Autopsy Round 12, 2024: Positives and Negatives vs St Kilda

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The more I think back on Gaff's game the better I think it was. He was clean when receiving awkward half volleys and his disposal given the situations he was in was pretty good.

He was down back helping out a fair bit it seemed and positioned himself nicely. Surprised he got credited with 0 tackles because I thought he had some on the wing in the last. Took some hits as well.

He came in and got 21 touches and a goal. So how do we get our other wingers to get the ball as much?

He's not a long term solution, but if he does get 20+ next week as well, what can the other players do to copy him? (Edwards, Hunt, Chesser etc)

Interesting he played 84% TOG when he'd normally be +95%
 
Bailey Williams ... I rate him in the centre bounce. That's about it at the moment.

Has a good leap, decent ground work follow up in the centre bounce and normally gets a few clearances out of the middle.

I think Jack Williams won't be far off overtaking him though.

Bailey's a great athlete, not the best mark unfortunately. Can he become something else? A strong runner? Can we adapt his game so he has more strings to his bow?
I do not rate Williams in center ruck at all. He plays as a midfielder in there.

Everytime he gets a tap he grabs it and boots it in the f50.
 

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Too much reliance on Reid in midfield. Gaff, Sheed and Trew are all not AFL level players right now and never will be in the future.
3 plodders in Sheed, Gaff and Trew was always going to work so well.

Last quarter vision is damning.
 
I just don’t understand what we are doing as a club.

Gaff And Sheed weren’t too bad today, but why are they in the side at all? do we think that we are going to play finals? Surely we can’t be that delirious?

We should be bringing in and keeping in young guys to have a look at them, see what they have to offer and develop them at AFL level to see what they need to get better at for improve on.

Secondly, why do we bring guys that dominate at a lower level in a certain position into the team, and then play them in a position that is not the one they dominate in? It doesn’t help the young players confidence, and it doesn’t help the team. Trew attended one Centre bounce from what I saw and he won that clearance, then he was sent to the forward line again to play out of position and Simmo just loves doing that shit. It makes no sense.

Thirdly, how long do we have to watch Bailey Williams have no idea of how to play as a forward before they stop doing it? His best has been when he filled in as a Ruckman and he’s taken some great marks around the ground, but whenever he goes forward, he can’t take the Mark or he can’t kick straight. Today at least he kicks straight with the one mark that he did take, but one Mark is not enough to be a forward when you’re that size and strength.

Last, why are we not instructing our Big players to put a block on for Harley when he’s got a tag on him? This is the sort of shit that a local level coach would do. If we arent trying to tank then I don’t know what the **** we doing.

This should be another year of developing young guys and not wasting our time with players that we know our past and won’t take us to a flag. We should be seeing guys like, hall, Burgiel, dewar and Johnston for more than one quarter or more than one game to see what they’ve got.

It just drives me ****ing crazy.
match committee on crack
 
Umpiring was incredibly frustrating both ways.

HTB, hands in the back, high contact and holding off the ball all varied wildly throughout.


Having a 4th umpire only seems to result in providing a greater variance of interpretation during the match.


Think it's time Simpson speaks out about what is holding the man around stoppage as well. Windhager was allowed to pull at, and hold back Reid throughout the entire second half without a single free kick being paid against him.

If N.Daicos received the same treatment, he'd be getting frees all over the place. Time to highlight that and call out the double standard that is currently being received by the club in the middle.
 
Has a long way to go as a forward. Pretty likely to get squeezed out when Oscar is back but may be able to usurp an inconsistent Jack Darling by pushing further up the ground and creating contests.

The one thing he has over Darling is he isn’t completely cooked once the ball hits the deck.
Darling just gets muscled out of the contest and then looks for the umpire to have a whinge, while the opposition run away with it. Rinse repeat.
 
3 plodders in Sheed, Gaff and Trew was always going to work so well.

