Training Pre-Season 2023 (First game 18/3 v North)

[Biggie]

Will Wardlaw be fit for round 1?

Don’t believe so

 

[Nuffington Post]

So glad we split pick 2 and didn’t go near Wardlaw or Tsatas.


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[twce13]

reading some of Elijah’s draft info and they seem to put endurance as one of his strengths in his game. Kinda odd how the club doesn’t seem to rate it at this stage

Not odd. Go read majority of phantom drafts over the years and you'll see they are mostly recycled garbage clutching at straws.

 

[WCE_phil]

Not odd. Go read majority of phantom drafts over the years and you'll see they are mostly recycled garbage clutching at straws.

TBH from what I have seen it's the desire to absolutely gut run both ways. He has a decent level of running endurance but not match fit endurance going both ways. It to me is why he has fits and spurts in games rather than being more consistent. Like Ginbey he hates losing. So I would pair them up and say to Hewett we know you are the better natural footballer, you match him around the track and you'll be starting every game.

It's not a lie either, Hewett is the naturally more talented footballer but Ginbey is a physical beast and as I have already said has an absolutely elite athletic profile. He is as fast and explosive as petracca but with Yeo's physicality and true high level endurance. As i've said again on multiple occasions he has multiple areas to work on, on his kicking and i think the best we can hope for is for him to be an average kick at AFL level. If he doesn't get under the ball his long kicks have good penetration too. His dinkier kicks tend to have a bit of float about them, he can get under his long kicks and he has a propensity to lean back on set shots. He kicks a lot more to a spot than to the spot of where a leading player will be most of the time. He can pull off great kicks but he can also have very poor kicking days. You make those poor kicking days average and help the goal kicking routine a touch and lower the tendency to get under long kicks and he will have almost everything. He is however poor outside of the contest and overhead, particularly for his size.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Norf starting to get a few injuries, this is a fantastic opportunity to get the year started with an important away win, carrrnnn boys!

 

[Lazzas]

TBH from what I have seen it's the desire to absolutely gut run both ways. He has a decent level of running endurance but not match fit endurance going both ways. It to me is why he has fits and spurts in games rather than being more consistent. Like Ginbey he hates losing. So I would pair them up and say to Hewett we know you are the better natural footballer, you match him around the track and you'll be starting every game.

It's not a lie either, Hewett is the naturally more talented footballer but Ginbey is a physical beast and as I have already said has an absolutely elite athletic profile. He is as fast and explosive as petracca but with Yeo's physicality and true high level endurance. As i've said again on multiple occasions he has multiple areas to work on, on his kicking and i think the best we can hope for is for him to be an average kick at AFL level. If he doesn't get under the ball his long kicks have good penetration too. His dinkier kicks tend to have a bit of float about them, he can get under his long kicks and he has a propensity to lean back on set shots. He kicks a lot more to a spot than to the spot of where a leading player will be most of the time. He can pull off great kicks but he can also have very poor kicking days. You make those poor kicking days average and help the goal kicking routine a touch and lower the tendency to get under long kicks and he will have almost everything. He is however poor outside of the contest and overhead, particularly for his size.

Ginbey I've been very impressed with, as a local watching him through primary school, I wasn't on board however I'm on board now. Hewitt I've always been on board, does he have long Covid? The draft split was a fantastic initiative

 

[ziad]

TBH from what I have seen it's the desire to absolutely gut run both ways. He has a decent level of running endurance but not match fit endurance going both ways. It to me is why he has fits and spurts in games rather than being more consistent. Like Ginbey he hates losing. So I would pair them up and say to Hewett we know you are the better natural footballer, you match him around the track and you'll be starting every game.

It's not a lie either, Hewett is the naturally more talented footballer but Ginbey is a physical beast and as I have already said has an absolutely elite athletic profile. He is as fast and explosive as petracca but with Yeo's physicality and true high level endurance. As i've said again on multiple occasions he has multiple areas to work on, on his kicking and i think the best we can hope for is for him to be an average kick at AFL level. If he doesn't get under the ball his long kicks have good penetration too. His dinkier kicks tend to have a bit of float about them, he can get under his long kicks and he has a propensity to lean back on set shots. He kicks a lot more to a spot than to the spot of where a leading player will be most of the time. He can pull off great kicks but he can also have very poor kicking days. You make those poor kicking days average and help the goal kicking routine a touch and lower the tendency to get under long kicks and he will have almost everything. He is however poor outside of the contest and overhead, particularly for his size.

'TBH from what I have seen it's the desire to absolutely gut run both ways.' Are you thinking its an predominantly an attitide issue, a learning issue or just the need to develop his fitness base. The ability to run hard both ways at AFL level will take time to develop, which is why draftees dont do the full training programme from day one as it would overload them. Build the base first!

 

[bUCKET__]

Forget running both ways, I'm impressed when one of our players runs hard in one direction lately.

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I have to admit after last year I had Hough in our best 22, not to sure why he’s fallen out of favour, he seems an outstanding young talent, which is just what we’re after.

 

[SloppyJoe]

I reckon Darling plays, and plays well.

Zurhaar out would be pretty big. He is an impact player who averages 15 touches and 1.5goals/game against us which is pretty valuable in a cripple fight.

 

[kane249]

I reckon Darling plays, and plays well.

Zurhaar out would be pretty big. He is an impact player who averages 15 touches and 1.5goals/game against us which is pretty valuable in a cripple fight.

