Certified Legendary Thread Sack Hinkley 13 - Another Crack At This

[El_Scorcho]

Any lingering concern about the AFL banning us from sacking Hinkley was thrown out the window in 2023 when we gave him an extension. If we'd been desperate to sack him but vetoed, we wouldn't have extended him then. It's a total myth that the AFL have ever stopped us from doing it.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Geelong were highly successful in 2007 and 2009 when Hinkley was senior assistant to Mark Thompson.

I'm sure even Ken Hinkley might have been successful if his players were magically bigger, stronger, faster AND had more endurance than everyone else. He'd probably need Bomber and some of the other "specialist" assistants to achieve that though, and they all got banned after the Essendon scandal.

 

[rogerjames]

Not his fault really.



The Board would have let him go to the Gold Coast. But the AFL wanted Hardwick in that role and so were never going to even entertain the idea of Ken moving to the Sunshine State.

My comment was tongue in cheek re Hardwick. Interesting that the Afl don't rate Ken that highly either. Hardwick was burnt out but still favoured.

 

[Us against the rest]

Geelong were highly successful in 2007 and 2009 when Hinkley was senior assistant to Mark Thompson.

Mate, we are going into year 13 he's gone through 3 lists of players and as far as finals goes we have won **** all, it's time for him to go just like other clubs change coaches. If you can't see that you must be a troll.

 

[240volt]

Gold Coast reminds me very much of that Geelong twat that was going on like a broken record at seasons end on this thread.

 

[RossFC]

Port have a 60% win rate under Hinkley with only Geelong and Sydney having higher win rates over that time. Flags are very hard to win as shown by Geelong only winning one flag since Hinkley arrived at Port while Sydney haven't won any flags since Hinkley arrived at Port, even though both Geelong and Sydney have been near the top of the ladder every year since Hinkley arrived at Port.

In my opinion a lot of Port supporters still have the same mentality they had in the SANFL when they were a big fish in a small pond, these days they're a small fish in the big pond which is the national competition. Port have done well to contend as often as they have given the deck is stacked against them in a competition that's biased towards the Eastern States.

Meanwhile we are still in the SANFL. 0 premierships since 2000 and just won our first wooden spoon in 125 years.

 

[SonOfKek]

Despite not going overseas to study and improve himself, Hinkley has taken Port to the top 4 in four of the last five years. Finals performances have been poor though so if he takes Port backwards next year, then it's time to move on and find someone else.

Why don't Port make Hinkley go overseas to study and improve himself? I heard Craig McRae went to Harvard University so he could look to improve. Hinkley could have converted at least one of those top 4 finishes into a premiership if he'd gone overseas to study in the past.

Is.... is this Ken Hinkley?

 

[simba_]

Why don't Port make Hinkley go overseas to study and improve himself? Because he isn't intelligent enough to sit in seminars and take notes and absorb new information that will improve his strategies. He is an old 60 year old man.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Ken still runs that same style that 2007 Geelong did…just don’t know if Port have the talent of that 2007 Cats side (9 AA players across the park including at the time 2 soon to be Brownlow medallist’s) to be as effective when it counts.

He couldn't replicate their jawlines at Port.

 

[Duck Farmer]

Meanwhile we are still in the SANFL. 0 premierships since 2000 and just won our first wooden spoon in 125 years.

It'S nOt ThE sAnFl AnYmOrE !!!!

Great. So can we actually win a premiership then?

 

[Chewy316]

Any lingering concern about the AFL banning us from sacking Hinkley was thrown out the window in 2023 when we gave him an extension. If we'd been desperate to sack him but vetoed, we wouldn't have extended him then. It's a total myth that the AFL have ever stopped us from doing it.

You're conflating a few situations and putting the pieces together of an incomplete puzzle to come up with a full version of events.

Financially the club have not been in a position in 2018, 2019 or 2021 to sack him due to his contractual situation - a making of their own doing.

But in 2022 he had 1 year left on his contract, though depending on how much money the club pushed back of his contract during covid means it may have been more than a year's pay. So the club was not necessarily in a position to pay him out, but they also weren't going to stand in his way if another club wanted him. Essendon did come after him very late on in the process, but by then Ken had already committed to 2023 at Port and so it was never a realistic opportunity.

Any notion that the Club have not sacked him because they were vetoed at the time is false, because they've never even gone to the AFL to request his sacking in the first place.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

Port have a 60% win rate under Hinkley with only Geelong and Sydney having higher win rates over that time. Flags are very hard to win as shown by Geelong only winning one flag since Hinkley arrived at Port while Sydney haven't won any flags since Hinkley arrived at Port, even though both Geelong and Sydney have been near the top of the ladder every year since Hinkley arrived at Port.

In my opinion a lot of Port supporters still have the same mentality they had in the SANFL when they were a big fish in a small pond, these days they're a small fish in the big pond which is the national competition. Port have done well to contend as often as they have given the deck is stacked against them in a competition that's biased towards the Eastern States.

