Maginess tagged him. Played an amazing qtr in the last to break the shackles
Autopsy Roast & Toast vs Hawthorn, Changes for Melbourne, Sunday July 30
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Maginess tagged him. Played an amazing qtr in the last to break the shackles
Watching the highlights , baker was good , v e r y good
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we're in their headAre they melting more at their game than they were at our comeback coz that was epic
hawks are their biggest rival and they were barracking for them against us
Again we are forced to play against 4 extra players, and again, like last week, Umpire #37 did everything in his power, but failed in the end. Some serious booing of the men in phlegm as they left the ground. Abysmal standard of umpiring.
I was not happy with Macca and was hoping he would be subbed, but in the end, along with Baker and Coulthard, they made the difference in the last 2-3 minutes. The glowing praise for mini needs to be dialed down a bit, because we should never be 5 goals down against a bottom 3 side to begin with. The game changer was Miller & Cotchins' mistake which led to the 5 goals to the hawks - but before that, absolutely nothing was done to curb Wingard's early influence and losing centre clearances consistently to Worpel and Newcombe was alarmingly left to run its course. The experiment with Pickett in the forward line needs to stop. He is a mid or winger. Yes we won, but there are three other sides that have drawn this year and their percentages are superior. Under 40 point wins combined in the last 2 weeks is not going to get the job done (finals).
Loved Baker's game and I really hope he is Captain in the next year or two. Taranto, Ross and Dusty impressive along with Balta down back and Rioli's last quarter runs were slowly breaking the Hawks hold on the game. I hope we leave Banks in the side and Coultard is a certain starter next week. Hopefully Short is not too far away.
I feel for Jack as he was held, shoved in the back, had his arms chopped and was paid nothing against Sicily, who was caught HTB twice in the dying minutes, but of course, play on - nothing to see here. Ironic that he tries to be "everything" down back to position himself for the intercept, but he rolled the dice too often and his man Baker wins the game. Fitting.
I'm always happy with a win, and a win with all the odds against us (even the "play on" in the last 16 seconds which was BS) is a great way to start the evening.. Buuuut - we should NEVER allow such easy scoring against us - against bottom sides. We saw what Brisbane did once they caught us napping, and it will happen again if we don't work it out.
Can't drop Macca after his last quarter effort. Ditto Pickett as there could potentially be 2-3 Father / Sons... No way do we drop Coulthard or Banks... Maybe Miller for Coulthard ?
What a win, but we have to improve A LOT by next week... We are still a sneaky chance...
I was not happy with Macca and was hoping he would be subbed, but in the end, along with Baker and Coulthard, they made the difference in the last 2-3 minutes. The glowing praise for mini needs to be dialed down a bit, because we should never be 5 goals down against a bottom 3 side to begin with. The game changer was Miller & Cotchins' mistake which led to the 5 goals to the hawks - but before that, absolutely nothing was done to curb Wingard's early influence and losing centre clearances consistently to Worpel and Newcombe was alarmingly left to run its course. The experiment with Pickett in the forward line needs to stop. He is a mid or winger. Yes we won, but there are three other sides that have drawn this year and their percentages are superior. Under 40 point wins combined in the last 2 weeks is not going to get the job done (finals).
Loved Baker's game and I really hope he is Captain in the next year or two. Taranto, Ross and Dusty impressive along with Balta down back and Rioli's last quarter runs were slowly breaking the Hawks hold on the game. I hope we leave Banks in the side and Coultard is a certain starter next week. Hopefully Short is not too far away.
I feel for Jack as he was held, shoved in the back, had his arms chopped and was paid nothing against Sicily, who was caught HTB twice in the dying minutes, but of course, play on - nothing to see here. Ironic that he tries to be "everything" down back to position himself for the intercept, but he rolled the dice too often and his man Baker wins the game. Fitting.
I'm always happy with a win, and a win with all the odds against us (even the "play on" in the last 16 seconds which was BS) is a great way to start the evening.. Buuuut - we should NEVER allow such easy scoring against us - against bottom sides. We saw what Brisbane did once they caught us napping, and it will happen again if we don't work it out.
Can't drop Macca after his last quarter effort. Ditto Pickett as there could potentially be 2-3 Father / Sons... No way do we drop Coulthard or Banks... Maybe Miller for Coulthard ?
What a win, but we have to improve A LOT by next week... We are still a sneaky chance...
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We're ****ed against the Dees next week if we don't find another tall in a hurry to keep Lever and May occupied.
Depending on if Grundy comes back in, I'd be tempted to try something different and throw Young forward.
Depending on if Grundy comes back in, I'd be tempted to try something different and throw Young forward.
mate we haven’t got a forward line , we were like 8g9 to 14g3 same no of chances , cotch jack shai cluster fkd simple chances and we could barely contest v Sicily 13 marks even though the cnts blocked jack for half of them , yep frost would literally stand behind him that’s why jack couldn’t get within 2m
so we were giving ourselves every chance and shooting ourselves in the foot
it’s a very good sign to finish the game strongly , 21 tackles to 9 4Q , all indicated a huge effort and put it all on the line when it counted
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I agreed with commentary about the free against Grimes. Mansell needed to make more of an effort to get to the ball and and fumble/knock it over the line. Except he stood back and watched it. Therefore the ump had no option but to penalise Grimes.
Pretend for a sec we are playing under the old 'deliberate' rule - if Grimes deliberately went for the boundary line and Mansell had a chance of keeping it in, but he chose to stand back and watch the ball go out of play, then Grimes would still be penalised for deliberate.
