Mitch McGovern 2: As The Worm Turns (read the OP)

[Sanders]

Far out you're a frustrating poster, just can't admit there are other people out there who have more informed opinions than you.

whoosh

 

[Sanders]

He was rated top 20 talent the year before and went undrafted

Think that was the year he plain missed WA state league team training

Not seeing any reference to being super highly rated, just a hope he gets taken at all

 

[BACCS]

If true, then the expectation of him should be what fans had for Doedee. Big expectations on him now.

If he genuinely was going to go 15-20, then it does change my view on the trade. He becomes the 3rd most valuable commodity in the overall trade, behind Gov and 13. Versus my feeling of him being the least valuable, as I thought he would be a late pick/rookie, so not even worth 40 or next years 3rd.

It is true. He beat NicNat’s vertical leap record at draft camp, that’s why the comparisons to Gov are there. Clubs were just waiting to see if he could get the off field stuff fixed, which he seems to have done. There was never any question on whether his talent was good enough for AFL level.

 

[I_Was_There]

There are some very good phantom drafters, but you'll often notice they don't last long as clubs take them on an scouts.

Oh for the day when we had the insights of Wall-ee (was that how it was written?)

 

[Sanders]

I can categorically say for a fact (from a recruiting friend of mine at another club) that McAdam was rated within the top 20 this year, the best mature aged talent in this draft were his words. Only reason he went undrafted a couple of years ago is for off field related stuff.

Lol.

What else does Mr Snuffalufagus say?

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Not seeing any reference to being super highly rated, just a hope he gets taken at all

Yes sorry more potential to be a top 20 talent but then went undrafted

Think he may have kicked 30-40 goals the year before while terribly unfit
Ps we are talking about Liam here I presumed ?

 

[Sanders]

There are some very good phantom drafters, but you'll often notice they don't last long as clubs take them on an scouts.

Often?

Such as...

 

[Sanders]

Yes, he was absolutely rated top 20. You can believe it or not, but Reid and a direct source of mine have both said the same thing, people who study the draft a heck of a lot closer than any of us. Like any draft pick, there is a risk, but the odds are definitely in our favour. How does anyone know Rankine will be a certain gun at AFL level? No one does, that's why drafting isn't an exact science.

A direct source of yours yet you never mentioned it before and didn’t even have a post about McAdam until yesterday?

Today, after the event, you claim to ITK

C’mon

 

[GROTTO]

With Gov leaving with 2 years still go on his contract, Im just wandering what is the benefit of signing players on multi year deals?

If they want to go, they go. If they want to stay, they stay.

I think the AFLPA has f**ked the AFL with the freedom it has given to players.

 

[tinman]

The only reason Kelly got a chance was because Cheney was injured. To be fair, Kelly did perform well in 2018... but then returned to his normal level of incompetence in 2019.

Have you been riding in Doc and Marty's DeLorean?

 

[Mego Red]

We got reamed.

Let's just hope our recruiters can turn the picks into gold like they usually do. Only part of our club I actually have faith in.

Lol, what an ignorant thing to say.

We wanted him gone. We were never in a million years getting a top ten pick for a player who has mostly been disappointing. Our best hope was a mix of assets that combined to that value. 13 and McAdam is exactly that.

Reid did an excellent job again.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

With Gov leaving with 2 years still go on his contract, Im just wandering what is the benefit of signing players on multi year deals?

If they want to go, they go. If they want to stay, they stay.

I think the AFLPA has f**ked the AFL with the freedom it has given to players.

Clubs can say no if they’re contracted, I think the Dogs did recently.

 

[Donkey Magoo]

Have you been riding in Doc and Marty's DeLorean?

Hardcore daylight savings

 

[GROTTO]

Clubs can say no if they’re contracted, I think the Dogs did recently.

But do they? Some do and most dont it appears.

Clubs often state they dont want players that dont want to be at the Club.

Gov effectively walked from us despite contracted. There wasnt really any significant issues that forced him to leave aside from money.

 

[BrissyCrow]

Have we lost a generational player in McGovern before or after the draft?

McGovern's starting very late to ever attain those heights...

I predict that Gov will start to excite the Vic media. He will hit the highs that we all believe that he is capable of. I also felt the same about Lever and sure enough he started to get the Vic media excited. We all knew that Dangerfield was going to be a Brownlow Medalist. Those three are/will be expensive losses.

 

[GROTTO]

Have you been riding in Doc and Marty's DeLorean?

Vader

 

[Mego Red]

Nope, in this day and age, it seems it absolutely is a choice. I work with someone who has made this decision.

I'm not sure you understand transgendered folk.

 

[GROTTO]

I predict that Gov will start to excite the Vic media. He will hit the highs that we all believe that he is capable of. I also felt the same about Lever and sure enough he started to get the Vic media excited. We all knew that Dangerfield was going to be a Brownlow Medalist. Those three are/will be expensive losses.

At least Danger gave us some service.

Lever and Gov are campaigners.

 

[frenchconnection]

Why did Mitch choose to go to Carlton do you know and to want out after having only extended his contract last year? Just curious - or does he have a girlfriend from Victoria?

 

[GROTTO]

Why did Mitch choose to go to Carlton do you know and to want out after having only extended his contract last year? Just curious - or does he have a girlfriend from Victoria?

Basically more money.

Why would you go to a shit Club at the bottom of the ladder?

Gf is from Adelaide IIRC.

 

[Crow till I die]

Lol.

What else does Mr Snuffalufagus say?

The same thing as catweasle i guess

 

[Pea Nut]

I'm not sure you understand transgendered folk.

Way to go assuming. Which isn't a surprise. Look at the post I was replying to and the context of that discussion 30 pages back.

 

[headache1]

Lol, what an ignorant thing to say.

We wanted him gone. We were never in a million years getting a top ten pick for a player who has mostly been disappointing. Our best hope was a mix of assets that combined to that value. 13 and McAdam is exactly that.

Reid did an excellent job again.

We made him likely one of the highest paid young players we've ever had on our list because we wanted him gone?

 

[Stiffy_18]

But do they? Some do and most dont it appears.

Clubs often state they dont want players that dont want to be at the Club.

Gov effectively walked from us despite contracted. There wasnt really any significant issues that forced him to leave aside from money.

There were other issues. Relationship with the coach for one!

 

[Truck25]

What I find amusing, and don't get me wrong, I think McAdam has up side to burn. is the change in opinion. 2 days ago all the Blues supporters were saying he is around 20, plenty on this board were calling BS around 40-60. Now the deal is done, and under the change that the Blues were saying 1 2nd pick and McAdam and we got 2 into 13. general word is coming out on this board he is 15-20 and all the Blues supporters are calling BS he is 40-60. I guess it's just perspective...lol

Anyway, happy to give the bloke a run and hope he turns into the next Cyril. Time will tell. But the Blues Supporters I know are crying salty salty tears and I'm McLovin it!