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I would like it Wosh if you can put in an LVB exclusion clause specific to the Eagles board and its users.
There's too many of those flogs in Vegas as is. Or have a weighted transfer system.

i.e. JoshWoodenSpoon is worth 5 eagles rookies. MWPP worth 4. Matera92 a free transfer.
 

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AnUltimateRessie said:
one rookie (potentially another one soon), two posters that come off a 10 season break where they only played one season, and the return of league great EKA.

The Wonders carry this competition.
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How many active posters did the Wonders have last season?

There’s one thing signing up someone & having them engage once in a blue moon and there is another thing putting together a diverse posting list that contributes every week.

That’s where I think the Demons & Bears do well—- they don’t have as much movement, but both clubs have a large cohort who contribute weekly to match threads
 
Senor M said:
How many active posters did the Wonders have last season?

There’s one thing signing up someone & having them engage once in a blue moon and there is another thing putting together a diverse posting list that contributes every week.

That’s where I think the Demons & Bears do well—- they don’t have as much movement, but both clubs have a large cohort who contribute weekly to match threads
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We had about 17 posters per week, had 23/26 contribute across the season. Demons and Bears are elite at constant engagement and retaining those players season on season, the Wonders are fairly strong and hopefully these numbers continue to build in a positive manner.
 
Art Vandelay_ said:
I would like it Wosh if you can put in an LVB exclusion clause specific to the Eagles board and its users.
There's too many of those flogs in Vegas as is. Or have a weighted transfer system.

i.e. JoshWoodenSpoon is worth 5 eagles rookies. MWPP worth 4. Matera92 a free transfer.
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ClarkeM said:
Cut list sizes down to 25 and we might see better turnover of lists rather than teams freely pocketing 8 posters in their bank and not feeling the need to replenish stocks as we once used to.

But yes, spot on. Very alarming figures Serial. I'd be curious to know how retention levels have been over this time too though - I sense we experience more and more people wanting to stick around and be a part of their club (and this place) more than we used to in the past with many 2-3 season bursts from players before disappearing into the abyss. There's perhaps a silver lining in keeping people interested more often.
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Just going to double down as I've thought about this more and more and honestly, I see this so differently to most of you I think. I think this is awesome in a way. We're arguably in the best position we've ever been in. An active community with little turnover, do we really need 80 new rookies each and every season? Or have we found an excellent balance of maintaining interest levels within existing posters. I think it's the latter.
 
Mobbs said:
Like everything in the Sweet FA, the Roys are qoot years ahead of the competition. We invited the lesser rest of the league to join us in a friendly v Poland in 2021 :

Event - Exhibition Match: Poland Devils versus Roys FFC & Friends (& enemies (& randoms))

4 : 18.01 {CHF} - Finds Chipmunk with a handball. ===================================== SIREN SOUNDS FOR THE END OF QUARTER 4 Poland : 14.16.100 ROYSETC : 15.6.96 ===================================== Match Over! 18 mins quarter? Resim - dimsim laters
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AFTER-MATCH SUMMARY :
Rich (BB code): 
POLAND SENIORS Vs ROYSETC SENIORS
POLAND            2    8        4    9        5    12       14   16   100     
ROYSETC           4    0        7    4        13   5        15   6    96      
POLAND     HO  K  M  H  T  FF FA G  B   Dt  ROYSETC     HO  K  M  H  T  FF FA G  B   Dt
Latawski    0  1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    8  GWS Goose    0  2  2  9  1  0  0  0  0   34
Stalis      0  5  2  3  0  0  1  0  0   24  Tarkyn_24    0  9  3  8  0  1  1  0  0   50
Glogowski   0  6  2  5  1  1  2  0  0   33  hotchilli    0  3  1  5  0  0  1  0  0   19
Ruzanowski  0  5  5  6  1  0  1  0  0   43  Dingster     0  10 6  6  1  2  0  0  0   66
Bieniek     0  3  1  3  1  1  2  0  0   17  NinjaSwan    0  3  2  1  0  0  0  0  0   17
Pluzinski   0  1  0  1  1  0  1  0  1    7  omgfridge    0  10 5  7  1  1  1  0  0   61
Nogalski    0  5  3  7  0  0  0  1  1   45  Ned_Flande   0  8  1  11 1  0  1  1  0   56
Lysy        0  12 4  12 4  1  2  1  1   90  Mooch        0  10 5  16 2  1  2  0  0   80
Skibinski   0  13 6  8  3  1  1  0  0   83  TedDougChr   0  6  2  5  0  0  2  0  0   28
Czerwinski  0  9  5  8  1  1  1  0  1   61  Cats_R_Coo   0  3  6  12 0  1  2  1  0   52
Pilichiewi  0  9  4  10 1  0  0  1  0   69  Tonga Bob    0  6  6  13 1  1  3  3  0   76
Bieda       0  9  3  5  0  0  2  2  2   54  Headless     0  10 5  8  3  0  0  0  2   75
Bartkiewic  0  6  0  2  1  0  0  3  2   46  Lore         0  0  0  0  0  0  1  0  0   -3
Kowalik     0  3  1  0  1  1  1  0  3   17  Wosh         0  6  1  0  0  1  0  4  2   48
Horynek     0  4  1  1  0  0  0  4  0   41  zackah       0  0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    5
Krol        14 13 0  16 3  2  0  0  2  101  Chipmunk     12 9  0  13 3  2  3  0  1   71
Szeniec-Ki  0  8  0  7  9  6  0  1  2   88  Aristotle    0  15 0  16 6  2  1  4  0  124
Krupa       0  8  0  6  7  6  1  0  1   68  Bastyy       0  9  0  12 7  4  1  2  1   93
Nowak       0  7  5  9  0  0  1  1  0   57  Barrybran    0  5  6  11 0  0  0  0  0   55
Jarosinski  0  3  1  4  0  1  0  0  0   21  Supersuns    0  5  2  3  0  0  2  0  0   21

