Training Pre-season updates 2024-2025.

[Jen2310]

I thought it was plantar fasciitis then and now mild stress fracture
Seperate ?

separate. He got surgery and was getting over the former, and then came back to training and discovered foot soreness and ended up being a stress issue.

 

[cfc19902010]

separate. He got surgery and was getting over the former, and then came back to training and discovered foot soreness and ended up being a stress issue.

Exactly
So until things settle down after moon boot and medicos review and toms healing capabilities kick in no one really knows

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I thought it was plantar fasciitis then and now mild stress fracture
Seperate ?

It hasn't been referred to as a stress fracture.

And yes, they are separate issues.

 

[celestial]

It's not a stress fracture.

And yes, they are separate issues.

" BSI (bone stress injuries) differs in severity, with initial findings of periosteal edema and marrow edema. In more severe conditions, stress fractures with distinct fracture lines are present"

So there is the possibility that the BSI that was stated in the collingwood report , is actually referring to a stress fracture. Hopefully his injury is on the lower end.

 

[Chunky Steak]

Tex Walker and Tom Hawkins 2 others I can think of that are/were beautiful field kicks

Charlie Curnow springs to mind. Elite field kick.

 

[tmpies01]

Charlie Curnow springs to mind. Elite field kick.

Agree but goes missing in finals so hopefully Westy doesn’t model his game too much.

 

[Jen2310]

Agree but goes missing in finals so hopefully Westy doesn’t model his game too much.

Think just the contest marking, congressiveness part of his game. He mentioned a few elements from Curnow he bases his game around

 

[celestial]

'Collingwood’ s High Performance Manager Jarrod Wade said:

“After building up his loads over the off-season, Tom returned to full training last week, and unfortunately, he felt some soreness in his foot,” Wade said.

“A MRI has confirmed that Tom has a mild second metatarsal bone stress injury and he will spend the next two weeks in a boot before we reassess what the next steps are.'

"mild second metatarsal bone stress injury"

Again

BSI (bone stress injuries) differs in severity, with initial findings of periosteal edema and marrow edema. In more severe conditions, stress fractures with distinct fracture lines are present"

by definition bone stress injury can range from something like an edema to something more serious like a stress fracture.

Seeing that wade used the umbrella term, kinda hard to figure out where toms injury lies on bsi scale.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

"mild second metatarsal bone stress injury"

Again

BSI (bone stress injuries) differs in severity, with initial findings of periosteal edema and marrow edema. In more severe conditions, stress fractures with distinct fracture lines are present"

by definition bone stress injury can range from something like an edema to something more serious like a stress fracture.

Seeing that wade used the umbrella term, kinda hard to figure out where toms injury lies on bsi scale.

Thx, but I'll just take Wade's word for it for now (mild stress injury) rather than go down the worst case scenario.

We'll have an update & know more once the boot comes off in a couple of weeks.

 

[Kilmo]

A bloke that size would normally be kicking heaps of goals vs juniors.

I think these are his stats for SANFL Under 18s... that's Games, Goals and Behinds so he kicked a bag a couple of times

Public Profile | PlayHQ

www.playhq.com

 

[Jen2310]

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I think these are his stats for SANFL Under 18s... that's Games, Goals and Behinds so he kicked a bag a couple of times

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www.playhq.com

Played a fair bit of ruck too, so unsure how often he was "just a forward."

 

[celestial]

I wonder if tom has recently developed abnormal running mechanics that is causing the repetitive strain of his tissue such as the plantar faciatis and subjecting the bones in his feet to unnecessary stress.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Played a fair bit of ruck too, so unsure how often he was "just a forward."

Do they show 'hit outs' in the stats on playhq?

 

[Jen2310]

Do they show 'hit outs' in the stats on playhq?

nah. Just games played, goals and number of named in he bests

but here it does

Woodville-West Torrens - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

averaged between 9-13 hitouts
Kids at U18 level dont dominate hitouts so 10-15 is usually a good range for young rucks.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

nah. Just games played, goals and number of named in he bests

but here it does

Woodville-West Torrens - SANFL

sanfl.com.au

averaged between 9-13 hitouts
Kids at U18 level dont dominate hitouts so 10-15 is usually a good range for young rucks.

Haha, was just about to post that link after I also did a bit more searching..

 

[Jen2310]

Haha, was just about to post that link after I also did a bit more searching..

Heh good minds

 

[sideswipe]

I wonder if tom has recently developed abnormal running mechanics that is causing the repetitive strain of his tissue such as the plantar faciatis and subjecting the bones in his feet to unnecessary stress.

Unlikely in the extreme. The injuries are at opposite ends of the foot. Far more likely that the reason for the bone stress injury is the same reason for nearly every bone stress injury - a reaction to an increase in workload after his long layoff.

Hopefully it resolves quickly and he can re-resume his gradual build.

He must be so frustrated.

 

[cfc19902010]

It's not a stress fracture.

And yes, they are separate issues.

Thank you doctor

Btw

Bone stress injury

The early stage of a stress fracture, when microfractures are present but no visible crack is on imaging

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Thank you doctor

Btw

Bone stress injury

The early stage of a stress fracture, when microfractures are present but no visible crack is on imaging

I wasn't pretending to be a doctor

It's what Wade said. A mild stress injury. I take his word over anyone else's. They were HIS words.

“A MRI has confirmed that Tom has a mild second metatarsal bone stress injury and he will spend the next two weeks in a boot before we reassess what the next steps are.'

We'll all know more after the boot comes off.

 

[Vicky Park]

Think just the contest marking, congressiveness part of his game. He mentioned a few elements from Curnow he bases his game around

Charlie may as well aim high. I know we love to disparage ‘free kick Curnow’, but I’d have him at the Pies in a heartbeat.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

I thought it was plantar fasciitis then and now mild stress fracture
Seperate ?

Yep

Didn’t realise it was a different injury at first

 

[tmpies01]

Do we have access to this lad in the middle?

 

[neilk]

Tex Walker and Tom Hawkins 2 others I can think of that are/were beautiful field kicks

Despite his issues in front of goals, Trav Cloke was also a very good field kick.

 

[TradeDraft]

That reads like Charlie is a high first round pick, which begs the question - why was he taken so late in the draft?

Unless the draft really was a super draft…

Did not have Huge Numbers

Did have 1 game he Kicked 5 in though

 

[TradeDraft]

Defensive work rate?

Or work rate in general? Ie how often he presented at the ball carrier?

Does say Endurance is something he needs to be worked on