Roast Sack Horse

[The King!]

Need a change need a fresh look
And some personnel changes …i know we Will never do it but I’d love to see em axe horse ,not just because of the grand final losses but more because we just need a fresh set of eyes on it I think the players could do with a different perspective gunna b so hard to bounce back from this new coach doesn’t have that baggage and can just get on with straight up

I'd prefer we didn't sack Horse , I would just like to see him step aside or commit to a succession plan, or the footy department have a review .

But yeah he has had a long time, no coach has a worse Grand final record for 4 or more grannies.

You don't want to go through coaches but to put the amount of time Horse has been in the job every other club has had the following amount of coaches and flags (not counting fill ins

Adelaide 5 - 0
Brisbane 3 - 1
Carlton 5- 0
Collingwood 3 - 1
Essendon 5- 0
Fremantle 3- 0
Geelong 1- 1
Gws 3-0
gold coast 4-0
Hawthorn 2-3
Melbourne 4-1
North 4-0
Port 2-0
Richmond 2-3
Stkilda 4-0
Western Bulldogs 3-1
West Coast 2-1

What's that show maybe heck all, but only one side kept one coach during all of this and they did win a flag in that time. Every other club has at least looked to a fresh voice in this time even those with a flag.

I guess my point is even the best clash has an expiry date

 

[The King!]

Do you think Longmire can win another flag? He’s done everything right until the grand final.

Beat Giants in a final
Beat Power after 8 losses
Didn’t play an injured Mills
Plays McDonald

Take responsibility for grand final loss

 

[The Mares Leg]

Play an injured Heeney

 

[The Mares Leg]

So if Horse is out of ideas, what does this say about Cox? A “yes man”? No idea?

 

[WillHayward]

I don't expect to win the flag every year.
But if you make the GF at least turn up and compete

 

[crows dude]

I swap you Nicks for Horse

 

[TheMase]

Do you think Longmire can win another flag? He’s done everything right until the grand final.

Beat Giants in a final
Beat Power after 8 losses
Didn’t play an injured Mills
Plays McDonald

Possibly, yeah, though I think we might have the balance of the team out a bit.

But it also might be time to start the transition to another coach, in a methodical way. Not completely sure yet.

 

[Kapers]

I do have a question for people defending Horse, and this is an actual question, not meant to be harsh.
How many grand final beltings would convince you that Longmire isn't the coach?
100% genuine question, I'm interested to see what people.

 

[The King!]

Good. Put the heat on him. Go your hardest.

The media called him Bill Bilichick the other day

 

[The King!]

Possibly, yeah, though I think we might have the balance of the team out a bit.

But it also might be time to start the transition to another coach, in a methodical way. Not completely sure yet.

A review may well find Horse is 100% the right man but he needs to do X differently or have X Support

 

[Superstar swan]

I do have a question for people defending Horse, and this is an actual question, not meant to be harsh.
How many grand final beltings would convince you that Longmire isn't the coach?
100% genuine question, I'm interested to see what people.

Excellent post

 

[MarkP]

I don't expect to win the flag every year.
But if you make the GF at least turn up and compete

Yep.

That is the whole issue.

 

[TheMase]

A review may well find Horse is 100% the right man but he needs to do X differently or have X Support

Yes and that should happen I reckon.

 

[MR0808]

Just got sent this from a mate. What's the difference between John Longmire and Ross Lyons? Buddy had the yips in 2012

 

[TheMase]

I do have a question for people defending Horse, and this is an actual question, not meant to be harsh.
How many grand final beltings would convince you that Longmire isn't the coach?
100% genuine question, I'm interested to see what people.

Just don’t think knee jerk reactions are particularly helpful for club harmony. Particularly so for a long term coach, who it seems is well endeared to his players, who has been a huge part of the most successful era of Swans teams in our history.

Dumping one level, let alone up to three levels of management (as some have suggested) in the emotion of it all is not how successful organisations operate.

If he is to go, and I accept that may be the case, then it should be done via a transition in 2025 in a professional manner as he starts to step back and see out his contract (handing more responsibility to Cox or whomever).

 

[Punts]

I do think we need outsiders in the box.

I don’t like that Macca etc etc become assistants

 

[SM]

Do you think Longmire can win another flag? He’s done everything right until the grand final.

Beat Giants in a final
Beat Power after 8 losses
Didn’t play an injured Mills
Plays McDonald

Logan playing wasn't the difference in the result.

We can cling to reasons why we lost but all factors were in our favour other than mental.

 

[SM]

Play an injured Heeney

Brisbane played an injured Neale. The heeney injury excuse is just that.

 

[Dan87]

It's a lot of responsibility for one person and even blokes like Horse have a limit.

Has started talking about his sleep

Odds on a handover commences imo

He deserved better but one last tilt next year

 

[MR0808]

Do we need to remove the 'Roast' tag on this thread?

 

[Edmund hunt]

I'm not normally one to say this but he has to go. It's like we haven't learnt anything during any of the grannies. Doing the same thing but expecting different results.

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[MR0808]

 

[Voice of the G]

Keep Horse but if you all want him sacked Stuart Dew

Stuart Dew

Age

45

Ht

183cm

Wt

99kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.1

3star

K

9.1

4star

HB

4.0

3star

M

2.9

3star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

12.2

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

1.8

4star

is the ideal replacement.

 

[Jack2Jack]

Have we overcorrected the playing style / list build ? It seems the weakness of the 12-16 era sides are the strengths of the current one. Now some of the strengths of the 12-16 sides are the weaknesses of the current one.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Keep Horse but if you all want him sacked Stuart Dew is the ideal replacement.

Wasn’t Dew the midfield coach during 2014?