Play Nice Australia Day 2025

[BunjiMC]

Unfortunately I highly doubt changing the day will have much effect on those people that have a problem celebrating all the great things Australia has achieved on all levels icluding inclusivity, they'll still carry on with their well worn agendas.

I think you are completely wrong.

 

[Mutineer]

As will all the right wing identity warriors.

Extremists on both sides will stay extreme.

But it would be good to find something for the majority of Australians that understand why indigenous people have difficulty with the date, but also want to celebrate what is a fantastic country.

Nope, every poll taken in more recent times the majority of Australians are quite happy to leave as is. Maybe Albo if he gets back in will have another crack but I suspect the result will be similar to his "Voice" referendum.

 

[Cromulant]

Unfortunately I highly doubt changing the day will have much effect on those people that have a problem celebrating all the great things Australia has achieved on all levels icluding inclusivity, they'll still carry on with their well worn agendas.

This i tend to agree with.

Life for those who feel like they've been wronged for 240 years won't suddenly change with a change in date of our National Day.

 

[Mostyn]

You say that but the majority of people want Australia Day on Australia Day and I don’t think it’s even close?

Actually, it's a minority of Australians that want to keep it on January 26 - Forty-eight per cent.

But that's a bit misleading, because many don't have an opinion and under 30% definitely want it moved.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-au/australiaday_2024

Older Australians are easily the biggest group to want the date to stay.

 

[Mutineer]

I think you are completely wrong.

And I think you're completely wrong so we'll have to agree to disagree.

 

[BunjiMC]

Nope, every poll taken in more recent times the majority of Australians are quite happy to leave as is. Maybe Albo if he gets back in will have another crack but I suspect the result will be similar to his "Voice" referendum.

Feel free to share every poll taken in recent times. That would be great.

 

[Cromulant]

I think you are completely wrong.

I don't.

What changes ?? Poverty will still be there, the alcoholism, the domestic violence etc will all still be there.

240 years of history doesn't evaporate

 

[Mostyn]

This i tend to agree with.

Life for those who feel like they've been wronged for 240 years won't suddenly change with a change in date of our National Day.

Well, that's true.

Personally, I think it will change eventually, but it's probably a decade or more away.

 

[BunjiMC]

I don't.

What changes ?? Poverty will still be there, the alcoholism, the domestic violence etc will all still be there.

240 years of history doesn't evaporate

But what if....hear me out....Most Aboriginal people want to change the date.....? Just maybe making the change might help, even if just a little...

 

[Cromulant]

Well, that's true.

Personally, I think it will change eventually, but it's probably a decade or more away.

Yep, I tend to agree when the Republic happens.

 

[Mutineer]

Actually, it's a minority of Australians that want to keep it on January 26 - Forty-eight per cent.

But that's a bit misleading, because many don't have an opinion and under 30% definitely want it moved.

https://www.ipsos.com/en-au/australiaday_2024

Older Australians are easily the biggest group to want the date to stay.

Nope

Even the lefty SMH admit it

Change the date? No, say an increasing majority of Australians

Australians have strongly backed January 26 as the national day after years of argument about changing the date, lifting support to a clear majority.

www.smh.com.au

 

[Mostyn]

Yep, I tend to agree when the Republic happens.

Hopefully I live to see that ..

 

[Cromulant]

But what if....hear me out....Most Aboriginal people want to change the date.....? Just maybe making the change might help, even if just a little...

And do we know this ??

I don't think we do

 

[Mostyn]

Nope

Change the date? No, say an increasing majority of Australians

Australians have strongly backed January 26 as the national day after years of argument about changing the date, lifting support to a clear majority.

www.smh.com.au

You can't just say nope.

Ipsos is a very credible national polling service. A newspaper isn't anywhere near as legitimate.

 

[FR0GGY]

But what if....hear me out....Most Aboriginal people want to change the date.....? Just maybe making the change might help, even if just a little...

Why should we ignore the minority of Aboriginals that want it to stay?

 

[Cromulant]

You can't just say nope.

Ipsos is a very credible national polling service. A newspaper isn't anywhere near as legitimate.

No polls are credible, everyone has an agenda

 

[BunjiMC]

And do we know this ??

I don't think we do

I can only go by my experiences. Almost all Aboriginal people want the date moved so they can actually celebrate Australia day.

 

[BunjiMC]

Why should we ignore the minority of Aboriginals that want it to stay?

Can I ask why you don't want the date to change?

 

[cleanhands]

So what’s the preferred date?

 

[Cromulant]

I can only go by my experiences. Almost all Aboriginal people want the date moved so they can actually celebrate Australia day.

I've had the opposite experience

Most don't actually care, probably a small cross section of the feeling around the entire country.

 

[Mutineer]

But what if....hear me out....Most Aboriginal people want to change the date.....? Just maybe making the change might help, even if just a little...

Do they, not according to the Guardian who polled in 2017, personally the Polls seems to have moved the other way since?

Unless you consider 54% an overwhelming majority.

Asked about whether the date of Australia Day should change, 54% of Indigenous Australians polled were in favour of a change compared with a total of 15% of total Australians polled.

 

[Cromulant]

So what’s the preferred date?

And THIS is it.

I'm happy to have it changed, but the date needs to be of some significance rather than a random day.

 

[FR0GGY]

Can I ask why you don't want the date to change?

Because it wouldn’t be Australia Day for me.
I’ve grow up with it as that.
Just wouldn’t be the same, if people want or don’t want to celebrate it on the 26th that’s up to them to do whatever they want.
I wouldn’t dream of telling them to, just as I’d hope others wouldn’t tell me when I should or should not celebrate something.
I absolutely can’t stand people pushing views on others whether it be religious or otherwise.

 

[cleanhands]

Do they, not according to the Guardian who polled in 2017, personally the Polls seems to have moved the other way since?

Unless you consider 54% an overwhelming majority.

Asked about whether the date of Australia Day should change, 54% of Indigenous Australians polled were in favour of a change compared with a total of 15% of total Australians polled.

So what is the date of they wish to celebrate it on?

 

[Eagleboy2011]

So what is the date of they wish to celebrate it on?

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