Opinion Sack Hinkley 4 - Show Him The Door

[JimmyBC]

It will be easy to identify if anything is different next year, I guess it already has been to many but lets shoot a check list.

Drudging style of play

Game style dictated by opposition

Chaos entries & wide entries inside 50 for the lock in.

Limping to the line over crap & developing sides

Poor to slow starts to most games

If any of this shit has set in midway through the year there is no hope of building form or a magic finals switch being any more than blind hope & kidding oneself.

 

[Us against the rest]

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#sackken

Hinkley would have trouble delivering a pizza, let alone a premiership.

 

[Iwish]

I was never a big fan of choco during his time as coach, until 2004, and I probably agreed with Alan scott.
In fact if those saints fans decided to remain in their seats prelim final night we probably would have been talking about choco back then the same way we talking about ken now. But I remember choco taking the criticism he used to get on the chin and not trying to deflect or blaming players like ken has during his tenure.

 

[wannabejack]

You all thought I was a genius 2 weeks ago is the new "you all thought ken was a superhero at 11-4"

No we didn't you campaigners

We needed him to be a genius in the last 2 games of the season!

 

[JimmyBC]

Mickey Mouse wears a Ken Hinkley wrist watch.

 

[PowerBaz]

Mickey Mouse wears a Ken Hinkley wrist watch.

Art imitating life.

 

[dirty2]

More spin from the snake oil salesman.

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Why does Boak and spp look confused as ****

 

[TazD]

Why does Boak and spp look confused as fu**

Have you ever listened to him and not be confused? I know I haven't.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Why does Boak and spp look confused as fu**

Was thinking the same thing.

Boaky looks exactly the same way I do when Ken speaks. Pep looks like he has been photoshopped in somehow.

 

[Contested Marx]

"Work harder, for longer. I love the greyhounds, love 'em. Only 10% hate me. Peps, you focus on the work harder, Trav, you focus on the work longer. Has anyone seen me coke zero? I sometimes wish I never gave away my Ford jacket. Hey, how good are the chips!?"

 

[Us against the rest]

Why does Boak and spp look confused as fu**

I think they have run out of answers just like Hinkley, they are broken and Boak knows no premiership for him

 

[fireboy]

Short and Sharp, Bassett seems to have slipped through un-noticed: Don't think Im the only one who thinks that our forward structure and tactics has been nothing short of a disaster for going on for 3 years ( I think the Carlton game and Geelong final was to some extent an aberration ) falling over the line hides cracks IMO.
If Hinkley has not been able to improve this part of the ground I will join in. Sack Hinkley & Bassett.

 

[StrappingTape]

They are right it's 10%, 10% the other way though. 90% want him gone and can see the blatantly obvious, backing in with more of the same stuff with a review we already know the answer to and now a coach who has come out after that and said he wouldn't have done anything differently anyway. If that's the case he should be sacked this week, he's basically challenging the club to with those comments. When they inevitably do nothing as they have promised to do but review themselves doing absolutely nothing, him getting away with publically saying he'd change nothing AFTER the CEO etc have come out promising a thorough review then re-enforces his entrenched position within the club.

No other club would put up with what we are doing going into next year, no one else would keep going with more of the same but here we are.

 

[GranFormaggi]

I really wish that past players and coaches would come out and say what they really think about what this current crop of muppets are doing to our football club. They are causing irreversable damage to a brand, history and tradition.

I couldn't have put this better myself.

I can't precisely recall the forum I heard it in, but I was pretty close to 2 board members in 2000-2005.

After 3 really disappointing finishes to 2001-3 I understand that the CEO put a lot of heat onto the players efforts in their finals losses.

He had observed them with plenty left in the tank after our finals losses. He let them know that to come off the ground not totally exhausted from effort would not be tolerated and is not Port Adelaide.

The CEO was obviously used to the high standards of expectation at the club and therefore was a link to the historically successful teams through 77, 79-81..but had also known failure and a pretty long drought.

I also have no time for this "it's hard to win premierships in the AFL" shite.

Relative to the standard of clubs in the SANFL, it was difficult to win them there too. I bet Glenelg and Sturt and South and West and all those other also rans think it was tough to win them.

If we don't believe we can become, nor demand to be, the most successful AFL club of the next 20, 30, 50 years......we won't be. Why the fcuk can't we be the Hawthorn of the next 30 years.

The mindset that being a successful club is the only thing that entirety of the PAFC accepts is a non negotiatiable to me as a supporter and it should be for everyone else too.

That doesn't mean we will always win, but it should mean we never dish up the sh1t we served up on Saturday night.

