Game Day Round 19 vs. Hawthorn, MCG, 4:35pm Saturday 20/07

[Kirby]

Just deleted that post because big footy cut off half the post I typed. It crashed so I copied it. Fortunately was still on the clipboard.

My actual post was all this

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Frampton dropped?! Especially when no Cox to share ruck work. Our selection committee has done some questionable things this year. This might take the cake.

We need continuity in the side. Injuries already have made that tough.

Darcy Moore going to be shown up even more without him. At least Howe will have to play backline now where he belongs and is sorely needed.

Let’s hope our midfield keeps the ball out of D50 as much as possible!

You should have left it in the bin

 

[domus]

Would you prefer to bring them back before the medicos tick them of with possibility of being out for half of next year?

I was proven correct in my assessment of McStay's return. He looked good in the VFL and could just as easily play the same minutes in the seniors where injury is no more likely. The Collingwood injury people were saying Cox was close. Plenty of teams have put their long term injured straight back into the seniors with overall excellent results. Our whole season is on the line this week.

I want to keep believing and I hope our club does too.

 

[NMBB]

Unsociable football please Pies

 

[NMBB]

I was proven correct in my assessment......

Is this important to you here (and elsewhere)?

 

[domus]

Is this important to you here (and elsewhere)?

Yep. I like being correct much more than incorrect-don't you?

 

[NMBB]

Yep. I like being correct much more than incorrect-don't you?

If I was solving a mathematical equation yes - for me BF is just a bit of fun - there's not a lot of objectively provable right and wrong here

 

[Maggie5]

Saturday 20 July
Hawthorn v Collingwood
MCG, Wurundjeri
3:45pm (AEST)
IN: McStay, Howe, Sullivan
OUT: Schultz (concussion), Harrison (managed), Frampton (omitted)

COLLINGWOOD V GEELONG
B	Brayden Maynard	Darcy Moore	Isaac Quaynor
HB	John Noble	Oleg Markov	Nick Daicos
C	Steele Sidebottom	Scott Pendlebury	Josh Daicos
HF	Bobby Hill	Dan McStay	Jeremy Howe
F	Joe Richards	Patrick Lipinski	Jamie Elliott
R	Darcy Cameron	Jordan De Goey	Jack Crisp
INT	Nathan Kreuger	Reef McInnes	Will Hoskin-Elliott
	Lachlan Sullivan	Ned Long
EMG	Billy Frampton	Finlay Macrae	Jack Bytel

Markov lucky to survive, last chance I would have thought.

 

[live fast pieyoung]

we will win

 

[Piesinmyeyes]

Any chance Lipinski can pull his finger out this week?
Non existent last week.
Not really enamoured with the side tbh, if we scrape in it will be by usual 1- 6 points..

 

[jmac70]

I was proven correct in my assessment of McStay's return. He looked good in the VFL and could just as easily play the same minutes in the seniors where injury is no more likely. The Collingwood injury people were saying Cox was close. Plenty of teams have put their long term injured straight back into the seniors with overall excellent results. Our whole season is on the line this week.

I want to keep believing and I hope our club does too.

 

[cfc19902010]

Any chance Lipinski can pull his finger out this week?
Non existent last week.
Not really enamoured with the side tbh, if we scrape in it will be by usual 1- 6 points..

He’s lucky to still be there with the bruise free efforts lately

 

[windchimes]

I was proven correct in my assessment of McStay's return. He looked good in the VFL and could just as easily play the same minutes in the seniors where injury is no more likely. The Collingwood injury people were saying Cox was close. Plenty of teams have put their long term injured straight back into the seniors with overall excellent results. Our whole season is on the line this week.

I want to keep believing and I hope our club does too.

The way I view it is that part of the reason Cox hasn’t been forced straight back in is the fact that but for his injury he’d have been likely dropped on form anyway. He’s certainly not likely to tip the result this weekend first up.

We were never going to rush back both a potentially underdone McStay, and Cox, of all players. He’ll be better off for the run in the VFL.

