Coach Men's Senior Coach: Brad Scott

[Dave]

Blue collar is a state of mind. If you ascend from the blue collar world it's offensive to be called white collared.

Shiny Bum was what my Grandad called white collar. Always found it apt.

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Yeah fair enough.. he is likely a smart guy. But he clearly lacked something in his communication ability. He couldn't explain himself cleanly to the camera / media / supporters and he obviously couldn't get the message through to players.

I know you stand by where he said we need to go - and I agree with the direction he proposed. But honestly, anyone could have stood up and said the same thing about blue collar, defence first footy.

Truck is well regarded in club land so there's no doubt he has skills and insights. But it's not enough to say he was advocating the right direction. Your job as a coach is to teach. So maybe more accurately I should have said Truck was not talented enough to execute his vision.

Truck would easily be as smart as Goodwin or Hinkley who have both have had sustained success at the top for quite a while. He is touted as the brains behind the backbone of Richmond's defensive setup during their premiership run and guys like Leppa are still riding off his coattails.

I think our situation just became an avalanche during last year. Mismanagement from the board behind the scenes, injuries, fitness, not a lot of depth, hard draw to start the year and on top of that, the list was still bottom 8 calibre. Pile all that on top of a young coach and it's easy to see how the wheels fell off.

But still, he did a lot of things right. Players loved him. He made big calls around Hooker, Bellchambers, Zaka etc which I think were for the betterment of the club. He did a good job connecting current players with the history of the club and their respective numbers. It just wasn't his time, but I am sure it will come again in the future.

 

[jmoo wan]

Calling football folk smart is like calling drummers musically gifted.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Truck would easily be as smart as Goodwin or Hinkley who have both have had sustained success at the top for quite a while. He is touted as the brains behind the backbone of Richmond's defensive setup during their premiership run and guys like Leppa are still riding off his coattails.

I think our situation just became an avalanche during last year. Mismanagement from the board behind the scenes, injuries, fitness, not a lot of depth, hard draw to start the year and on top of that, the list was still bottom 8 calibre. Pile all that on top of a young coach and it's easy to see how the wheels fell off.

But still, he did a lot of things right. Players loved him. He made big calls around Hooker, Bellchambers, Zaka etc which I think were for the betterment of the club. He did a good job connecting current players with the history of the club and their respective numbers. It just wasn't his time, but I am sure it will come again in the future.

I’m not sure it will.

I haven’t seen anything to say his communication is up to scratch. A hard draw doesn’t change the fact the players didn’t understand his instruction. They liked him because he is a good relationship builder. As a fan listening I won’t hear the same message as the players but I’ll hear the same syntax and clarity of thought (or lack of) that they do.

Picture a successful coach. Picture their presence and ability to cut through. Malthouse, Matthews, even Hardwick.

 

[citizen-erased]

His collar looks red in the pic

 

[Lore]

Blue vs white collar has lost a lot of it's meaning over the past few decades anyway. These days the class divide is home owner vs renter

Reminds me of this article from a few years ago;

Think Australia is classless? There's actually six of them

Australia might like to consider itself a classless society. But new methods of social modelling tell a far more complicated story.

www.abc.net.au

6 classes defined by social and cultural capital, rather than by job… which means a white collar worker could be anything from “precariat” to “established affluent” depending on how much they earn, who they socialise with and the types of hobbies they have.

 

[Lore]

His collar looks red in the pic

Advertising collar, the collar of the human billboard

 

[HirdyLannister]

The main question we should be asking, did he touch his nose?

 

[frodos gardener]

But still, he did a lot of things right. Players loved him. He made big calls around Hooker, Bellchambers, Zaka etc which I think were for the betterment of the club. He did a good job connecting current players with the history of the club and their respective numbers. It just wasn't his time, but I am sure it will come again in the future.

Didn’t Hooksy call it himself?

 

[Westlo]

I like how Brad coaches from the box. I don’t know why but I can’t stand it when coaches are coaching from the boundary line. It gives me bad vibes.

I agree but it's such a shit thing to try and hang on a coach like many did with Rutten last year. Not many people lining up to tell Hinkley and McRae to go back to the box right now....

 

[Happyskeret]

I agree but it's such a s**t thing to try and hang on a coach like many did with Rutten last year. Not many people lining up to tell Hinkley and McRae to go back to the box right now....

Just saying it was a personal thing I like about Brad. I wasn’t even thinking of Truck or anyone else for that matter when I’ve said it. I just think in general when coaches are by the boundary line they start acting like goofy supporters. Is there any harm in it? Probably not but it just doesn’t vibe with me.

