Non-Lions Footy Season (2017)

[jackess]

Another 'calf injury' for Bennell

 

[CarterS]

One thing that surprised me a bit was Ross Lyon's comments on the draft. During his press conference there was this exchange

WA player, Sam Powell-Pepper was drafted to Port Adelaide. Would you have liked to have grabbed him when you had the chance in the draft?
I think you let the cobblers do the cobbling. I certainly don't do the recruiting. I’m not sure what you want me to say to that question.

You don't have a say about which players you bring to the club given that you are the senior coach?
In the National Draft? No, and I would say that goes for all clubs. That’s why they call them national recruiting managers and list managers. That’s what they do.

Shouldn’t the senior coach have some say to what players are going to the club?
You’re entitled to what you think it is, I am telling you what the reality is. I am paid to coach.

How accurate is this compared with other coaches? How hands on are they? Just struck me as a bit odd. BTW the Freo site transcribes the press conferences, would love to see the Lions do that.

 

[dlanod]

One thing that surprised me a bit was Ross Lyon's comments on the draft. During his press conference there was this exchange



How accurate is this compared with other coaches? How hands on are they? Just struck me as a bit odd. BTW the Freo site transcribes the press conferences, would love to see the Lions do that.

Fairly accurate in at least some cases. If they work well together, the coach will indicate what they think the list needs are but won't ride specific players because they don't spend a year watching these kids. In some cases, generally with later picks, it can be purely a coach's call - I think that's how we ended up with Lyons this year, and similarly Leon Cameron did the same with deBoer. OTOH if they don't work as a partnership and the list manager makes calls on his own, you end up with a Scotty Clayton special full of tall flankers.

 

[ZoBlitz]

Or redrafting draft busts just to prove your critics wrong.

 

[Elixuh]

Looking at Collingwoods draw, they could very easily get to ANZAC day with 0 wins. Could be 0 and 6 if they lose on ANZAC day as well.

 

[captainrich]

Fairly accurate in at least some cases. If they work well together, the coach will indicate what they think the list needs are but won't ride specific players because they don't spend a year watching these kids. In some cases, generally with later picks, it can be purely a coach's call - I think that's how we ended up with Lyons this year, and similarly Leon Cameron did the same with deBoer. OTOH if they don't work as a partnership and the list manager makes calls on his own, you end up with a Scotty Clayton special full of tall flankers.

what makes you say that in relation to Corey Lyons and Fagan?

interesting a player that hasn't really been talked up as much as our other draftees, limited fanfare really

 

[Dylan12]

So Prince James "long sleeves" Aish was omitted...

From what I can tell, he is just a very average player that may not be an AFL player in 18 months time if he doesn't pull his finger out.

 

[Dalions]

So Prince James "long sleeves" Aish was omitted...

From what I can tell, he is just a very average player that may not be an AFL player in 18 months time if he doesn't pull his finger out.

That would be quite a fall from Grace

 

[AFLQLD]

So Prince James "long sleeves" Aish was omitted...

From what I can tell, he is just a very average player that may not be an AFL player in 18 months time if he doesn't pull his finger out.

Can't even get a game in a winless team. Hmm, sounds familiar. You've come so far Prince James.

 

[pulpdriver]

That would be quite a fall from Grace

He hasn't one game at the Pies half as good as the ones he played with us in the wins against Saints and Roos in his first year. Looked like a totally different player back then.

 

[Dylan12]

Can't even get a game in a winless team. Hmm, sounds familiar. You've come so far Prince James.

Aish just has no redeeming qualities as a player that you'd consider him a loss to the Lions nowadays, particularly given what we would've had to pay to have retained him.

Elliot Yeo on the other hand...

 

[Eons]

Still can't believe we got 2 second round picks for Aish or that we were stupid enough to take him with pick 7.

 

[SRH17]

Still can't believe we got 2 second round picks for Aish or that we were stupid enough to take him with pick 7.

Football royalty, aledgedly.

 

[captainrich]

Still can't believe we got 2 second round picks for Aish or that we were stupid enough to take him with pick 7.

we had no other choice but to take him, just unlucky he fell but there was no one available, if you look down the list of picks after him

noting cripps was rated as a 20s pick option and was a surprise he was taken at 13

 

[Nunez]

Gaj won't commit to playing out this season with the Suns. Looks like that source was right.

 

[Dylan12]

Gaj won't commit to playing out this season with the Suns.

Why?

 

[Cooties]

 

[LongLion]

Mmmmmmm..........

 

[Hollow Knight]

The big winner from the ongoing failure of the Suns is GWS.

People with an agenda are preemptively trying to paint any success of GWS as empty and gifted by the AFL.

But the Suns are a providing a living example that no amount of concessions can override terrible management and decision making.

 

[AFLQLD]

The Suns really are in some sort of crisis.

Not a first hand source but heard from someone who knows the club and a few individuals on the management side quite well that he believes it is even worse on the inside than it appears - all sorts of recriminations and accusations floating around internally and only a few cool heads who are barely managing to stop outright civil war breaking out.

 

[Kevvo]

They did send Mark Evans in, which seems like the AFL version of the nuclear option. The Suns tried to play it like they poached him, but I wonder if the league had gotten wind of how serious things were.

I have no great love for the suns, but it's tough to run a good club in Queensland.

 

[Eons]

The Suns really are in some sort of crisis.

Not a first hand source but heard from someone who knows the club and a few individuals on the management side quite well that he believes it is even worse on the inside than it appears - all sorts of recriminations and accusations floating around internally and only a few cool heads who are barely managing to stop outright civil war breaking out.

Time to start poaching some players then that like Queensland but aren't happy at the club. May would be very handy.

 

[AFLQLD]

They did send Mark Evans in, which seems like the AFL version of the nuclear option. The Suns tried to play it like they poached him, but I wonder if the league had gotten wind of how serious things were.

I have no great love for the suns, but it's tough to run a good club in Queensland.

Yes. Ultimately a well run Suns helps Queensland footy so it isn't good news (even though it is them rather than us having the crisis for once).

As much as it is easy for some people to hate them for a bunch of reasons, the Lions and Suns probably have more in common than they have differences. We both battle against a whole lot of other bigger obstacles than each other, so both clubs being strong, well managed and successful helps us both and helps the Queensland game.

 

[CarterS]

A decent move on Collingwood in the betting markets, anyone think they will bounce back tonight?

 

[Eons]

A decent move on Collingwood in the betting markets, anyone think they will bounce back tonight?

Collingwood always seem to win these types of games. Wouldn't surprise me if they got up.