 

[sam_e]

Any chance Lipinski can pull his finger out this week?
Non existent last week.
Not really enamoured with the side tbh, if we scrape in it will be by usual 1- 6 points..

agree with Lipinski call ..very downhill

pleased we finally have some tall'er forward targets (with emphasis on the 's')
_McStay + Kreuger
_reckon JDG will play more mins forward (rather than on-ball, given struggles & lack of power from groin issues)
_Reef may also be in the 22 with an express role to play on Sicily (if he plays defence) ..if not Reef, then WHE

unfortunately, also reckon we'll struggle to match the hawthorn run / spread & leg-speed all over the ground

for mine, they could open us up badly & put some distance on the score-board

we're not only the oldest team in the comp but we're building into one of the slower outfits:

_Lippa
_Pendles
_Sidey
_Long
_Sullivan
_Howe
+
_Frampton (Emerg.)
_Macrae (Emerg.)
_Bytel (Emerg.)
_Dean (albeit not playing)


lack of leg speed hurts you in trying to:
_break-even in Centre Bounce
_close space, pressure & tackle
_play zone defence & moving back or forward to roll the zone

 

[sr36]

Markov lucky to survive, last chance I would have thought.

There's no one else. Our VFL back flankers aren't ready and the vfl mids are not suited to back flank.

 

[jmac70]

agree with Lipinski call ..very downhill

pleased we finally will have some tall'er forward targets (with emphasis on the 's')
_McStay + Kreuger
_reckon JDG will play more mins forward (rather than on-ball, given struggles & lack of power from groin issues)
_Reef may also be in the 22 with an express role to play on Sicily (if he plays defence) ..if not Reef, then WHE

unfortunately, also reckon we'll struggle to match the hawthorn run / spread & leg-speed all over the ground

for mine, they could open us up badly & put some distance on the score-board

we're not only the oldest team in the comp but we're building into one of the slower outfits:

_Lippa
_Pendles
_Sidey
_Long
_Sullivan
_Howe
+
_Frampton (Emerg.)
_Macrae (Emerg.)
_Bytel (Emerg.)
_Dean (albeit not playing)


lack of leg speed hurts you & contributes:
_when you get burnt in Centre Bounce
_in trying to close space, pressure & tackle
_in playing zone defence & moving back or forward to roll the zone

This looks like some detailed analysis.

 

[No SPIN]

Dear & Chol.

Dear is the same Height as McStay (195cm) but 12kg lighter. He’s not an imposing size.

 

[jathanas]

Frampton dropped?!

Seriously?

2024 Selection continues to be as messy as our season

It's sensible.

Frampton was bog-ordinary against Geelong.

D-Mac coming in lets Howe move back to the defence.

 

[Maggie5]

There's no one else. Our VFL back flankers aren't ready and the vfl mids are not suited to back flank.

Move Howe back and Reef/Sullivan forward and include Finn in team out Markov?

 

[Aussie pie]

Not going to win, I don’t like the side. My opinion, if you disagree that’s fine but I don’t need the abuse for saying we won’t win.
Not the outs I expected and that’s my reason.

 

[jmac70]

Move Howe back and Reef/Sullivan forward and include Finn in team out Markov?

I think Howe will end up playing back.
Markov gives us some speed.

 

[jmac70]

Not going to win, I don’t like the side. My opinion, if you disagree that’s fine but I don’t need the abuse for saying we won’t win.
Not the outs I expected and that’s my reason.

 

[manicpie]

Not going to win, I don’t like the side. My opinion, if you disagree that’s fine but I don’t need the abuse for saying we won’t win.
Not the outs I expected and that’s my reason.

Never say Never. I have a feeling we'll win this

 

[Maggie5]

I think Howe will end up playing back.

I hope so.

Markov gives us some speed.

I am more than over his half attempts at tackling, playing wide of his opponent and miskicks/handballs.

He is at times been a liability, just putting more pressure on our back six.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Dear is the same Height as McStay (195cm) but 12kg lighter. He’s not an imposing size.

I didn't say he was, but he's one of their 2 taller forwards which was what I was responding too.

 

[jmac70]

I hope so.

I am more than over his half attempts at tackling, playing wide of his opponent and miskicks/handballs.

He is at times been a liability, just putting more pressure on our back six.

Please don’t use the ‘L’ word.