 

[Doss]

I’m red collar fwiw

 

[justlookingaround]

I like how Brad coaches from the box. I don’t know why but I can’t stand it when coaches are coaching from the boundary line. It gives me bad vibes.

I think it's each to their own and also depends on the type of coach someone is. I don't have an issue with it at all in theory, think it's probably better for some guys and is sometimes a beneficial circuit breaker - but when it was someone like Truck coaching on the bench it felt pretty clear that it was due to him feeling like his message wasn't getting across from up in the box, which obviously spoke to bigger issues. Like, everyone just looked visibly uncomfortable with him being there. Himself included.

At suburban footy games the coach usually stands on the sidelines literally coaching the entire game by way of yelling tips and encouragement to the players. This is the vibe I get from Hinkley, McCrae, Fagan, Voss too - although he's giving similar vibes to Truck - they are all apparently guys whose coaching skillsets are more in line with motivation and man management than as tactical coaches.

 

[jdstorm]

I think what’s really getting lost here in the truck vs scott conversation is the impact of Merrett as captain and the extra resources being poured into the football department.

Teams tend to take on the personality of their captains and in the past Merretts drive and determination has been seen as a negative. Now it’s the standard that everyone has to keep up with to fit in.

 

[Zach Package]

I’m red collar fwiw

I wear band collars, I find them better for airflow.

What does that make me?

 

[Beerfish]

I wear band collars, I find them better for airflow.

What does that make me?

Odd looking.

 

[Lore]

I think it's each to their own and also depends on the type of coach someone is. I don't have an issue with it at all in theory, think it's probably better for some guys and is sometimes a beneficial circuit breaker - but when it was someone like Truck coaching on the bench it felt pretty clear that it was due to him feeling like his message wasn't getting across from up in the box, which obviously spoke to bigger issues. Like, everyone just looked visibly uncomfortable with him being there. Himself included.

At suburban footy games the coach usually stands on the sidelines literally coaching the entire game by way of yelling tips and encouragement to the players. This is the vibe I get from Hinkley, McCrae, Fagan, Voss too - although he's giving similar vibes to Truck - they are all apparently guys whose coaching skillsets are more in line with motivation and man management than as tactical coaches.

The last paragraph describes the VFLW too — last week the camera was positioned near our bench, you could hear the coaches yelling instructions to our players really clearly in the video stream.

 

[scythe]

Calling football folk smart is like calling drummers musically gifted.

Hey, I resemble that remark.

 

[jmoo wan]

Hey, I resemble that remark.

i’m just joking - i actually really appreciate the skills drummers have - Ive played Rock Band on XBox a lot and sometimes it takes me a couple of goes to ace the drum tracks

 

[Pweter]

This week presents a very different challenge for Scott. We're playing a team that's been stung badly, is copping it from all angles, is gaining a few senior heads and playing at home. We're in an emotional let down spot having come off an unbelievably tough 6 or 7 weeks and a last gasp win in a marquee game against a side we just don't beat and playing on the other side of the country.

All things being equal we should win and win well. It'll be interesting to see how Scott gets them up and how it pans out.

 

[Dave]

The last paragraph describes the VFLW too — last week the camera was positioned near our bench, you could hear the coaches yelling instructions to our players really clearly in the video stream.

They do it in the NFL too, though they also have people watching from above. Not sure it’s a big deal either way.

 

[Lore]

They do it in the NFL too, though they also have people watching from above. Not sure it’s a big deal either way.

It’s not a big deal, just depends where the coaches’ strengths are and what team they have around them. If you have an analyst that you’re paying to read stats then you’re not gonna sit up there and do it yourself.

As a fan it’s nice to hear what the coaches are saying though

 

[rumply]

Calling football folk smart is like calling drummers musically gifted.

I might have taken offence to that in another lifetime

 

[Petrify]

Thought this article was complete fluff back then but I'm starting to believe. Given our main two assistants are Gia and Caracella who many think are future head coaches, I reckon Scott is probably getting the best out of them too

“The best coaching panel I’ve ever seen”: Essendon set to improve in 2023, says new assistant

“This is the best coaching panel I’ve seen, even when I was playing.”

www.sen.com.au

 

[The Devils Advocate]

Shiny Bum was what my Grandad called white collar. Always found it apt.

Haha yeah, for some reason my grandad always said that white collar people had servants to pick their noses for them.
As somebody who moved up the socioeconomic chain to the middle from the very bottom, where's my snot servant?