Ryder

[Higgs Boson]

As the supplements controversy continued to erupt on Saturday, it also emerged Essendon ruckman Patrick Ryder had a brief meeting at AFL House on Thursday to clarify part of the statement he made when interviewed by ASADA.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/riled-robinson-to-tell-all-on-hird-20130727-2qrac.html#ixzz2aEsVBU5s​

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...all-on-hird-20130727-2qrac.html#ixzz2aEsVBU5s​

Anyone got cliffs on what this is all about?​

I know Ryder seems to have been having a difficult time, but don't know any details​

 

[Shatterpoint]

Heard somewhere that if Essendon get found guilty, he will be leaving, not very happy at the moment is Ryder.

 

[DonsRule]

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Anyone got cliffs on what this is all about?​

I know Ryder seems to have been having a difficult time, but don't know any details​

Were some reports that Paddy's would walk if banned, some that his wife might be at the point of breakdown (that SEN called last night), bot really sure.

 

[Dalphonso]

Were some reports that Paddy's would walk if banned, some that his wife might be at the point of breakdown (that SEN called last night), bot really sure.

Where is he going to walk to? He might be rubbed out for 2 years?

 

[Zerg]

Where is he going to walk to? He might be rubbed out for 2 years?

How about real life.

 

[Jobe Watson]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

 

[LanceRomance]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.
Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

Too soon to talk about it?

 

[Bluesince62]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

If he refused banned/prohibited substances he wouldn't have a problem.
If he has been a F*wit then I have sympathy for the effects on his family. Same as I would for any family affected by a stupid relative.
Do the crime do the time.
Hopefully he has fessed up and dobbed in the instigator and will get time off.

 

[Higgs Boson]

It's sad for the families, but... isn't it always sad for the families whenever shit goes down?

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

All he had to do is say "No .. im not taking pig brain ... calf first milk and bark and AOD.. peps and Thymosin Beta4"

and he would be ok now....

instead he said "OK" and ran Cox and NicNat ragged on the very large oval in the west down last month....

 

[banzai]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

Hasnt Hird taken full responsibility for this saga? So is your anger with him and the club?

 

[FuManchu]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

So I take it Hirds reassurances haven't put him at ease. The players stand to be the real victims here. But for Hird, it seems its all about his reputation

 

[Suma Magic]

Hopefully he didn't break any rules and doesn't get penalised.

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

If players are under this sort of pressure in their home life because of this then the people who caused it have a lot to answer for.

This is the serious side of the issue that goes deeper than a club v club rivalry. These are the real consequences of a series of very bad decisions.

 

[Jobe Watson]

If he refused banned/prohibited substances he wouldn't have a problem.
If he has been a F*wit then I have sympathy for the effects on his family. Same as I would for any family affected by a stupid relative.
Do the crime do the time.
Hopefully he has fessed up and dobbed in the instigator and will get time off.

How can you possibly blame the players for this mess?

 

[ziad]

cue an old warner brothers cartoon of a sinking ship and rats jumping.

essendon need to know they can run but can not hide.

ist like, cheating is real and you get caught and have to do the time.

 

[ziad]

How can you possibly blame the players for this mess?

absolutely responsible for their own actions and well educated on the matter.

 

[Bluesince62]

How can you possibly blame the players for this mess?

Very simply under WADA rules responsibility rests solely with the players.
Who else could be at fault ?
I have it on the authority of more than 50,000 EFC members that Jimmy had nothing to do with it.

 

[FuManchu]

Very simply under WADA rules responsibility rests solely with the players.
Who else could be at fault ?
I have it on the authority of more than 50,000 EFC members that Jimmy had nothing to do with it.

They will blame the players for forcing Hird to make them stronger by any means. Those bastard players!!!!

 

[DonsRule]

If players are under this sort of pressure in their home life because of this then the people who caused it have a lot to answer for.

This is the serious side of the issue that goes deeper than a club v club rivalry. These are the real consequences of a series of very bad decisions.

I agree in part, but the media claim this whole the players are the victims, most can agree, but the non stop reporting of crap for months on end, and them having family friends subjected to it, they have made it worse too.

 

[The_Reaper]

Going through massive family issues right now because of this saga.

Guess that doesn't matter to people though as long as they get their kicks.

Blame the club for that.

 

[crackertiger]

How can Essendon fans possibly defend certain club officials over this?

 

[Jobe Watson]

Very simply under WADA rules responsibility rests solely with the players.
Who else could be at fault ?
I have it on the authority of more than 50,000 EFC members that Jimmy had nothing to do with it.

So when none of these players receive bans, are they still at fault?

When none of these players receive bans, do you think the club still deserve the blame for the vitriol that they have had to have been subjected to? Or did the sensationalist media play a part?

 

[FuManchu]

I agree in part, but the media claim this whole the players are the victims, most can agree, but the non stop reporting of crap for months on end, and them having family friends subjected to it, they have made it worse too.

It was up to Essendon to ensure they weren't put in this position. The club has failed in every facet of duty of care to the players here.

 

[rose jam]

How can you possibly blame the players for this mess?

The rules make it clear it is their fault. Of course we do have sympathy for them, it sucks, but the club culture (the outflow of acceptable standards) has created this.