Last quarter vision is damning.
The problem is, who plays instead of them? Culley, Hall and ??? None of them are quick either
 
Gaff & Sheed are getting games because there’s no one else who’s really playing WAFL that’s ready & would have made much difference to the result. It’s just first & second year kids.

The outs for the week really messed with the structures. Waterman was a massive loss & then you have the fact that Flynn was back so we where working out how to best to use him & B.Williams.

Really not sure why there’s so much melting about selections & Simmo.
 
I'd take it if Harley won but history isn't exactly littered with superstars winning the award. The good story is every week with this guy fending off superstars of the game and kicking goal of the year, breaking tackles and grabbing hangers. No one can stop talking about him. Award or no award everyone knows who the real rising star is.
If cripps and fyfe get let off woth fines and go on to win a brownlow in their respective years then reid.should get.off.
 

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3 plodders in Sheed, Gaff and Trew was always going to work so well.

Last quarter vision is damning.
Speed isn't everything.

Jones, Petruccelle and Chesser have a decent amount of it and none of them did much with it.

Although I agree they shouldn't all play in the middle, Gaff was kept to the wing and the centre bounce usually had Yeo, Ginbey, Reid or Sheed.
 
The more I think back on Gaff's game the better I think it was. He was clean when receiving awkward half volleys and his disposal given the situations he was in was pretty good.

He was down back helping out a fair bit it seemed and positioned himself nicely. Surprised he got credited with 0 tackles because I thought he had some on the wing in the last. Took some hits as well.

He came in and got 21 touches and a goal. So how do we get our other wingers to get the ball as much?

He's not a long term solution, but if he does get 20+ next week as well, what can the other players do to copy him? (Edwards, Hunt, Chesser etc)

Interesting he played 84% TOG when he'd normally be +95%
We forget that Gaff is a player that averaged 30 touches for like five seasons in a row. He has always been elite at finding the ball. He SHOULD still be better than guys like chesser. Hunt just isnt the same level of player.
 
Speed isn't everything.

Jones, Petruccelle and Chesser have a decent amount of it and none of them did much with it.

Although I agree they shouldn't all play in the middle, Gaff was kept to the wing and the centre bounce usually had Yeo, Ginbey, Reid or Sheed.
You dont have to get touches to apply pressure tho. You need speed to apply pressure.
 
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+ Ryan starting to slowly look like his old self
+Flynn looked comfortable, if not amazing, out there. Will only get better.
+I actually thought sheed did pretty well today
+Gov and Barass....as always....that spear tackle was awesome to see up close

-just really poor when the ball was on the deck, nobody using their iq
-saints waltzed it out of our forward line very easily on many occasions
-seem to always commit one player too many to contact which allows an overlap for the saints and they take full advantage
-im not one to blame the umps, usually I blame our boys first, but fmd.....in the last quarter the umpiring was unhinged, st.kilda got away with at very least half a dozen drops and throws....amongst other dodgy call or non calls

Norf next week, surely we get up there......surely
 
Gaff & Sheed are getting games because there’s no one else who’s really playing WAFL that’s ready & would have made much difference to the result. It’s just first & second year kids.

The outs for the week really messed with the structures. Waterman was a massive loss & then you have the fact that Flynn was back so we where working out how to best to use him & B.Williams.

Really not sure why there’s so much melting about selections & Simmo.
The only way first and second year players get better is by playing AFL. Harvey played well in his limited minutes at AFL level and should have been given more opportunity. Dewar did well at AFL level with his limited minutes.
 
Grim game in plenty of ways. I hate watching Saints games as a neutral fan and that was a good reminder of why.

Ginbey big positive - keeps building and was genuinely good today.

So good to have Ryan back.

Flynn clearly underdone but good to get that incorporation started.

Gaff was pretty good especially in the first half. Sheed similar. Should they have been playing? Maybe not, but can see why they did with Kelly out which I'm guessing was known before Thursday.

Hope we ask the question of the umpiring department about Harley's treatment with the tag. Was way over the line at times and we need to put it on the radar to at least get umps looking at it at least before it becomes the go to against him.
 

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