Oppo Camp Non Geelong football (AFL) discussion 2024, Part I

[_Game_]

Outside of N. Daicos, I am a firm believer our group of kids are better than the Pies.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

This is just wrong. They had a very well trained defensive zone that was excellent at causing turnovers. Teams have now worked it out. I am sure a bit of natural decline from a few players doesn’t help either, but this idea collingwood just won because McRae said “boys go out and pressure” is just so wrong and off the mark.

Good defensive zones and tactics allow you to pressure. When teams work you out, you can try to lresssure all you like, you will get rings run around you if your defensive strategies are off.

Of course they have a solid game plan but that’s not the entire story, their tactics required total buy in and the team playing relentless footy and even with that they won 17 of 19 games by under 10 points, which is nuts and they should be commended but it does tell you that they were never a dominant team.

 

[Partridge]

Find it interesting that we were called 'old and finished' after Round 3 last year, but no-one is applying that tag to Collingwood.

Mason Cox 33
Jamie Elliot 31
Jeremy Howe 33
Will Hoskin-Elliot 30
Scott Pendlebury 36
Tom Mitchell 30
Steele Sidebottom 33
Brodie Mihocek 31

Fair chunk of their Best 22 who are over 30.

Cox isn't in their best team. He's absolute rubbish.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Find it interesting that we were called 'old and finished' after Round 3 last year, but no-one is applying that tag to Collingwood.

Mason Cox 33
Jamie Elliot 31
Jeremy Howe 33
Will Hoskin-Elliot 30
Scott Pendlebury 36
Tom Mitchell 30
Steele Sidebottom 33
Brodie Mihocek 31

Fair chunk of their Best 22 who are over 30.

Collingwood have this really weird list structure where they don't have as many out-and-out "old blokes on their last legs", but also not much youth coming through either.

They're the oldest team because a massive chunk of their list is between 24 and 33. Daicos and (I guess) McCreery apart, they don't have much coming through at all under 24.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Cox isn't in their best team. He's absolute rubbish.

He actually is because their other 2nd rucks are no good (eg begg and steene isnt ready and frampton is a lamp post) or permanently injured (eg kreuger). Their depth in talls is actually really poor. But hes cooked and they dont have an obvious fill in.

 

[cats_09]

 

[Catastrophe!]

Cox isn't in their best team. He's absolute rubbish.

And yet he played in their Premiership, most games from Round 8 onwards last year, and both games this year?

You might not like him, but he is in their Best 23. Your opinion of him does not change these facts.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

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If the stats say it then surely Kingy has written them off

 

[Hinkley29]

Cox isn't in their best team. He's absolute rubbish.

I agree he is rubbish. But if they go into a game with Cameron as their only ruckman they have no chance. Cameron rucking on his own is worse than rubbish.

The position really is their biggest weakness, which makes it even more hilarious that they are paying Grundy to play for someone else.

 

[Taper]

Collingwood spent the off season drinking their own bathwater and it's showing on field.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Find it interesting that we were called 'old and finished' after Round 3 last year, but no-one is applying that tag to Collingwood.

Mason Cox 33
Jamie Elliot 31
Jeremy Howe 33
Will Hoskin-Elliot 30
Scott Pendlebury 36
Tom Mitchell 30
Steele Sidebottom 33
Brodie Mihocek 31

Fair chunk of their Best 22 who are over 30.

You have to pump them up first. The crash is more destructive when taken from greater height

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Outside of N. Daicos, I am a firm believer our group of kids are better than the Pies.

Not even controversial. I like Mcreary and Hill. After that you have to start calling prime aged players young.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Sicily is such a numb nuts....

 

[Gunf]

Sicily is such a numb nuts....

He is having a mare

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I note that stringer is not visibly fat this year

 

[Lana]

I note that stringer is not visibly fat this year

Ah a contract year

 

[Gunf]

Hawks should be a few goals up but bad acc

 

[CatToTheFuture]

They definitely eat their own over there. Had to delete his own socials



Also, this was the guy they dropped Henry for

 

[cats_09]

Just like this,

 

[thecatattack]

Just like this,

Every AFL player eats lollies to replenish sugar levels

 

[thecatattack]

Outside of N. Daicos, I am a firm believer our group of kids are better than the Pies.

It’s not even a question either.

They also traded this years first round pick for Schultz. Their youth won’t be getting better.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

It’s not even a question either.

They also traded this years first round pick for Schultz. Their youth won’t be getting better.

Freo holding pick 1 currently

 

[cats_09]

They definitely eat their own over there. Had to delete his own socials



Also, this was the guy they dropped Henry for

I'll give this guy some credit, he's been a good sport when being reminded of the following after last night

 

[cats_09]

Every AFL player eats lollies to replenish sugar levels

You see it in all sports

 

[cats_09]