Please remind us all how many Grand Final appearances Sydney and Geelong have had during the same 12 year period? Premierships are hard to come by but you need to be in the GF to have a shot. And if the coach cant get the team there then they get moved on.

Move along.

 

[Scodges]

Port have a 60% win rate under Hinkley with only Geelong and Sydney having higher win rates over that time. Flags are very hard to win as shown by Geelong only winning one flag since Hinkley arrived at Port while Sydney haven't won any flags since Hinkley arrived at Port, even though both Geelong and Sydney have been near the top of the ladder every year since Hinkley arrived at Port.

In my opinion a lot of Port supporters still have the same mentality they had in the SANFL when they were a big fish in a small pond, these days they're a small fish in the big pond which is the national competition. Port have done well to contend as often as they have given the deck is stacked against them in a competition that's biased towards the Eastern States.

Piss off !!


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[Goal Coast]

I'm sure even Ken Hinkley might have been successful if his players were magically bigger, stronger, faster AND had more endurance than everyone else. He'd probably need Bomber and some of the other "specialist" assistants to achieve that though, and they all got banned after the Essendon scandal.

Perhaps Essendon took the fall for Geelong similar to how Diddy took the fall for Jay-Z.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

But in 2022 he had 1 year left on his contract, though depending on how much money the club pushed back of his contract during covid means it may have been more than a year's pay. So the club was not necessarily in a position to pay him out, but they also weren't going to stand in his way if another club wanted him. Essendon did come after him very late on in the process, but by then Ken had already committed to 2023 at Port and so it was never a realistic opportunity.

So we (allegedly) removed the 6-month payout clause while also possibly simultaneously only pushing back his salary payments?

 

[JimmyBC]

Perhaps Essendon took the fall for Geelong similar to how Diddy took the fall for Jay-Z.

Perhaps we are living in a simulation and you never even played with Kenny's nephew.

 

[Papa G]

Gold Coast Taper Worm

By about his third post you could tell it was that fukcwit.

 

[VineValerian]

While watching the preliminary final this year it was very apparent how the players lacked polish with their forward 50 entries and ball movement through the corridor. The players really need to work on their skill execution over summer because we've seen how lack of polish cost them a grand final appearance.

Good point.
Well made!
Astounding logic.

Ummhh.
Now sorry, just a quick question, and maybe I'm just a simpleton and a dunderklumpen, but please humour me and remind me, who takes responsibility at a footy club for developing the players' skills?
It couldn't be the coach and his staff?

Or ............. could it?

 

[Steve Dore]

Gold Coast reminds me very much of that Geelong twat that was going on like a broken record at seasons end on this thread.

As others have pointed out, Goal Coast is Taper.

 

[tribey]

Any lingering concern about the AFL banning us from sacking Hinkley was thrown out the window in 2023 when we gave him an extension. If we'd been desperate to sack him but vetoed, we wouldn't have extended him then. It's a total myth that the AFL have ever stopped us from doing it.

Especially given St Kilda, who have received more special distribution than anyone over the past umpteen years, was permitted to sack Brett Ratten — who is generally considered to be a nice guy footy lifer on par with anyone — not long after they’d actually extended him.

 

[tribey]

While watching the preliminary final this year it was very apparent how the players lacked polish with their forward 50 entries and ball movement through the corridor. The players really need to work on their skill execution over summer because we've seen how lack of polish cost them a grand final appearance.

BREAKING: Port have an issue with their F50 entries

Got any more hot takes from 2013/14?

 

[Goal Coast]

Good point.
Well made!
Astounding logic.

Ummhh.
Now sorry, just a quick question, and maybe I'm just a simpleton and a dunderklumpen, but please humour me and remind me, who takes responsibility at a footy club for developing the players' skills?
It couldn't be the coach and his staff?

Or ............. could it?

Port should send Hinkley to Harvard University so he can self improve and hire some new assistant coaches to reinvigorate the coaching box with fresh ideas, it worked for Hardwick in 2017. If Port fail after this then it's time to move Hinkley on and bring in a new coach.

 

[JimmyBC]

Port should send Hinkley to Harvard University so he can self improve and hire some new assistant coaches to reinvigorate the coaching box with fresh ideas, it worked for Hardwick in 2017. If Port fail after this then it's time to move Hinkley on and bring in a new coach.

How about we send him to Kabul on a one way ticket.

 

[Marmozet]

They want to win a flag in the same way that I want to sleep with Sydney Sweeney.

 

[tribey]

They want to win a flag in the same way that I want to sleep with Sydney Sweeney.

It’s such a ‘nice guys finish last’ approach.

“We’re good people. We work hard. We’ve been doing this so long together.”

Then they seem genuinely shocked when a hungrier, more determined, more serious opponent turns up and doesn't roll out the red carpet.