The big fella has his name on the same B&F honour board as Russell Ebert & Geof Motley.
It's ok to admit we suck at developing talls.
You can only lead a horse to water
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The big fella has his name on the same B&F honour board as Russell Ebert & Geof Motley.
It's ok to admit we suck at developing talls.
Ladhams played for us basically every week. He was backed in at the selection table. Not even close to the same situation.
Hayes came into the AFL as the consensus most talented ruckman in his draft, and up until two years ago was viewed by just about everyone as our future #1 ruck for the next decade. But now he's damaged goods. And our mismanagement is what damaged him.
If I didn't know any better I wouldn't want a ruckman at my club who wasn't getting a game over a washed Scott Lycett and an all-time spud like Brynn Teakle either. But it turns out that 'wasn't getting a game' doesn't always mean 'shouldn't have been getting a game'. Especially not at Ken Hinkley's Port Adelaide.
Because one is not anywhere like the others, hayes is a spud who beat Garner and Lienert for the minor placings. You trying to put Hayes up with Ebert and Motley is laughable.Why?
He's a Port Adelaide Football Club best and fairest winner he's on the honour board is he not?Because one is not anywhere like the others, hayes is a spud who beat Garner and Lienert for the minor placings. You trying to put Hayes up with Ebert and Motley is laughable.
Well derrHe's a Port Adelaide Football Club best and fairest winner he's on the honour board is he not?
Well derr
He is not worthy of being mentioned alongside greats like Ebert and Motley, agreed?
With a MASSIVE *If you're making a list of Port Adelaide B&F winners he is. He won one.
With a MASSIVE *
Was he as good as Ebert and Motley, yes or no?Is he on the honour board or not?
Was he as good as Ebert and Motley, yes or no?
If you're making a list of Port Adelaide B&F winners he is. He won one.
Always good to hear your thoughts on judging young tall talent, guy who shat on Todd Marshall for five years.Hayes mismanaged himself you turnip. Was never good enough at the level required for that reason. Glad he’s gone. You were wrong.
Totally agree, poor old hayesy would be at the extreme southern end.We have 140 odd best and fairest winners who weren't as good as Ebert. Is he on the board or not?
It is bizarre our entire ruck division this year at AFL level will be two mature trade-ins, our second banana KPD is another mature trade-in to go alongside Aliir who was another mature trade-in & we'll still bomb it long to Chuck the mature GCS trade-in. Our only glimmers of positive tall development light from the draft in the last umpteen years are Toddy & Lord.The Hayes slander is bizarre to me. How you could have watched us fumble the bag with tall development so comprehensively over the last decade and STILL want to blame players is crazy.
The only best 22 tall on our list that we drafted and developed is Todd Marshall.
It's not the players, guys.
It is bizarre our entire ruck division this year at AFL level will be two mature trade-ins, our second banana KPD is another mature trade-in to go alongside Aliir who was another mature trade-in & we'll still bomb it long to Chuck the mature GCS trade-in. Our only glimmers of positive tall development light from the draft in the last umpteen years are Toddy & Lord.
Make a list of Port Adelaide B&NF winners ranked from best to worst and tell me where he ranks
The big fella has his name on the same B&F honour board as Russell Ebert & Geof Motley.
It's ok to admit we suck at developing talls.
Always good to hear your thoughts on judging young tall talent, guy who shat on Todd Marshall for five years.
Always good to hear your thoughts on judging young tall talent, guy who shat on Todd Marshall for five years.
It’s called clutching at straws, trying desperately to twist it somehow to justify there agenda.Can you share with us who came 2nd and 3rd to hayes, Ebert and Motley (pick any year for multiple time winners).
Didn’t you know Lord will be delisted at years end according to, the names have been changed to protect the guilty (Go Power) we will call him.I could dig up plenty of posts from you suggesting Lord was rubbish before he was given an opportunity, whereas Marshall was rubbish despite endless opportunities.
This isn't the insult you think it is. Hayes absolutely deserved his B&F in 2021 and showed plenty of talent that our coaches elected to squander.
Your forgetting Nick Moore who just won by one vote from the up and coming Trent Dumont.No doubt. He joins the illustrious company of greats like Cam Sutcliffe, Will Snelling, Russell Ebert and Jack Trengove
Up there with Cam Sutcliffe and Nick Moore.We have 140 odd best and fairest winners who weren't as good as Ebert. Is he on the board or not?