2010 Draw got 100,016. If the members were not locked out in those 4 GF's then the ground could have exceeded capacity?
Reduce the size of the MCC reserve
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My thoughts exactly. You'd have to be an idiot to pay $900 with no priority for match access. It sounds like Collingwood are ripping off their members.
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Not to mention another $600 odd for tickets to four finals. Club membership is the biggest rip off around.
The issue I see with increasing the reserved seat allocation is that it could possibly compound the issue we saw on Friday. I believe the main reason that the MCC was short on capacity was the "talk" during the week of a lock out which kept many away - decrease the walk-up and more and more may be kept away in fear of not getting in.
And walk-up won't ever fully go away if anyone suggests that - it's not what the members want as is their prerogative.
It's a very fine line for the MCC to balance and this is the only time in the 4 years I've been a member that I can remember a situation like we saw on Friday.
I've worked out it'd be cheaper for me to buy Access One tickets than i currently pay for my level 1 reserve seat at Etihad (probably a good seat if you like an up close view of the players ankles). If they can't find me a better seat I might have to weigh it up, most years I'm told they've given me "best available".
Essendon wold be better implementing a walk up policy, would also help with the entry procedure at Marvel stadium.
Unless you want to actually support your football club you profess to support???
The MCC is a parasite club gifted control of a crown asset by the government
Bleeding $900 off members who aren't even offered access to a ticket? That would make Collingwood the parasites. They certainly aren't alone in exploiting supporters misplaced sense of loyalty.
The MCC pay for the stadium the match is played in. Don't like their members having access then move your home games someplace else that the Collingwood membership paid for, they must've done something with that $900 you gave them?
I pay over $600 per year you know to finance the ground that you play your home games on. Obviously if you have an issue with it I'd suggest lobbying Eddie to get games back to Viccy Park?
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If you figure it’s a donation, then sure.
The staggering ripoff of clubs membership is finals tickets. You pay full whack. Some members pay more for three or four finals than their season ticket. It’s an absolute rort. And I’m pretty sure that amount goes straight to the AFL, as they’re not club home games.
- Aug 17, 2006
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Couldn't agree more. I wasn't going anyway on Friday night, but if I'd been 50/50 when I left for work on Friday there's a pretty good chance that the trickle of Richmond and Collingwood supporting MCC members that started leaving from about 2pm would have persuaded me that it wasn't worth going.
The MCC could help itself here with some more useful live updates on social media on the night. It's reasonable to assume that they could have a decent crack at estimating the crowd size in the queue prior to gates opening (at least within 500 either way) and provide updates within half an hour as to the number of total seats left and (if there still is a queue) a rough estimate of how many remain out the front. My guess is that people see a massive queue back to Jolimont station, or snaking around those cattle grid things and they wouldn't have a clue if it was 5000 people, or 8000, or 10,000. But the MCC would presumably have a fair idea.
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There is an option to add club support to your annual MCC membership, with the equivalent of a 3 game membership going back to the club you support. Many, many MCC members do this. It's a shame for those who can only get on their high horse about MCC members not contributing to the clubs that the support, but I'm afraid it's a fact.
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It's not the MCC's responsibility to bail out members of big Victorian clubs who feel that they have been hoodwinked by their club membership, or who haven't bothered to understand what their membership level actually guarantees them.
Full members
Restricted members
Provisional members
Guests of members
Everyone else
You're a fair way down the pecking order.
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Um there was plenty of updates stating heaps of seats available from 5:30pm when the queue cleared...
Missed this, well said.
The mcc is an anachronism that survives because of path dependency
I’m resigned to the reality this parasite anachronism is here to stay but spare us the nonsense your $600 a year for everything is anything else than you free loading because daddy put your name down on a list when you were born.
If $600 a year was a fair price to pay there wouldnt be a 30 plus year waiting list.
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Why don’t they issue queue tickets for walk ups? Costs nothing, stops people having to stand around for hours or even days outside the gate, and they know exactly how many are in the queue.
Then it’s just a case of sending out updates
2000 walk ups left
1000 walks ups left
We’re opening reserve to provisional members because it’s not going to fill
Etc
Genuine queue tickets of course - you can only get them at the gate
If people want to stand there they can, but don’t have to waste their time if they don’t or if it’s going to be a lockout.
Then there will be a 1 day queue for a queue ticket lol.
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There was an update at 2:40 and one at 5:50. The 2:40 one simply showed a queue building on the grassed area adjacent to gate 2. How much more useful would it have been if that update included "About 1200 in the queue at 2:40..."
5:30 is too late for the first update. People would have already started to head home. On the other hand, if they posted an update from 2:30 (or when the estimated queue cracks 1000, whichever comes first) and then they kept updating every half hour from then, that would give a pretty good gauge of how it's building.
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At the risk of tarring everyone with the same brush, the people who queue outside the MCC for 24+ hours before the gates open are losers who are just hoping to get on TV.
Are you just going off the tweets I posted? Check the MCC feed - there were heaps more. I just posted those select ones to show an example of how the MCC communication was not scare mongering to hype the event.
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No, I was checking the MCC's Facebook page. Those are the only posts from Friday afternoon before the game.
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Which is fine. It’s no different to queuing for the game itself, except they don’t have to stand there the whole time and they have a much better idea ahead of time how many people are coming and whether they should warn about a lockout or tell provisional members etc to come in.
Your queue ticket barcode just enters you in order. For example, barcodes for only the first 500 people work from gates open for 15 mins. Then the screens change and numbers up to 1000 only work for the next 15 mins, etc and on it goes.
Trying to guess how many people will come and having a 13k long line seems such a stupid and archaic way of doing things.
MCC generates $130m of revenue a year. Over $50m of that is membership subs.
If you can arrange club members to chip that in I’m sure they can change the arrangements for you.
I’m not an MCC member for the record.
You're clearly just trolling Bigfooty.
There were updates at 2:30 and 3:30 showing SFA people in the queue. And then they starting begging for people at 5:30.
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The MCC is going to review its systems. I’m an MCC member and saw various updates showing the development of the queue over the afternoon. I think most people had made their mind up not to go based on anticipation of the size of the crowd. I was in the MCC about 6.15. The first three levels were taken. 6 bays of walk ups remained. Id be interested to know how many entered the reserve after this time as this will provide a guide on peoples decision making
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This isn’t correct. There were multiple updates of the queue by the MCC. Definitely at 3:30pm and again at 5:25pm. The gates didn’t open till 5pm. So they don’t 100% know numbers till the queue clears. They provided an update at 5:25pm on Facebook saying the queue had cleared and plenty of seats available. Someone else provided the photos up thread to show this.
