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The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam.
Khayamm was an astronomer, astrologer, physician, philosopher, and mathematician: he made outstanding contributions in algebra. His poetry is better known in the West than any other non-Western poet.
Some great research has been added to the Tamam Shud thread on the unknown man found on Somerton Beach, Adelaide that may not apply to SM and I think needs it's own thread.
Can start with the Jewish Marshall brothers and their father who fled to Perth from Singapore at the start of WW2, and apparently set up a men's clothing store in Perth.
"George" Joseph Saul Haim Marshall travelled often to Sydney with his job and was found dead in Ashton Park, Mosman, on a ledge of rock over-looking Taylor Bay on the 3rd June 1945. His Hebrew name was Yosef Chaim Saul ben Yisroel and his brother David Saul Marshall, became Singapore’s first Chief Minister after WW2.
A copy of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam was said to be found lying on his chest.
The book had a pencil mark against the lines quatrain XXIII:
Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too Into the dust descend;
Dust into dust, and under dust to lie.
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer and-sans end.
Strangely his time of death was estimated to be two weeks earlier and his was badly decomposed. He was lying on a newspaper with the date. The winter weather had been wet and windy weather and animals had been feasting on his body.
Besides the Rubaiyat and suspected suicide, the other strange connection to the Somerton Man was that his head and shoulders were propped up on the large flat rock looking over the water at Taylor Bay in Sydney. He was found to have died from poisoning.
He was facing due East and Somerton Man was facing due west looking over the water at Glenelg beach when discovered.
https://anemptyglass.fandom.com/wiki/Joseph_(George)_Saul_Haim_Marshall (comments are interesting.
From Gordan
Not quite on this thread but related to the Marshall case.
Here's the Verse 23 from the Methuen 7th edition which seems to have been proven not to be a false imprint. From what I understand the contents of each edition are identical in terms of the verses they contain. Some carry adverts and some carry additional commentary.
Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too Into the dust descend;
Dust into dust, and under dust to lie.
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer and-sans end.
However, in a Methuen 5th edition, that same verse is verse 24 and not 23. It seems that there is an additional verse somewhere. The 5th edition is a PDF and there are a few pages missing, here's quite a lengthy commentary upfront so you will need to get around pages 111 and 112 to see the relevant verses. I am not sure what effect this has, I had not heard it mentioned before but it may be a known issue nonetheless. If anyone has any information on the apparent difference I would certainly appreciate it if you could let me know.
Is it possible to bring the posts on other codes and spies of the era to this thread?
Danetta Code posted by Gordon and other possible posts to bring across.
Khayamm was an astronomer, astrologer, physician, philosopher, and mathematician: he made outstanding contributions in algebra. His poetry is better known in the West than any other non-Western poet.
Some great research has been added to the Tamam Shud thread on the unknown man found on Somerton Beach, Adelaide that may not apply to SM and I think needs it's own thread.
Can start with the Jewish Marshall brothers and their father who fled to Perth from Singapore at the start of WW2, and apparently set up a men's clothing store in Perth.
"George" Joseph Saul Haim Marshall travelled often to Sydney with his job and was found dead in Ashton Park, Mosman, on a ledge of rock over-looking Taylor Bay on the 3rd June 1945. His Hebrew name was Yosef Chaim Saul ben Yisroel and his brother David Saul Marshall, became Singapore’s first Chief Minister after WW2.
A copy of the Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam was said to be found lying on his chest.
The book had a pencil mark against the lines quatrain XXIII:
Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too Into the dust descend;
Dust into dust, and under dust to lie.
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer and-sans end.
Strangely his time of death was estimated to be two weeks earlier and his was badly decomposed. He was lying on a newspaper with the date. The winter weather had been wet and windy weather and animals had been feasting on his body.
Besides the Rubaiyat and suspected suicide, the other strange connection to the Somerton Man was that his head and shoulders were propped up on the large flat rock looking over the water at Taylor Bay in Sydney. He was found to have died from poisoning.
He was facing due East and Somerton Man was facing due west looking over the water at Glenelg beach when discovered.
https://anemptyglass.fandom.com/wiki/Joseph_(George)_Saul_Haim_Marshall (comments are interesting.
From Gordan
Not quite on this thread but related to the Marshall case.
Here's the Verse 23 from the Methuen 7th edition which seems to have been proven not to be a false imprint. From what I understand the contents of each edition are identical in terms of the verses they contain. Some carry adverts and some carry additional commentary.
Ah make the most of what we yet may spend,
Before we too Into the dust descend;
Dust into dust, and under dust to lie.
Sans wine, sans song, sans singer and-sans end.
However, in a Methuen 5th edition, that same verse is verse 24 and not 23. It seems that there is an additional verse somewhere. The 5th edition is a PDF and there are a few pages missing, here's quite a lengthy commentary upfront so you will need to get around pages 111 and 112 to see the relevant verses. I am not sure what effect this has, I had not heard it mentioned before but it may be a known issue nonetheless. If anyone has any information on the apparent difference I would certainly appreciate it if you could let me know.
Is it possible to bring the posts on other codes and spies of the era to this thread?
Danetta Code posted by Gordon and other possible posts to bring across.