Rich (BB code): 
            POL   ROY
Hitouts   : 14   12
Kicks     : 130  129
Marks     : 44   54
Handballs : 114  157
Tackles   : 34   26
Frees For : 21   16
Frees Ag. : 16   21
Smothers  : 1    3
Ironouts  : 12   8
Inside50  : 23   19
Rebound50 : 21   26
Goals     : 14   15
Behinds   : 16   6

GOAL BY GOAL :
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First Quarter :
1.49 - Behind to Krol (POLAND) - POLAND by 1 point(s).
8.28 - Behind to Kowalik (POLAND) - POLAND by 2 point(s).
9.01 - Behind to Bieda (POLAND) - POLAND by 3 point(s).
9.25 - Rushed behind to POLAND - POLAND by 4 point(s).
12.07 - Rushed behind to POLAND - POLAND by 5 point(s).
12.36 - Behind to Bieda (POLAND) - POLAND by 6 point(s).
17.14 - Behind to Krupa (POLAND) - POLAND by 7 point(s).
17.38 - Goal to Horynek (POLAND) - POLAND by 13 point(s).
18.51 - Goal to Wosh (ROYSETC) - POLAND by 7 point(s).
20.2 - Goal to Horynek (POLAND) - POLAND by 13 point(s).
20.4 - Goal to Ned_Flanders (ROYSETC) - POLAND by 7 point(s).
23.01 - Goal to Wosh (ROYSETC) - POLAND by 1 point(s).
23.58 - Goal to Cats_R_Cool_4_Ever (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 5 point(s).
24.51 - Behind to Szeniec-Kiedrzynski (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 4 point(s).

Second Quarter :
2.41 - Behind to Wosh (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 5 point(s).
4.18 - Goal to Tonga Bob (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 11 point(s).
7.07 - Behind to Headless (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 12 point(s).
8.48 - Goal to Aristotle Pickett (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 18 point(s).
10.3 - Goal to Wosh (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 24 point(s).
12.35 - Rushed behind to ROYSETC - ROYSETC by 25 point(s).
13.19 - Behind to Wosh (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 26 point(s).
15.08 - Goal to Horynek (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 20 point(s).
17.42 - Rushed behind to POLAND - ROYSETC by 19 point(s).
18.38 - Goal to Lysy (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 13 point(s).

Third Quarter :
2.05 - Behind to Bastyy (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 14 point(s).
2.45 - Goal to Tonga Bob (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 20 point(s).
3.37 - Goal to Bieda (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 14 point(s).
6.23 - Goal to Aristotle Pickett (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 20 point(s).
7.52 - Behind to Szeniec-Kiedrzynski (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 19 point(s).
9.01 - Rushed behind to POLAND - ROYSETC by 18 point(s).
12.59 - Goal to Wosh (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 24 point(s).
15.25 - Goal to Aristotle Pickett (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 30 point(s).
16.57 - Behind to Bartkiewicz (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 29 point(s).
22.13 - Goal to Bastyy (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 35 point(s).
24.54 - Goal to Tonga Bob (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 41 point(s).