He's been training for their midfield this pre-season as an impact player, so will ease the pressure on us if Naitanui is looking to miss as expected

 

[Biggie]

I reckon Darling plays, and plays well.

Agreed

However his 2nd game back will be a stinker imo

 

[Chris_6678]

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Liam Duggan

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Liam Duggan

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28

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186cm

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83kg

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15.4

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10.1

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5.3

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M

4.4

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16.0

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4.0

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shouldering the
@AFL
Captains' Day duties today for
@WestCoastEagles
to make sure Luke Shuey

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Luke Shuey

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34

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89kg

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3.3

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4.9

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5.6

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18.7

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10.8

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7.8

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2.8

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2.7

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4.3

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17.0

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9.2

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7.8

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2.8

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1.4

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can play in tomorrow's intra-club. Risky for the skipper to fly twice and play so soon after a managed pre-season.

 

[Rowan18]

TBH from what I have seen it's the desire to absolutely gut run both ways. He has a decent level of running endurance but not match fit endurance going both ways. It to me is why he has fits and spurts in games rather than being more consistent. Like Ginbey he hates losing. So I would pair them up and say to Hewett we know you are the better natural footballer, you match him around the track and you'll be starting every game.

It's not a lie either, Hewett is the naturally more talented footballer but Ginbey is a physical beast and as I have already said has an absolutely elite athletic profile. He is as fast and explosive as petracca but with Yeo's physicality and true high level endurance. As i've said again on multiple occasions he has multiple areas to work on, on his kicking and i think the best we can hope for is for him to be an average kick at AFL level. If he doesn't get under the ball his long kicks have good penetration too. His dinkier kicks tend to have a bit of float about them, he can get under his long kicks and he has a propensity to lean back on set shots. He kicks a lot more to a spot than to the spot of where a leading player will be most of the time. He can pull off great kicks but he can also have very poor kicking days. You make those poor kicking days average and help the goal kicking routine a touch and lower the tendency to get under long kicks and he will have almost everything. He is however poor outside of the contest and overhead, particularly for his size.

How is his handball? Maybe he can focus on winning the ball and distributing to the elite kicks.

I saw him do some good spoils playing at HB against the Crows. I was pretty impressed that he also seems to be able to defend. He's a big unit, so his size alone worried the smaller forwards/mids our of it.

 

[Rowan18]

I have to admit after last year I had Hough in our best 22, not to sure why he’s fallen out of favour, he seems an outstanding young talent, which is just what we’re after.

He has talent but it sounds like Gaff, Hunt, Without and Cole have filled the positions he had last year. He just has to go smash it in the WAFL and there's a good chance that one of Gaff/Witho will drop out at some point (unless their form sky rockets after the pre season matches).

 

[PremiershipNo4]

He has talent but it sounds like Gaff, Hunt, Without and Cole have filled the positions he had last year. He just has to go smash it in the WAFL and there's a good chance that one of Gaff/Witho will drop out at some point (unless their form sky rockets after the pre season matches).

I get it, but based on last years efforts and preseason, I’d have him in front of 2 or 3 that are probably going to get a guernsey.
Could be a 200 game player

 

[Rowan18]

I get it, but based on last years efforts and preseason, I’d have him in front of 2 or 3 that are probably going to get a guernsey.
Could be a 200 game player

I have big tickets on him too, but if he has the talent that we think, he'll force his way in soon enough.

 

[FKASC]

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Liam Duggan shouldering the
@AFL
Captains' Day duties today for
@WestCoastEagles
to make sure Luke Shuey can play in tomorrow's intra-club. Risky for the skipper to fly twice and play so soon after a managed pre-season.

Geez should probably avoid driving his car around too

 

[Seadog]

Geez should probably avoid driving his car around too

If only there was some sort of process where we could choose a captain who would be available to perform a captains duties.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

So keen to beat these pricks for once.

Sad state of affairs where beating the wooden spooners of the last couple of years will fill me with this much joy.

 

[EagleMan87]

So keen to beat these pricks for once.

Sad state of affairs where beating the wooden spooners of the last couple of years will fill me with this much joy.

It's my first game in Melbourne, so we'll win.

 

[The wily weagle]

I have to admit after last year I had Hough in our best 22, not to sure why he’s fallen out of favour, he seems an outstanding young talent, which is just what we’re after.

I agree, and honestly I think the onus should be starting our kids first and having our seniors win back their spots via the WAFL, and not the other way around

 

[PremiershipNo4]

I agree, and honestly I think the onus should be starting our kids first and having our seniors win back their spots via the WAFL, and not the other way around

Yep, he’s quick, good skills, good mark, reads the play well, wins his share of the ball, fitter, bulked up. He couldn’t have ticked anymore boxes.

 

[Keys]

Geez should probably avoid driving his car around too

If only there was some sort of process where we could choose a captain who would be available to perform a captains duties.

There’s absolutely no point sending Shuey to Melbourne for something as pointless as captains day

It’s just one of those annoying little things that highlight the inequity of the league with the Vic/non-Vic divide that is easily forgotten/ignored

There’s 10 Victorian clubs and the AFL is based there so it makes sense for league wide meetings to be held in Melbourne from a logistical pov. But it means that clubs who are already over burdened with travel have another trip added

So why send Shuey 4 hours each way just to get a couple of photos with the other captains, answer a handful of inane questions and fill out a pointless survey

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Imagine the sook from the Vic clubs if the AFL sent all the captains to Alice Springs or something.