Apply the same logic to the new harsher OOB rule interpretation: Grimes was in the clear, in posseession, and he elected to kick the ball towards the boundary line. He isn't saved by the fact that it was roughly headed in Mansell's general direction. He needed to kick the ball further inside the field of play to Mansell. Not to the boundary line. When Mansell saw his kick was going out, he needed to make more an effort to get there and touch the ball.
That's the rule.
Anyway, fans complain WAY TOO MUCH about these frees. It rarely catches the defenders out. They've kicked the ball away from goal and they have numbers back ready to defend the next inside fifty. Much ado about nothing, I think.
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The 2 decisions which went Sicily's way are easily explainable. I'm not saying the ump was correct. Just playing devil's advocate and trying to understand WHY instead of labelling him a "cheating dog".
1. For the hold: The umpire was obviously blind-sided and he missed it. It happens. Umps aren't always in best position and they sometimes miss the obvious free that everyone else sees. It doesn't make them "corrupt". Ease up! Imagine if every time Jack Riewoldt missed a shot at goal, people accused him of match-fixing and taking bribes from bookies.
Perhaps another umpire could've awarded the free kick, but you rarely see that. It would be a massive call for an umpire 50m away to overrule the ump who was 15m away and give Jack a free shot at the goal in the 4th qtr of a close game.
2. For the in the back to Sicily... That was pretty well milked by Sic. Jack put a hand in his back and gave him a little push and Sicily fell forwards. Annoying for Jack and tigers fans, but you can't exactly complain about it. This is how the game is umpired. if you get in someone's back and they go to ground, a free kick is always likely. (Although, Marlion Pickett seemed to get away with a few against Sicily)
They were hardly "momemtum changers". Richmond had all the momentum. These decisions didn't result in Hawthorn goals.
A momentum changing decision was the "dangerous tackle" against Reeves to Soldo in the 1st quarter. Hawks were leading 4 goals to 1. They were well on top. Soldo grabbed the ball, was tackled, made no effort to dispose of it and was taken to the ground.
For the last 120 years, that's been holding the ball. But under the current shitty rule interpretation, crafty players have quickly learned to hold onto the ball and let themselves be rag-dolled in order to milk a dangerous tackle. Doesn't make it right. It sucks.
Goal to Richmond and then another... There's your "momentum changer".
Hawks went into quarter time with a 6 point lead after they'd dominated the 1st quarter.
I reckon we need a third tall next week to try to counter Lever and May. Ryan if the conditions are dry. Miller has been quite effective and will have a key role next week to defend May or Lever. Definitely need Cumbo in for Pickett I think. Coulthard is a stayer, he certainly livened up our forward line. Probably worth starting him on that performance. Play Mansell as sub.
Was an obvious dangerous tackle and I'd be shocked if Reeves is available to play next week.
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Today shows we need to play small, fast and skilled
It’s our only chance without Lynch
Cumbo, Coulthard and Judson should all be in the 22
It’s our only chance without Lynch
Cumbo, Coulthard and Judson should all be in the 22
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Watching the reply of the last and noticed another move Mini made
Moved Pickett into the ruck to take a few centre bounces
Resulted in our first centre clearance of the qtr
Moved Pickett into the ruck to take a few centre bounces
Resulted in our first centre clearance of the qtr
I know we won, but for large parts Hawks looked far too quick for us.
Definitely need a bit more speed next week.
Definitely need a bit more speed next week.
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gutsy win, cheered them home like others. Shorty and Nank sitting next to me. Gave shortys mum a hug after the game. coultardt a gun. balta will win a brownlow one day and tartautula will win it this year. up yours cornes.
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Baker had two possessions in that chain of play that ended up with him scoring the winning goal from 20m out. His first possession was at centre half back when he moved the ball over to Ross on the wing.
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Reeves will be suspended for sure. The AFL media have already seen to that. The MRO (Michael Christian) doesn't review games and make independent decisions. He reacts to the commentary and to the media drawing his attention to various incidents. Nathan Buckley was pretty determined to act as judge, jury and executioner against Reeves and they replayed it 5 times. There's also a clip on the AFL website asking if Reeves is in "hot water"... He is gone...
It still doesn't change the fact that for 120 years of footy, Soldo would've been penalised for holding the ball. But now we let players get away with that. Nor does it alter my opinion the current 'dangerous tackle' rule stinks and it's being milked by players. (Only the AFL kool-aid drinkers would think otherwise)
It'll be very interesting to see if Sam Banks is scrutinised for his sling tackle on Dylan Moore (with 2:40 left in the 3rd quarter)
For some strange reason, King and Buckley opted to stay silent about this one. I heard Bucks mutter something (Ooh! Another sling tackle?) But he was noticeably less strident, even thought it was pretty much identical to Reeves vs Soldo. Just a different camera angle. It didn't occur in the middle of the ground with a side-on camera view. Happened down beneath the camera near the interchange bench.
Bucks was quite forthright about there being "no head contact" (with the ground) even though there clearly was.
I'm betting Banks won't be scrutinised because it was glossed over the commentators and media.
That's how it works. The media picks and chooses who they go after and the MRO reacts accordingly.
Anyway, I've said my piece, so I'll leave it there. I'm still curious to know why people here thought the umps were against them. What were the other decisions that went against Richmond that you disagreed with?
I didn't think the umpires had a huge influence, this way or that. There were the usual errors & line-ball decisions which went both ways. The umps missed an obvious free to Jack in the last quarter, but the Tigers were gifted a goal before 3/4 time from a thin-skinned Poindexter who penalised Sicily for dissent.
i don't want it to sound like I'm whinging about the umps or about us losing... The best team won in the end. Hawks were tenacious and plucky for 3 quarters. But a great last quarter by Richmond and an equally poor last quarter by Hawthorn.
Good luck over the next month.
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