Final Quarter :
1.19 - Goal to Bartkiewicz (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 35 point(s).
4.01 - Behind to Lysy (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 34 point(s).
7.07 - Goal to Bieda (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 28 point(s).
8.28 - Goal to Bastyy (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 34 point(s).
9.37 - Goal to Bartkiewicz (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 28 point(s).
11.55 - Goal to Horynek (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 22 point(s).
12.47 - Rushed behind to POLAND - ROYSETC by 21 point(s).
13.39 - Goal to Bartkiewicz (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 15 point(s).
14.23 - Goal to Pilichiewicz (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 9 point(s).
17.3 - Goal to Szeniec-Kiedrzynski (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 3 point(s).
18.01 - Behind to Chipmunk (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 4 point(s).
18.01 - Goal to Aristotle Pickett (ROYSETC) - ROYSETC by 10 point(s).
18.01 - Goal to Nowak (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 4 point(s).
18.01 - Behind to Nogalski (POLAND) - ROYSETC by 3 point(s).
18.01 - Goal to Nogalski (POLAND) - POLAND by 3 point(s).
18.01 - Rushed behind to POLAND - POLAND by 4 point(s).

TIME ON GROUND :
Rich (BB code): 
POLAND
Latawski             0 (On) 14.32 (Off) 36.46 (On) Total : 78%
Stalis               0 (On) Total : 100%
Pluzinski            0 (On) 1.08 (Off) 7.12 (On) 63.19 (Off) 87.06 (On) Total : 70%
Ruzanowski           0 (On) Total : 100%
Nogalski             0 (On) 39.48 (Off) 93.01 (On) Total : 47%
Glogowski            0 (On) Total : 100%
Nowak                0 (On) 93.01 (Off) Total : 93%
Lysy                 0 (On) Total : 100%
Bartkiewicz          0 (On) 23.14 (Off) 63.19 (On) Total : 60%
Czerwinski           0 (On) Total : 100%
Pilichiewicz         0 (On) Total : 100%
Bieda                0 (On) Total : 100%
Bieniek              0 (On) 7.12 (Off) 23.14 (On) 37.43 (Off) 39.48 (On) Total : 82%
Kowalik              0 (On) Total : 100%
Horynek              0 (On) Total : 100%
Krol                 0 (On) Total : 100%
Szeniec-Kiedrzynski  0 (On) Total : 100%
Krupa                0 (On) Total : 100%
Skibinski            0 (Off) 2.45 (On) Total : 96%
Jarosinski           0 (Off) 1.08 (On) 2.45 (Off) 14.32 (On) 36.46 (Off) 37.43 (On) 87.06 (Off) Total : 72%

ROYSETC
Aristotle Pickett    0 (On) Total : 100%
Tarkyn_24            0 (On) Total : 100%
GWS Goose            0 (On) 36.1 (Off) 41.42 (On) Total : 94%
Dingster             0 (On) Total : 100%
Supersuns            0 (On) 66.37 (Off) Total : 66%
omgfridge            0 (On) Total : 100%
Ned_Flanders         0 (On) Total : 100%
Mooch                0 (On) Total : 100%
Barrybran            0 (On) 79.58 (Off) Total : 79%
Cats_R_Cool_4_Ever   0 (On) Total : 100%
Tonga Bob            0 (On) Total : 100%
Headless             0 (On) Total : 100%
Lore                 0 (On) Total : 100%
Wosh                 0 (On) Total : 100%
zackah               0 (On) Total : 100%
Chipmunk             0 (On) Total : 100%
hotchilli            0 (On) 11.19 (Off) 36.1 (On) Total : 75%
Bastyy               0 (On) Total : 100%
TedDougChris         0 (Off) 11.19 (On) 41.42 (Off) 79.58 (On) Total : 50%
NinjaSwan            0 (Off) 66.37 (On) Total : 33%

