and close games wise and I am not disputing that.
Comparing apple with oranges is pointless though.

 

[NMBB]

.....As a yardstick Malthouse coached 710 matches, the most of any coach for 2 Flags.....

Didn't Malthouse coach 3 flags -
2 @ WCE, 1 @ Pies?

 

[caloschwaby]

Fly's record in games decided by 2 goals or less
R5 2022: 7L to Brisbane
R6 2022: 11W to Essendon
R11 2022: 4W to Carlton
R12 2022: 4W to Hawthorn
R15 2022: 11W to GWS
R16 2022: 5W to Gold Coast
R17 2022: 7W to North Melbourne
R18 2022: 5W to Adelaide
R19 2022: 4W to Essendon
R20 2022: 6W to Port Adelaide
R21 2022: 7W to Melbourne
R23 2022: 1W to Carlton
QF 2022: 6L to Geelong
PF 2022: 1L to Sydney
R5 2023: 6W to St Kilda
R7 2023: 1W to Adelaide
R13 2023: 4L to Melbourne
R15 2023: 2W to Adelaide
R17 2023: 12W to Western Bulldogs
R19 2023: 2W to Port Adelaide
R22 2023: 8W to Geelong
QF 2023: 7W to Melbourne
PF 2023: 1W to GWS Giants
GF 2023: 4W to Brisbane
R4 2024: 5W to Hawthorn
R7 2024: D to Essendon
R8 2024: W6 to Carlton

Record in games decided by 12 or less: 22-1-4
Record in games decided by 6 or less: 15-1-3

Just a fluke

 

[Mollythedolly]

Didn't Malthouse coach 3 flags -
2 @ WCE, 1 @ Pies?

There was that year at Carlton where he couldn’t see them losing a game as well, surely he got the flag then.

 

[Pie eyed]

Didn't Malthouse coach 3 flags -
2 @ WCE, 1 @ Pies?

3, Points still valid.
Buckley was no hack and how many close games you win is not a metric of greatness in itself.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

OP updated after Round 9.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

2024 stats

GAMES:
[*] Darcy Cameron = 9
[*] Mason Cox = 9
[*] Jack Crisp = 9
[*] Josh Daicos = 9
[*] Nick Daicos = 9
[*] Bobby Hill = 9
[*] Patrick Lipinski = 9
[*] Brayden Maynard = 9
[*] Darcy Moore = 9
[*] Scott Pendlebury = 9
[*] Isaac Quaynor = 9
[*] Jamie Elliott = 8
[*] Beau McCreery = 8
[*] Brody Mihocek = 8
[*] Lachie Schultz = 8
[*] Steele Sidebottom = 8
[*] Will Hoskin-Elliott = 8
[*] Jeremy Howe = 8
[*] Jordan De Goey = 7
[*] John Noble = 7
[*] Billy Frampton = 7
[*] Tom Mitchell = 6
[*] Reef McInnes = 5
[*] Oleg Markov = 5
[*] Finlay Macrae = 4
[*] Harvey Harrison = 3
[*] Charlie Dean = 2
[*] Ash Johnson = 2
[*] Lachie Sullivan = 2
[*] Jack Bytel = 1
[*] Joe Richards = 1

GOALS:
[*] Brody Mihocek = 14
[*] Jamie Elliott = 14
[*] Bobby Hill = 12
[*] Lachie Schultz = 9
[*] Reef McInnes = 9
[*] Patrick Lipinski = 9
[*] Nick Daicos = 7
[*] Beau McCreery = 6
[*] Will Hoskin-Elliott = 5
[*] Darcy Cameron = 4
[*] Mason Cox = 3
[*] Finlay Macrae = 3
[*] Jack Crisp = 3
[*] Josh Daicos = 3
[*] Jordan De Goey = 2
[*] Scott Pendlebury = 2
[*] Brayden Maynard = 2
[*] Harvey Harrison = 2
[*] Lachie Sullivan = 2
[*] Tom Mitchell = 1
[*] Joe Richards = 1
[*] Jeremy Howe = 1

 

[MooreTreloar]

Thanks! Love this time of the week!

It’s always great getting to see a running update.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

OP updated after Round 10.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

2024 stats

GAMES:
[*] Darcy Cameron = 10
[*] Mason Cox = 10
[*] Jack Crisp = 10
[*] Josh Daicos = 10
[*] Nick Daicos = 10
[*] Bobby Hill = 10
[*] Patrick Lipinski = 10
[*] Brayden Maynard = 10
[*] Darcy Moore = 10
[*] Scott Pendlebury = 10
[*] Isaac Quaynor = 10
[*] Lachie Schultz = 9
[*] Steele Sidebottom = 9
[*] Will Hoskin-Elliott = 9
[*] Jamie Elliott = 8
[*] Beau McCreery = 8
[*] Brody Mihocek = 8
[*] Jeremy Howe = 8
[*] Jordan De Goey = 8
[*] John Noble = 8
[*] Billy Frampton = 8
[*] Tom Mitchell = 6
[*] Reef McInnes = 6
[*] Oleg Markov = 6
[*] Finlay Macrae = 5
[*] Harvey Harrison = 4
[*] Lachie Sullivan = 3
[*] Charlie Dean = 2
[*] Ash Johnson = 2
[*] Joe Richards = 2
[*] Jack Bytel = 1

GOALS:
[*] Brody Mihocek = 14
[*] Jamie Elliott = 14
[*] Bobby Hill = 13
[*] Reef McInnes = 11
[*] Lachie Schultz = 10
[*] Patrick Lipinski = 9
[*] Nick Daicos = 7
[*] Beau McCreery = 6
[*] Will Hoskin-Elliott = 6
[*] Darcy Cameron = 4
[*] Scott Pendlebury = 4
[*] Jordan De Goey = 4
[*] Jack Crisp = 4
[*] Mason Cox = 3
[*] Finlay Macrae = 3
[*] Josh Daicos = 3
[*] Brayden Maynard = 2
[*] Harvey Harrison = 2
[*] Lachie Sullivan = 2
[*] Joe Richards = 2
[*] Tom Mitchell = 1
[*] Jeremy Howe = 1
[*] John Noble = 1