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I've stated elsewhere that umpires are human and make mistakes and that there are always bad calls both ways.
When you're talking about a 12-2 free kick half (including I believe 10 in a row at one point) and look at the calls that were going the Pies way and the ones that weren't getting called for North, that is absolutely momentum shifting.
North aren't without fault either, for taking a successful tag off as the sub. Making poor decisions and missing some gettable goals and targets around the ground.
Could be deemed to be within 5m of Sidebottom here.
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I can't even remember if I watched that game.So can you point out your post from the Collingwood v Bulldogs game where you complained about the 10-1 last qtr free kick advantage to the Bulldogs? That 1 free kick to Collingwood was with 15 seconds remaining, but interestingly enough, no one worried about momentum or lopsided counts that day.
If he's within 5m of a direct opponent, wouldn't that be following the letter of the law to NOT call 50?So instead of following the letter of the law, the umpire used common sense? Wow, I’m glad you want that applied to 50m penalties in this instance…
Still some doubt on the 15m distance even though the umpire blew his whistle when Scott marked the ball?I'm even more amazed that you are virtue signalling on an umpiring decision that wasn't as clear cut as you think!
Is Gerrard Healy "one-eyed Collingwood"? He said Scott looked like he was playing on. And he was definitely at least thinking about it, because there was still some doubt on the 15 metre distance.
Depends on how the umpire feels at the time, and whether or not any of the other umpires overrule their decision.Should doubting players be allowed to act on their doubts, or follow the umpire's whistle?
Her explanation doesn't make sense though, otherwise it gives players free reign to run past the mark until the umpire calls stand
Im certainly not upset. Certainly not a North supporter. Just amazed that supporters are so one-eyed that they cant bring themselves to admit we got away with a poor decision. Sorry, its absolutely a howler. Read the rules.
You're clearly taking the piss and like Woody said they're not going to come out today and say we got it wrong and North get 4 points.
That and the touched goal were huge let offs.
Her explanation is exactly what I’ve been saying since it happened. The error was not calling play on because he did play on.
That doesn't somehow make it okay to not pay 50 though. The umpire paid a mark and didn't call play on, it's a ridiculous explanation. The laws of the game don't become suspended if an initial mistake is made (which is debatable in this case anyway)
And until the umpire calls play on, opposition players can't encroach over the mark. Otherwise it is a 50.Her explanation is exactly what I’ve been saying since it happened. The error was not calling play on because he did play on.
Exactly.That doesn't somehow make it okay to not pay 50 though. The umpire paid a mark and didn't call play on, it's a ridiculous explanation. The laws of the game don't become suspended if an initial mistake is made (which is debatable in this case anyway)
Exactly.
The umpire (supposedly) made an error - that doesn't give him a free pass to compound it with another error.
Once he didn't call play on and the Collingwood players encroached over the mark it was 50. Simple.
Think about this one, it’s one you’ll see in local footy nearly every week.
Player goes to take an uncontested mark, umpire blows the whistle for the mark but the player drops it.
The whistle has gone so he has 2 options.
1- Compound his error and pay the mark
2- Call a ball up
You’re suggesting he should go with 1?
Also on the play on call, every time a player snaps a goal the defenders will
Run in as soon as he goes off his mark but before the umpire has time to call play on. It’s clearly play on and the call comes, but they’ve already moved. Do you want all them paid 50?
Fantastic now if a player on the mark goes to block a handball before play on is called it’s not 50 as he should have
Got it
I think it's fine for an umpire to apply common sense in the event that there is a clear and obvious error (ie - a mark called prematurely) where it's entirely reasonable for the opposition to keep playing on. Bit of a reach to apply it to this situation though, players don't have liberty to umpire themselves.
Umpires will sometimes pay marks on kicks that have obviously not gone the required distance or that looks touched, but that doesn't mean an opponent gets leeway to ignore the mark
Still some doubt on the 15m distance even though the umpire blew his whistle when Scott marked the ball?
Should doubting players be allowed to act on their doubts, or follow the umpire's whistle?
Virtue signalling? Seriously..
It doesnt matter what Gerard Healy, You, Sidebottom or McCreary thought as to whether he was playing on or not or whether the ball travelled 15m. The umpire decided he didnt play on and the ball travelled the required distance. We ran over the mark. 2 players. Simple.
Why is it taboo to just say we got away with a couple without resorting to "yeh but in the 2nd quarter we didnt get this free kick"? It's a sport umpired by humans who makes mistakes. So what? Next week, or whenever, we're just as likely to have one go against us. Umpires should be held accountable for poor calls and not just the ones that go against us.
The funny thing is, we all know you would be baying for blood if the shoe was on the other foot. And you're not alone. Every team and a large majority of those supporters cannot bring themselves to say we got lucky. Its just weird.