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If that is the case it absolutely needs to be changed!You are spot on, there is no distinction between winners after and before our AFL side.
definitely needs changing.
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If that is the case it absolutely needs to be changed!You are spot on, there is no distinction between winners after and before our AFL side.
definitely needs changing.
Hayes biggest weakness was always that our ******ed coaches had a vendetta against him.Just want to say, I told you that the two rucks we picked up aren't really any better than Hayes
This is the thing. I really liked the Sweet pickup. Cost us absolutely nothing and a good player to have on the list. The Soldo one was an abysmal move given we’d already gotten sweet (who is as good as him basically) and had to fork out some serious capital for a 28…? year old with a record of big injuries. Moronic list management.Just want to say, I told you that the two rucks we picked up aren't really any better than Hayes
If Soldo is fit he is well above Sweet.This is the thing. I really liked the Sweet pickup. Cost us absolutely nothing and a good player to have on the list. The Soldo one was an abysmal move given we’d already gotten sweet (who is as good as him basically) and had to fork out some serious capital for a 28…? year old with a record of big injuries. Moronic list management.
He’s not THAT much better though. Especially not worth what we gave up for him.If Soldo is fit he is well above Sweet.
Sadly injuries again and again are holding him back.
Teakle was playing okay for North today. He just isn't a full time ruck and isn't dominant enough to be a kpf. Our development of talls is woeful which means we trade like last year out of desperation.
If we'd just played Hayes every time he was the most appropriate ruckman to be selected, he'd have developed AFL level match fitness.
Then even if he went, we'd have been able to trade him for some decent return.
How has picking Finlayson and Teakle all those times gone for us? Our coaches are ****ing idiots. If they want to blame the list for even a second they can blame their own disastrous inability to develop talls.
Some athletes can't increase their fitness
Teakle only ever played 6 games. It might feel like 40 but it wasn't.
But our coaches are still ****ing idiots. That can't be disputed.
Carn, hayes is currently playing for cheltenham in the Bendigo Bank division (whatever that is) and has managed to get in the besties just once from his four games there - he just isn't a very good footballer contrary to some weird BF group think.I don't believe for a second that Sam Hayes fitness had capped out.
Match fitness, especially as a ruckman at AFL level, is a different sort of fitness. But it's a wider problem at the club. We can't develop talls. There is always an excuse as to why they don't come on.
Carn, hayes is currently playing for cheltenham in the Bendigo Bank division (whatever that is) and has managed to get in the besties just once from his four games there - he just isn't a very good footballer contrary to some weird BF group think.
Just admit he wasn't up to it and move on. He obviously slid on draft night for a reason and the reality is we have spent most of our earlier picks on smaller players although under the Sydney system Ladhams is now a proven A grader!!Yeah yeah yeah, it's always the same. Our tall players who don't come on "just aren't very good footballers" despite showing enough to get a large portion of the supporter base excited about their potential. In Hayes case despite playing some good games in the ruck at AFL level.
Development matters. If you **** up the development of your players, they fall a long way short of their potential. We're not just unlucky.
This is the thing, we wait for them to be plug and play footballers. Marshall and Lord the exception to the rule, Scully and Visintini should be backed in from the minute Doughnuts is arsed.Yeah yeah yeah, it's always the same. Our tall players who don't come on "just aren't very good footballers" despite showing enough to get a large portion of the supporter base excited about their potential. In Hayes case despite playing some good games in the ruck at AFL level.
Development matters. If you **** up the development of your players, they fall a long way short of their potential. We're not just unlucky.
This is the thing, we wait for them to be plug and play footballers. Marshall and Lord the exception to the rule, Scully and Visintini should be backed in from the minute Doughnuts is arsed.
Hayes might have chalked up 20-25 games total. Hardly enough to establish himself or build an AFL ready tank/body.If we'd just played Hayes every time he was the most appropriate ruckman to be selected, he'd have developed AFL level match fitness.
Then even if he went, we'd have been able to trade him for some decent return.
How has picking Finlayson and Teakle all those times gone for us? Our coaches are ****ing idiots. If they want to blame the list for even a second they can blame their own disastrous inability to develop talls.
As to being worthy of a trade - Nyoun, Fullarton both got traded without playing a single game. Hayes had the same amount of exposed form as Sweet.
Two separate issues.Just on this part, the rest of the AFL world watched us with the worst ruck division in the league play part timers and Brynn Teakle ahead of Hayes.
That absolutely effects the willingness of other clubs to pick him up. Port might be wrong but why waste a list spot on a guy that couldn't even get a game for Port ahead of Finlayson?
Not to mention with the sort of development he'd get at 17 other clubs, he'd have been a better player at AFL level.
Apart from 1 good season from Lobbe before he fell off a cliff, we haven't developed a ruckman to AFL standard in 20 years. Maybe Hayes was at fault but if so, are we just really unlucky? Or is there something systemic going on with how we develop talls?
We are far, far worse than average.As to port’s development of talls, I would think we are average in the AFL. We should be better than that. However there are lots of factors.