If the players and coaches are offended by the scrutiny a demanding supporter base are applying, if it is hotter than the introspection they are undertaking themselves, then they are exactly the no-hopers Foster was talking about.

We are at the moment, totally more likely to become the St Kilda of the next 100 years with the current stewardship.

 

[HinkleysHeroes]

More spin from the snake oil salesman.

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Boak looks confused and SPP is like WTF

 

[Coobk001]

Short and Sharp, Bassett seems to have slipped through un-noticed: Don't think Im the only one who thinks that our forward structure and tactics has been nothing short of a disaster for going on for 3 years ( I think the Carlton game and Geelong final was to some extent an aberration ) falling over the line hides cracks IMO.
If Hinkley has not been able to improve this part of the ground I will join in. Sack Hinkley & Bassett.

3 years?

If it wasn't for Wingard and Schulz kicking them from all angles, and Robbie Grays brilliance, our issues wouldve been glaring even in our 2013-2014 peak.

We've been playing to chaotic forward entires since Hinkley rocked up.

 

[Lagooner]

Sad but not surprised to see that sort of behaviour directed at you by Ken Oaff, Alyx. The guy is an unhinged nutjob. For the record, he actually called for Ken's head towards the end of the 2019 season if we didn't make the finals. He ended up deleting the post, but not before I screenshot it.

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Season has gone “pear shaped” lol. That’s absolutely perfect.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I was never a big fan of choco during his time as coach, until 2004, and I probably agreed with Alan scott.
In fact if those saints fans decided to remain in their seats prelim final night we probably would have been talking about choco back then the same way we talking about ken now. But I remember choco taking the criticism he used to get on the chin and not trying to deflect or blaming players like ken has during his tenure.

Choco is more extreme in basically every facet. His team was further ahead of its competition, so his failures were arguably worse, but then he managed to well and truly sort them out mentally for 2004.

As you say, Choco at least seemed to acknowledge our failures and changed things. Paxman delisted after playing every game in 2003. Moving Chad from the forwardline to defence to focus on intercept marking. Choco didn't present as a bumbling idiot who didn't understand the game well enough to make the required changes.

 

[Launchpad McQuack]

I also have no time for this "it's hard to win premierships in the AFL" sh*te.

The messaging coming out of the head coach/club of late is more "it's too hard to win premierships in the AFL".

 

[Steve Dore]

More spin from the snake oil salesman.

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Going by what others have posted about the 5AA interview this is just a rehash of that. Some of these quotes from Hinkley have already been mentioned from the radio interview.

".. I don’t hear that (the white noise) … I see 62,000 members of our football club and I see our club exceeding expectations in a whole lot of areas. .. there are 10 per cent that are always in the nonbelievers’ part ..."

Any criticism is just white noise. How has he exceeded expectations in a club that exists to win premierships?
Members critical of his performance are "non-believers". Does the club honestly believe that members who want us to do better are non-believers?
As far as the club is concerned "true believers" are happy clapping Kool-Aid drinkers.

"... (I was) a genius coach two weeks ago ..."

Hinkley and Koch and the board may have thought he was a genius two weeks ago. That probably explains why he failed to get the team prepared for the Prelim Final. Too busy drinking his own bath water.

#sackhickey

 

[TeeKray]

I've never really subscribed to the Geelong Danksy juice conspiracy theory but when you consider they were coached by an ice addict with this guy as 2IC, gee whiz ...

 

[Steve Dore]

The messaging coming out of the head coach/club of late is more "it's too hard to win premierships in the AFL".

This whole "we're just a poor little battler club from Alberton" and "it's not the SANFL now" schtick is pathetic from the club.

The club trying to suggest that we are an SNAFL level club with semi-professional players plucked from our suburban and country recruiting zones as a reason for our failures at AFL level is ingenuous to say the least.

We are competing in the AFL.
We have a list of AFL standard players.
We have access to draft and trade for AFL standard players.
We have similar resources and facilities to the other AFL clubs.

What we are lacking is an AFL standard coach.

 

[Lagooner]

Any criticism is just white noise. How has he exceeded expectations in a club that exists to win premierships?
Members critical of his performance are "non-believers". Does the club honestly believe that members who want us to do better are non-believers?

I believe Ken. Just not in you.

 

[PortWTF]

If Port people are split into "true-believers" and "non-believers", then I know where I would rather be. Instead of blind faith in Ken and those in charge, I prefer to look at the body of evidence we have before us. And that evidence points to us being a very ordinary version of the Port Adelaide Football Club, even when accounting for the number of teams we compete against having doubled.

 

[bomberclifford]

Why does Boak and spp look confused as fu**