Total :  3600               Average :  90

MATCH-UPS :
  • Neither having much reason to brag, Horynek and Aristotle Pickett were hard to separate - though Horynek was slightly more effective. - 0m from 1 to 1.
  • In a resume-material performance, Aristotle Pickett was easily the winner in the clash with Szeniec-Kiedrzynski. - 86m from 7 to 93.
  • Toe to toe throughout, Barrybran did well against Nowak. - 73m from 2 to 75.
  • Regardless that this wasn't a huge game for either player, Bartkiewicz had hotchilli's measure. - 27m from 66 to 93.
  • Despite neither player having much impact, Ned_Flanders won the bout with Bartkiewicz. - 20m from 0 to 20.
  • While not all all one-way, Bastyy came out tops over the brave Krupa. - 92m from 1 to 93.
  • Toe to toe throughout, Bieda and Dingster were evenly matched. - 92m from 1 to 93.
  • In what was a very slow day for both, GWS Goose won the bout with Bieniek. - 2m from 0 to 2.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, Bieniek had the better of Lore. - 1m from 27 to 28.
  • In quite a tussle, Tonga Bob came out tops over the brave Bieniek. - 48m from 45 to 93.
  • In quite a tussle, Cats_R_Cool_4_Ever had the better of Glogowski. - 88m from 2 to 90.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, Cats_R_Cool_4_Ever did well against Pluzinski. - 0m from 93 to 93.
  • In an epic battle, Chipmunk and Krol were hard to separate - though Chipmunk was slightly more effective. - 100m from 0 to 100.
  • Toe to toe throughout, omgfridge did well against Czerwinski. - 89m from 4 to 93.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, Glogowski and Lore were hard to separate - though Glogowski was slightly more effective. - 0m from 93 to 93.
  • In quite a tussle, Horynek had the better of GWS Goose. - 36m from 57 to 93.
  • While very slim pickings for both players, GWS Goose had the better of Pluzinski. - 7m from 9 to 16.
  • In a resume-material performance, Headless won the bout with Ruzanowski. - 90m from 3 to 93.
  • While overall a quiet day for both players, TedDougChris gave Horynek a bit of a touch-up. - 29m from 12 to 41.
  • While overall a quiet day for both players, Jarosinski massacred Lore. - 29m from 44 to 73.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, zackah had the better of Jarosinski. - 17m from 18 to 35.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, Tarkyn_24 was easily the winner in the clash with Kowalik. - 85m from 8 to 93.
  • Neither getting, near the ball much, Latawski did a demolition job on zackah. - 29m from 45 to 74.
  • While not all all one-way, Lysy came out tops over the brave Mooch. - 90m from 3 to 93.
  • In quite a display, Skibinski had Ned_Flanders's measure. - 69m from 24 to 93.
  • In a comparatively small-fry arm wrestle, NinjaSwan either broke even with Pilichiewicz or vaguely bested him - it was hard to tell. - 22m from 71 to 93.
  • While overall a quiet day for both players, I'm not sure that what Nogalski did to TedDougChris should be entirely legal. - 0m from 93 to 93.
  • While both players struggled to make an impact, Tonga Bob came out tops over the brave Nogalski. - 31m from 2 to 33.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, TedDougChris either broke even with Nowak or vaguely bested him - it was hard to tell. - 13m from 80 to 93.
  • In a solid performance, Pilichiewicz had Supersuns's measure. - 66m from 0 to 66.
  • Neither having much reason to brag, hotchilli and Pluzinski were evenly matched. - 2m from 57 to 59.
  • In what became a bit of a clinic, I'm not sure that what Wosh did to Stalis should be entirely legal. - 55m from 18 to 73.
  • Spending most of the game pushing and shoving each other, Szeniec-Kiedrzynski and hotchilli were evenly matched. - 5m from 0 to 5.
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serial_thrilla said:
Is 12 rookies (from only 8 clubs) really worth celebrating though? Seems like a huge red flag, as it's significantly the lowest in league history:

Season 1 = 143
Season 2 = 103
Season 3 = 120
Season 4 = 144
Season 5 = 85
Season 6 = 121
Season 7 = 150
Season 8 = 86
Season 9 = 88
Season 10 = 50
Season 11 = 70
Season 12 = 46
Season 13 = 40
Season 14 = 53
Season 15 = 43
Season 16 = 75
Season 17 = 63
Season 18 = 72
Season 19 = 64
Season 20 = 31
Season 21 = 34
Season 22 = 51
Season 23 = 70
Season 24 = 35
Season 25 = 34
Season 26 = 50
Season 27 = 31
Season 28 = 36
Season 29 = 30
Season 30 = 31
Season 31 = 32
Season 32 = 34
Season 33 = 33
Season 34 = 33
Season 35 = 28
Season 36 = 27
Season 37 = 19
Season 38 = 12*
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No, it isn't. 12 is actually fairly dire, that's less than one rookie per club heading into Season 38. This was actually something I looked at last night as I was interested to see this figure given the decrease in activity as a whole across the competition and rookie recruitment that we've had over the past couple of seasons. There needs to be a steady stream of new players coming into the SFA each season. This doesn't have to be a large amount, but enough to ensure there there are newer players coming into the competition to replace those who elect to leave.

A target of two new players per club per season is an attainable goal I think, that's a total of 26 players new to the competition every season which is enough to sustain the competition going forward (you could also make an argument that 30-35 is about right, too).

