Round 15 Rising Star

[citizen-erased]

And Witherden has had two outstanding games in a row. 49 touches in his first two AFL games.

Still I don't begrudge Hardwick getting a nom - defenders are often very underrated

ah yes. Witheden has been sensational.

 

[bungalow_bill]

Pretty good crop in general this year. Most years they are starting to scratch around for noms about now but there are at least four others who have been important parts of their side and are in line for a legit Nom by the end of the year. Ainsworth, Witherden, fiorini, Curnow, Darcy all would be nominated by now in any other year.

That Darcy reminds me of Mumford when he was a massive fat campaigner teenager at Geelong. If he puts the yards in he will be awesome.

+ Berry. The quality in the 2016 draft runs deep

 

[PTizzle]

Well deserved for Hardwick. Like seeing defenders get recognition

 

[PTizzle]

The public should be made to vote. Much better judges of performance and impact. AFL should focus on getting the umpiring right.

Dead set one of the worst ideas I've ever heard

 

[HeHateMe]

looks like we are at the stage of the season they are nominating the players for the body of work. Well deserved Hardwick!

 

[HeHateMe]

Fiorini a lock for next week?

 

[Jobe Watson]

Witherden, C Curnow, Ainsworth, daylight, Hardwick. Curnow has put a pretty impressive 5-6 weeks together. Stiff. But well done to Hardwick and Hawthorn, looks a good prospect.

I forgot Witherden and Fiorini.

So I'd probably have Hardwick as 6th best performed this week. Ainsworth, Curnow, Darcy, Witherden and Fiorini were all better. I get that they gave it to him based on consistency, but it would have been more understandable last week when there weren't many standouts.

 

[Chaisa]

I'd consider Hardwick more deserving than McCluggage. He's at least been very good for the last month even if there were a few better this week. I'm sure Ainsworth, Fiorini, Curnow, Darcy, Witherden, etc. will get noms eventually.

 

[HairyO]

I forgot Witherden and Fiorini.

So I'd probably have Hardwick as 6th best performed this week. Ainsworth, Curnow, Darcy, Witherden and Fiorini were all better. I get that they gave it to him based on consistency, but it would have been more understandable last week when there weren't many standouts.

The winners pretty much always come from the first half dozen or so weeks?

Im sure there is a list of 3 or 4 players who will get nominated from now on based on having really good seasons, rather than stand out games - and none are at all likely to win.

 

[daniel23]

Everyone seems to just look at possesions and supercoach scores , elliot and betts to a goal a piece id say thats more imoressive then getting 26 possies playing loose through the middle

 

[Foxx1]

Blake Hardwick. Elite disposal efficiency, counts for more than just possessions down back. He looks like a 100+ gamer on ball, so composed, rarely makes an error. Seems the judges actually voted with their brains rather than ruining off the stat sheet.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Hawthorn's returns on recent Rising Stars have been a little underwhelming.

2017 Blake Hardwick, Ryan Burton
2016 James Sicily
2015 Billy Hartung
2013 Brad Hill, Jed Anderson
2011 Luke Breust, Shane Savage
2010 Ben Stratton
2009 Garry Moss
2008 Jarryd Morton

 

[jiphoc]

Hawthorn's returns on recent Rising Stars have been a little underwhelming.

2017 Blake Hardwick, Ryan Burton
2016 James Sicily
2015 Billy Hartung
2013 Brad Hill, Jed Anderson
2011 Luke Breust, Shane Savage
2010 Ben Stratton
2009 Garry Moss
2008 Jarryd Morton

Winning 4 premierships will do that to you. Such is life I guess

 

[BlueWaterHawk]

Hawthorn's returns on recent Rising Stars have been a little underwhelming.

2017 Blake Hardwick, Ryan Burton
2016 James Sicily
2015 Billy Hartung
2013 Brad Hill, Jed Anderson
2011 Luke Breust, Shane Savage
2010 Ben Stratton
2009 Garry Moss
2008 Jarryd Morton

In an 18 team competition, I'd have said that was about average really. 22/18 = 1.22 rising star nominations per year per club. So above average since the new franchise clubs arrived.

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[Art Vandelay_]

Nothing against young Hardwick, keeping Betts and Elliott quiet is worthy of praise and recognition.

Should the award hand out nominations for consistency or should it purely be based on which young player had the best game in the given round is the question worth asking.

On that I'd say Fiorini shouldn't be nominated next week if he's not the best performed player eligible.

Did Hardwick have the best game this weekend? I didn't see much of that game so cannot comment but I did think Witherden and Ainsworth were very good.

 

[cotter101]

Hardwick has been very good. Was about 5/6 players who were all deserving this week.

 

[HARKER]

Dead set one of the worst ideas I've ever heard

Why is it a bad idea?
Surely we all watch the nine games per week and can be 100% objective, never favouring our own clubs?

 

[RaySamuel]

I dont know who or what an Ainsworth is, must be a game i missed, but if he's eligible and kicked 4 goals in a win as a first year player he'd be hard to go past.

It's a salad dressing I think

Actually... I can see marinating a chicken in that

 

[FirstAccount]

I can see them changing the format next year. More and more kids are playing in their first years and doing really well.

 

[ML4Hodgy]

Nothing against young Hardwick, keeping Betts and Elliott quiet is worthy of praise and recognition.

Should the award hand out nominations for consistency or should it purely be based on which young player had the best game in the given round is the question worth asking.

On that I'd say Fiorini shouldn't be nominated next week if he's not the best performed player eligible.

Did Hardwick have the best game this weekend? I didn't see much of that game so cannot comment but I did think Witherden and Ainsworth were very good.

For reference, Hardwick was the only player eligible to be nominated who received coaches votes this week.
So at least one of Bucks or Clarko thought he was in the best 5 on he ground.

 

[James Colorado]

You think a small lockdown defender gets cheap kicks in the backhalf? and that why he got a nom?

He got a nom because he barely loses a 1 on 1 contest, his disposal is elite and his decision making is superb for a kid of his age.

Hawk supporters lost their proverbial shit when a forward pocket was named this year in the backhalf and he's made every single one of us eat humble pie.

Eating humble pie with a grin, mate.

 

[Ron The Bear]

In an 18 team competition, I'd have said that was about average really. 22/18 = 1.22 rising star nominations per year per club. So above average since the new franchise clubs arrived.

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Referring to quality rather than numbers.

 

[Ron The Bear]

I can see them changing the format next year. More and more kids are playing in their first years and doing really well.

It goes in cycles. Some very old teams - North, Hawthorn, Freo - have hit the wall so clubs are less reticent about pushing kids up.

 

[Spanish Sahara]

For reference, Hardwick was the only player eligible to be nominated who received coaches votes this week.
So at least one of Bucks or Clarko thought he was in the best 5 on he ground.

He didnt get any coaches votes

 

[bungalow_bill]

Referring to quality rather than numbers.

Come on the Hawks were winning flags or towards the top of the table for most of those years. So they did ok considering the average picks they had 2008 - 2016