MRP / Trib. MRP and Tribunal - 2024 - Finals Week 1

[HTPunter]

Why can't GWS lawyer just repeat what was said in Cameron's defense?

Only guideline considered, overlooked whether the action / conduct is likely to cause injury.

Bedford is like a 101 tackle they'll see countless times in a weekend. Too bad Taranto's head got hit on the ground but that's not the likely outcome every single time.

fair argument to say no tackle nor arm swing during a grapple can be suspendable then?

 

[JackFlash]

Cameron and Bedford got off and the AFL can rest easy for this week until they sort out what game it is they are playing?
They have been caught short before they got to the dunny and crapped themselves over this. The fabric of the game was at stake here and the AFL tribunal has embarrassed itself once again.

 

[mpal6]

fair argument to say no tackle nor arm swing during a grapple can be suspendable then?

Should've tried it last week.

 

[brutus76]

And common sense finally wins one for the two good guys!

 

[Dazza the Viking]

Both should of got off, but it’s laughable they get off on technicalities WTF, just making it more confusing, disappointing they didn’t get off because the action wasn’t a reportable offense

 

[Demon in Hell]

So the 33 players last year and the 11 players this year that have been suspended for dangerous tackles would be pretty pissed off right now.

 

[hoss]

Common sense prevails thank goodness.

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[paulige]

Ok Charlie gets off. That’s fair, there’s an argument to be made that his conduct wasn’t unreasonable.

But how do you let a guy off, because “the tribunal didn’t consider whether his actions were likely to cause injury”, when they did cause injury? They don’t need to consider the likelihood, when we know it 100% did.

How does that not apply to Heeney last week then? Heeney grappled with a defender like happens I’d estimate over 1000 times a round. Think if you have 100 inside 50s a game, a forward has pushed off a defender at least once each inside 50. So we have ONE injury from the action performed by Heeney out of say 1000. Is that not unlikely?

Just because an event occurs doesn’t mean it was likely to occur. Judge the action, not the outcome.

Maliciously slinging someone into the fence and not injuring them should be reportable, whereas a perfect tackle that results in a concussion should not.

Not sure if Heeney could’ve argued similar - ultimately he intentionally swung his arm in a space where his opponents head could reasonably be expected to be. Really unlucky. I was a bit torn between 0 and 1 weeks (2 would’ve been nice, though… ).

 

[western royboy]

Tweet of the Year

 

[MiguelM]

Both should of got off, but it’s laughable they get off on technicalities WTF, just making it more confusing, disappointing they didn’t get off because the action wasn’t a reportable offense

^^This.

Not even reportable IMO. AFL need to can outcome based decisions.

 

[quotemokc]

So is anyone at AFL HQ going to be held responsible for these monumental stuff ups?

 

[western royboy]

Common sense prevails thank goodness.

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What is the issue with common sense?

It’s not that common

 

[paulige]

So the 33 players last year and the 11 players this year that have been suspended for dangerous tackles would be pretty pissed off right now.

If you want others to suffer because "I suffered and I turned out alright"… you did not in fact turn out all right.

Maybe rather than being bitter, they’re happy to see the fabric of the game being repaired.

Of those 33, many of them would have been likely to cause injury anyway, and were adjudicated correctly. Not all, though.

 

[Underarm]

Ok Charlie gets off. That’s fair, there’s an argument to be made that his conduct wasn’t unreasonable.

But how do you let a guy off, because “the tribunal didn’t consider whether his actions were likely to cause injury”, when they did cause injury? They don’t need to consider the likelihood, when we know it 100% did.

How does that not apply to Heeney last week then? Heeney grappled with a defender like happens I’d estimate over 1000 times a round. Think if you have 100 inside 50s a game, a forward has pushed off a defender at least once each inside 50. So we have ONE injury from the action performed by Heeney out of say 1000. Is that not unlikely?

For a tackle to be a suspendable offence, it needs to be likely to cause an injury.

A strike is always a suspendable offence, so there was no need for them to comment on the strikes potential to cause injury. So no chance for Sydney's lawyer to use this loophole.

 

[paulige]

fair argument to say no tackle nor arm swing during a grapple can be suspendable then?

Not at all - genuinely slinging someone is likely to result in an injury. Swinging an arm in the direction of someone’s head, too.

All about context.

 

[eddiesmith]

Should be a free for all this week, knock the opposition out until they’ve got no one left!!!

 

[Dogflogger]

Should St Kilda be appealing more often? we have had a lot of players rubbed out for just playing the game.

 

[Hollow Knight]

eddiesmith is in tatters.

You love to see it.

 

[Hollow Knight]

Should St Kilda be appealing more often? we have had a lot of players rubbed out for just playing the game.

Probably not this week. Wait until you get your homophobia problem under control.

 

[Dogflogger]

Probably not this week. Wait until you get your homophobia problem under control.

No chance we could find a loophole to get him out of those 6 weeks? we don't have great lawyers but might be worth a shot.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Just got home from training, Cameron and Bedford got off on legal technicalities?

Does this mean Lions supporters are going to stop whinging about Cripps winning the Brownlow after getting off doing the same?

 

[Cleavy]

So is anyone at AFL HQ going to be held responsible for these monumental stuff ups?

everything's fine according to Dill.

 

[mpal6]

No chance we could find a loophole to get him out of those 6 weeks? we don't have great lawyers but might be worth a shot.

Where there is a Winneke (Brisbane Lawyer), there is a way !

Sign him up for your mob too !

 

[Underarm]

Should St Kilda be appealing more often? we have had a lot of players rubbed out for just playing the game.

If they find a legal loophole then yes. If it's just because you don't like the result like Sydney last week then no.

 

[KissKiss]

VFL HQ’s Kane merely cosplaying at competence and integrity.

Her MRO/MRP is killing the game.

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To be fair the MRO and the whole process has been a complete shitshow for over 3 years now. Its not just her mess from this year. The whole system needs an overhaul