The competition has been in a state of instability for the past few months in terms of leadership for varying reasons, so that's had an effect on what the SFA collectively can do heading into Season 38. State of Origin took priority over the off-season, but January 2025 heading into Season 39 is going to be key for the competition going forward. I would expect that board tours, banners and general advertising around the site would need to be conducted in order to start bringing a higher stream of newer players into the competition. This would also need to be something that happens each off-season for the foreseeable future to ensure the SFA brings in those new players to the competition to ensure there is replenish of activity going forward.

ClarkeM said:
Cut list sizes down to 25 and we might see better turnover of lists rather than teams freely pocketing 8 posters in their bank and not feeling the need to replenish stocks as we once used to.

But yes, spot on. Very alarming figures Serial. I'd be curious to know how retention levels have been over this time too though - I sense we experience more and more people wanting to stick around and be a part of their club (and this place) more than we used to in the past with many 2-3 season bursts from players before disappearing into the abyss. There's perhaps a silver lining in keeping people interested more often.
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Agreed, list sizes of 30 are pointless and serve no real purpose. Most clubs average between 14-19 posters per week over the course of a season and the early rounds would see low 20's, so 30 is way more than what's actually required. As we know, people drop off during the season and numbers decrease as we head towards the end of the home and away season and then the finals.

List sizes of 25 would be more realistic and ensures that a clubs can cut a lot of the non-posters that each team has and then replenish their lists during the off-season and also in season as they see fit. Lists of 25 also includes a contingency for temporary bans any player(s) may get during a season so that inactive players can take a spot for however long is needed while a ban is being served.

Another thing I'd look at bringing back is the Reserves' competition. This adds another layer of engagement to the competition and is a way for non-posters to remain involved in the competition, as well as former posters and is another method to create interest and activity which remains a very important element of this board.
 
NaturalDisaster said:
Another thing is is the lack of creativity in media, match threads are still ok, but media has no creativity anymore. Where is the storylines , the rivialries, the banter? Now its just qooty comps, which can be fun, but those aren’t going to get new posters in.
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I did suggest on several occasions that you needed to stop land-filling every new idea before it had a chance to flourish and maybe becoming something worth keeping around.

Unfortunately you are a large part of the reason the media landscape dropped right off, even a tenuous likeness to a thread from season 1-25, which was well before most of us joined, was binned within a few hours of being launched.

The Filth Wizard, please allow a little time for threads to become something before getting trigger happy and killing off any enthusiasm for trying something new. People learn from failures, by giving some time for feedback, it may just help point in the right direction for what will keep peoples attention.
 
ClarkeM said:
Just going to double down as I've thought about this more and more and honestly, I see this so differently to most of you I think. I think this is awesome in a way. We're arguably in the best position we've ever been in. An active community with little turnover, do we really need 80 new rookies each and every season? Or have we found an excellent balance of maintaining interest levels within existing posters. I think it's the latter.
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Jabba73 said:
I did suggest on several occasions that you needed to stop land-filling every new idea before it had a chance to flourish and maybe becoming something worth keeping around.

Unfortunately you are a large part of the reason the media landscape dropped right off, even a tenuous likeness to a thread from season 1-25, which was well before most of us joined, was binned within a few hours of being launched.

The Filth Wizard, please allow a little time for threads to become something before getting trigger happy and killing off any enthusiasm for trying something new. People learn from failures, by giving some time for feedback, it may just help point in the right direction for what will keep peoples attention.
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Lmao

I only landfilled threads that weren’t SFA league related.

Filthy was a much stricter landfiller during his first reign than I was btw :)
 
Well when 95% of match threads and media threads turn into kumbaya hand-held sing alongs, I can completely understand why the league is dying. No-one wants to banter anymore, the engagement has dropped off significantly since the focus of the league shifted to one giant circlejerk. Not being able to criticise anyone doesn't help either. Just like mid 2010s WWE, going PG has killed the product.
 
Supersuns said:
Well when 95% of match threads and media threads turn into kumbaya hand-held sing alongs, I can completely understand why the league is dying. No-one wants to banter anymore, the engagement has dropped off significantly since the focus of the league shifted to one giant circlejerk. Not being able to criticise anyone doesn't help either. Just like mid 2010s WWE, going PG has killed the product.
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Who is Vince in this analogy?
 
Ant Bear said:
Not coming back until we get rid of this ridiculous bye situation
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Well get pow-wowing and find a way to get a new team up. There’s enough people in the League to do it.
 
Wosh said:
Well get pow-wowing and find a way to get a new team up. There’s enough people in the League to do it.
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Perhaps we should resurrect e-AFL :think:
 

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